Criminal collusion?

Ishmael

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How did we end up with so many illegals, a great number of them minors, arriving on our Southern border in such a short window of time? Especially considering that most of them are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. How did they make it from Mexico's southern border, one of the most secure in the Western Hemisphere, all the way to our border, a distance of approx. 2000 miles? This could not have occurred without the full knowledge and help of the Mexican government. It's tantamount to our rounding up all of our undesirables and dumping them at the Canadian border.

And how could our government not have known what was afoot? Perhaps the NSA was overwhelmed with spying on its own citizens?

This is NOT all the result of a coincidence.

Ishmael
 
Definitely a conspiracy, Ish.

And if it's a conspiracy, by definition that means President Obama was personally involved.

Better write your congressman....you live in "Crazy Eyes" Bachmann's district now, right? And urge her to file articles of impeachment....just in case.
 
How did we end up with so many illegals, a great number of them minors, arriving on our Southern border in such a short window of time? Especially considering that most of them are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. How did they make it from Mexico's southern border, one of the most secure in the Western Hemisphere, all the way to our border, a distance of approx. 2000 miles? This could not have occurred without the full knowledge and help of the Mexican government. It's tantamount to our rounding up all of our undesirables and dumping them at the Canadian border.

And how could our government not have known what was afoot? Perhaps the NSA was overwhelmed with spying on its own citizens?

This is NOT all the result of a coincidence.

Ishmael

Notice yet how the overt narco violence has taken a huge downturn almost all of a sudden?

The new government understands it cannot defeat them, so it has comprised with them: cool your jets with all the horrific murders and we'll turn more of a blind eye to your trafficking...

...you pay the narco rate of passage, you are guaranteed to at least get to the US border. The Mexican government has absolutely no interest in interceding, and it's the rare local government official in Mexico today who even fantasizes about taking a stand against the narcos.
 
In Obama's zeal to create more democrat voters, his total disregard for trying to control our southern border has created what might become a humanitarian disaster. Lets see how he blames this mess on somebody else. Community organizing at its best.
 
In Obama's zeal to create more democrat voters, his total disregard for trying to control our southern border has created what might become a humanitarian disaster. Lets see how he blames this mess on somebody else. Community organizing at its best.

Yer right, gol'durnnit.

Romney woulda known what to do. Romney woulda taken care of those damm illegal basterds.

We shouldofa elected a president with a ruthless, uncaring, plutocratic backbone who doesn't flinch at wiping undesirables and lesser brownskins off the map, not this milquetoast liberal who....cares about people! Ugh!
 
Yer right, gol'durnnit.

Romney woulda known what to do. Romney woulda taken care of those damm illegal basterds.

We shouldofa elected a president with a ruthless, uncaring, plutocratic backbone who doesn't flinch at wiping undesirables and lesser brownskins off the map, not this milquetoast liberal who....cares about people! Ugh!

cuse me buddy, but Romney isnt the president, where the hell ya been the last five years? At least try to keep up with current events.
 
How did we end up with so many illegals, a great number of them minors, arriving on our Southern border in such a short window of time? Especially considering that most of them are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. How did they make it from Mexico's southern border, one of the most secure in the Western Hemisphere, all the way to our border, a distance of approx. 2000 miles? This could not have occurred without the full knowledge and help of the Mexican government. It's tantamount to our rounding up all of our undesirables and dumping them at the Canadian border.

And how could our government not have known what was afoot? Perhaps the NSA was overwhelmed with spying on its own citizens?

This is NOT all the result of a coincidence.

Ishmael

Yeah!!! They should deal with those undesirables the AMERICAN way and lock 'em all up under the banner of a fallacious war on drugs while private companies who contract to prisons line their pockets! CAPITALISM! Or ship them off to fight a fallacious war in the name of democracy! FREEDOM!

One question: do any of the concerned citizens in here have any actual statistics regarding this supposed surge of gal-durned illegals, hell-bent on stealing our jobs and wimminz? Or did you just like, see a brown person this morning and freak out?
 
Funny, isn't it, that a conservative PAC called American Principles in Action ran ads during the 2012 elections, which were targeted towards Latinos in Nevada, explaining how Obama was screwing over Hispanics by deporting more illegals than any previous administration...

This is a clip from CNN which shows the ad in total and confirms the numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9yTTawerM

Here's a link to Politifact which also confirms the numbers:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/

But I suppose there's some new information that refutes all that.

Here's a link to a Washington Post article explaining how the numbers can be conflated according to what sort of spin one wants to attach to the numbers:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...amned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

Kinda makes it hard to take the histrionics on this particular subject, without taking a cardiac inducing sized grain of salt.

Just sayin'...
 
How did we end up with so many illegals, a great number of them minors, arriving on our Southern border in such a short window of time? Especially considering that most of them are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. How did they make it from Mexico's southern border, one of the most secure in the Western Hemisphere, all the way to our border, a distance of approx. 2000 miles? This could not have occurred without the full knowledge and help of the Mexican government. It's tantamount to our rounding up all of our undesirables and dumping them at the Canadian border.

And how could our government not have known what was afoot? Perhaps the NSA was overwhelmed with spying on its own citizens?

This is NOT all the result of a coincidence.

Ishmael

Could they be flying in on commercial aircraft? Coming in legally & overstaying their visa?
 
Yeah!!! They should deal with those undesirables the AMERICAN way and lock 'em all up under the banner of a fallacious war on drugs while private companies who contract to prisons line their pockets! CAPITALISM! Or ship them off to fight a fallacious war in the name of democracy! FREEDOM!

One question: do any of the concerned citizens in here have any actual statistics regarding this supposed surge of gal-durned illegals, hell-bent on stealing our jobs and wimminz? Or did you just like, see a brown person this morning and freak out?

Since you asked, sort of, here is an article on the waves of illegals coming across the Texas border overwhelming the Texas ICE facilities. The feds have been bring busloads from Texas to Phoenix and simply dropping them off at the bus stations, leaving them on their own.

The children (under 18yo.) who have been caught have filled the Texas facilities and are being shipped to Nogales AZ, the feds recently asked the state of Arizona to provide the children with food, medicine and clothing.

http://www.cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=42799

In the last week ICE has dumped a thousand illegals in Phoenix, they mostly do not speak English, have no money, do not know anyone here and maybe not even in the entire U.S. The only clothing they have is what they brought with them if ICE did not confiscate it when they were arrested. This dumping of illegals has been going on for a couple of months now.

The governor of Arizona has asked the feds to stop and and the feds basically told her to get fucked, we brought them Texas to your state and they are your problem.

While I very much doubt you'll apologize you damn sure should. Reading a newspaper on occasion might be helpful in keeping up on what is happening in this country.
 
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The numbers are staggering...

...in the last 6 and a half months - October 1, 2013 thru May 17, 2014 - the Border Patrol has arrested more than 148,000 illegal immigrants, just in the Rio Grande Valley, Texas, Sector alone.

Traditionally, this Sector has ranked fourth in number of arrests, but the dramatically increased numbers are shooting it up the chart. In the week of May 11-17, the Sector arrested an average of 1,091 illegal immigrants each day.

If that isn't shocking enough, just consider that the vast majority of immigrants who illegally cross the border do not get caught. Really, consider that: if 300,000 illegal immigrants are being arrested in a year, history says at least another 600,000 make it across without being detained just in the Rio Grande Valley Sector alone. A conservative estimate utilizing those stats reveals that somewhere between 1 million to 2 million illegal immigrants are entering the nation yearly.

It's getting so out-of-hand again that a San Antonio Air Force base is once more being used to house illegal immigrant children - as many as 1 friggin' thousand of the young ones.

All the while, keep foremost in mind that the Mexican cartels mostly own the illegal crossing business...

...their people either escort the immigrants illegally across at a cost, or other smugglers must pay a tax per each head they herd across.

The stories of local, state, and fed people being arrested for doing the work of cartels on this side of the border is filling south Texas newspaper columns more and more...

...and the cartels are now employing American billboards to get their message out:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/23/article-2637789-1E26D9A100000578-577_634x499.jpg

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=57134162&postcount=156
 
How did we end up with so many illegals, a great number of them minors, arriving on our Southern border in such a short window of time? Especially considering that most of them are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua. How did they make it from Mexico's southern border, one of the most secure in the Western Hemisphere, all the way to our border, a distance of approx. 2000 miles? This could not have occurred without the full knowledge and help of the Mexican government. It's tantamount to our rounding up all of our undesirables and dumping them at the Canadian border.

And how could our government not have known what was afoot? Perhaps the NSA was overwhelmed with spying on its own citizens?

This is NOT all the result of a coincidence.

Ishmael

There's a kernel of an idea there...
 
Yeah!!! They should deal with those undesirables the AMERICAN way and lock 'em all up under the banner of a fallacious war on drugs while private companies who contract to prisons line their pockets! CAPITALISM! Or ship them off to fight a fallacious war in the name of democracy! FREEDOM!

One question: do any of the concerned citizens in here have any actual statistics regarding this supposed surge of gal-durned illegals, hell-bent on stealing our jobs and wimminz? Or did you just like, see a brown person this morning and freak out?

I know one statistic.

We need cheap labor to replace 50 million of our own murdered children and the dumbing down of education to make sure everyone has their BA...
 
Yer right, gol'durnnit.

Romney woulda known what to do. Romney woulda taken care of those damm illegal basterds.

We shouldofa elected a president with a ruthless, uncaring, plutocratic backbone who doesn't flinch at wiping undesirables and lesser brownskins off the map, not this milquetoast liberal who....cares about people! Ugh!

As soon as it is discovered that Obama may truly be what we have said he is all along, the usual suspects start talking about someone else...
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A_J's corollary #5, “When lacking reason and sound argument, the New Age Liberal charges headlong into ‘debate’ with emotional cries of Hypocrisy. The New Age Liberal is, of course, immune to and incapable of Hypocrisy. That would require hard and fast standards.”
 
Yeah!!! They should deal with those undesirables the AMERICAN way and lock 'em all up under the banner of a fallacious war on drugs while private companies who contract to prisons line their pockets! CAPITALISM! Or ship them off to fight a fallacious war in the name of democracy! FREEDOM!

One question: do any of the concerned citizens in here have any actual statistics regarding this supposed surge of gal-durned illegals, hell-bent on stealing our jobs and wimminz? Or did you just like, see a brown person this morning and freak out?

Do you have an answer to his question or are you just going to spew meaningless drivel?
 
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