... spot a honey-trap?

[ChrisC0lumbus]

There's nothing us married-and-high-side-of-forty chaps like better than the attention of a gorgeous younger woman (well... Nothing I like better anyway) but how to spot when one is a honey-trap rather than the genuine article. Anyone got any tips?

 

[Erochic]

Well I'd say that the old saying "If it seems to good to be true, it probably is" would be a good place to start.

 

[STRC]

There's nothing us married-and-high-side-of-forty chaps like better than the attention of a gorgeous younger woman (well... Nothing I like better anyway) but how to spot when one is a honey-trap rather than the genuine article. Anyone got any tips?

Don't know what it is like across the pond but all you can do is test the waters and use caution! Once in a while you might find the genuine article. But like they say......ya can't win if ya don't play! Wish I had better advice for you but at this time of the morning ......that's all I have.......what time is it there anyway. It's 1:15am Wed. morning here!

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

07:45 here. The start of another day. HOORAY!!

Thanks for the advice guys. Got bitten by the "too good to be true" one the other week. At least that was just a meeting no-show. Can live with that! And what if it doesn't "seem too good"?

Definitely going to be in it. I was wondering how to spot signs of a trap once the investigations start. Women have always been able to play us men much better than we do them. Something to do with testosterone I think.

Any of you crafty women out there got any good tips?

 

[Debbie]

There's nothing us married-and-high-side-of-forty chaps like better than the attention of a gorgeous younger woman (well... Nothing I like better anyway) but how to spot when one is a honey-trap rather than the genuine article. Anyone got any tips?

Tell me if I've got it all wrong and I'll eat a worm.

So your married and you like the attention of a gorgeous woman. Nothing wrong with that. Or are you wanting to do more than look or have a pretty thing chat to you and give you an ego boost?

 

[norfolklad]

07:45 here. The start of another day. HOORAY!!

Thanks for the advice guys. Got bitten by the "too good to be true" one the other week. At least that was just a meeting no-show. Can live with that! And what if it doesn't "seem too good"?

Definitely going to be in it. I was wondering how to spot signs of a trap once the investigations start. Women have always been able to play us men much better than we do them. Something to do with testosterone I think.

Any of you crafty women out there got any good tips?

[HIGH VOICE]I can prove I'm genuine, just send me a cheque for £100 and I promise I won't cash it.[/HIGH VOICE]

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

Tell me if I've got it all wrong and I'll eat a worm.

So your married and you like the attention of a gorgeous woman. Nothing wrong with that. Or are you wanting to do more than look or have a pretty thing chat to you and give you an ego boost?

No need to eat worms Debbie (unless you like that sort oif stuff). Trying to balance the risks of taking it further should the situation present itself. Hence the "is it a trap?" Question. Simple to say "if I cheat I get what I deserve" but life is rarely that simple is it?

[HIGH VOICE]I can prove I'm genuine, just send me a cheque for £100 and I promise I won't cash it.[/HIGH VOICE]

Spotted you NL. It wasd the false high voice that gave it away

 

[Debbie]

No need to eat worms Debbie (unless you like that sort oif stuff). Trying to balance the risks of taking it further should the situation present itself. Hence the "is it a trap?" Question. Simple to say "if I cheat I get what I deserve" but life is rarely that simple is it?



Spotted you NL. It wasd the false high voice that gave it away

Worms are probably nutritious but I'd rather not eat them. Plus they're doing wonders in my garden.

So you're looking for a bit of slap and tickle but not with Mrs. Columbus?

That, my dear boy is a slippery slope to the I hope I don't get caught ride.

The fallout doesn't just happen to you though - it happens to your family and friends. But you're a grown man and I'm just a silly married woman who is allergic to cheating scoundrels.

Now if you were in an open marriage it would be a different kettle of fish, precious.

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

Worms are probably nutritious but I'd rather not eat them. Plus they're doing wonders in my garden.

So you're looking for a bit of slap and tickle but not with Mrs. Columbus?

That, my dear boy is a slippery slope to the I hope I don't get caught ride.

The fallout doesn't just happen to you though - it happens to your family and friends. But you're a grown man and I'm just a silly married woman who is allergic to cheating scoundrels.

Now if you were in an open marriage it would be a different kettle of fish, precious.

Gollum, gollum. Open is certainly one way of putting it. Certainly safe to assume so for the purpose of this discussion . Funny. I feel a bit Smeagol/Gollum about it all.

 

[Cumference]

There's nothing us married-and-high-side-of-forty chaps like better than the attention of a gorgeous younger woman (well... Nothing I like better anyway) but how to spot when one is a honey-trap rather than the genuine article. Anyone got any tips?

"Are you a likely target?"
Would be the obvious question.

Are you in a position where you have knowledge about something interesting, access to something interesting or do you have "enough of something" to make blackmail worth the effort?
If that is combined with "too good to be true", any possible alarm should go off.



.... but maybe there is just a rumor, that you cook like a dream, are hung like a horse, has the tongue of a giraffe and is filthy rich.

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

"Are you a likely target?"
Would be the obvious question.

Are you in a position where you have knowledge about something interesting, access to something interesting or do you have "enough of something" to make blackmail worth the effort?
If that is combined with "too good to be true", any possible alarm should go off.



.... but maybe there is just a rumor, that you cook like a dream, are hung like a horse, has the tongue of a giraffe and is filthy rich.

My reputation precedes me Well, 1/2 out of four anyway.... Guess I'm probably safe

 

[Hypoxia]

Following up on motivation: Who would want to trap you, and why? Who: wife, professional competitors, govt agents? Have you given them reasons to suspect you? Why: because you're worth trapping? What can be extracted from you? Do you harbor delusions of adequacy?

 

[norfolklad]

Honey trap or wind-up

Following up on motivation: Who would want to trap you, and why? Who: wife, professional competitors, govt agents? Have you given them reasons to suspect you? Why: because you're worth trapping? What can be extracted from you? Do you harbor delusions of adequacy?

Got bitten by the "too good to be true" one the other week. At least that was just a meeting no-show. Can live with that! And what if it doesn't "seem too good"?

In the original case mentioned - a no show - this seemed less a honey trap than a wind-up. Or it could, I suppose, have been someone genuine who got cold feet at the last moment.

A honey trap need not be based on any of the motivations given by Hypoxia. It could, of course, be aimed at extracting money in some way, willingly or otherwise.

No doubt there are genuine young women out there who really do like older men - or, at least, that's what I keep trying to persuade myself. But I look at some of the Personals on here and wonder. I'm sure that the intention of many of them is to elicit replies that will be the cause of a great many giggles over the foolishness of older men. It's a great pity when some people have nothing better to do than get a laugh at someone else's expense. Except that the replies, themselves, could be a wind-up in return - the biter bit.

How do you tell the difference between genuine, wind-up or honey trap? Let me know if you find out.

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

Wind-up I can live with. Nothing ventured; nothing gained, right? Honey trap may not even be motivated by money. May not even be personal just a general "get back at men" type thing (what's the female equivalent of a misogynist?). I don't suppose the women would let us in on TeamW's tactics. Millennia of scheming and secret planning would be ruined in one swoop.

I'll let you know if I work it out.

 

[Debbie]

Wind-up I can live with. Nothing ventured; nothing gained, right? Honey trap may not even be motivated by money. May not even be personal just a general "get back at men" type thing (what's the female equivalent of a misogynist?). I don't suppose the women would let us in on TeamW's tactics. Millennia of scheming and secret planning would be ruined in one swoop.

I'll let you know if I work it out.

With regards to women we do have a secret code. Our tactics and devious ways are secretive and spoken about with code words. We signal each other in public with a toss of our hair, a particular shade of lipstick indicates our intentions for the men in the room. We never get caught because we never write any of our secret ways down. There is no decoder or handbook. There is just the Sisterhood.

Mums the word.

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

Ah-Ha!!!! I knew it!!!!

 

[BurningMonkey]

Now if you were in an open marriage it would be a different kettle of fish, precious.

Not all of us were so fortunate as to marry a woman who accepts or embraces an open marriage.
And there's no magic mirror to foretell that such an arrangement might suddenly become a desirable thing after 20+ years when she's suddenly no longer willing and eager--or even interested.

Unbidden, the image of a dog in a manger comes to mind...

 

[Debbie]

There's the Boys Club where you have pissing matches, how long is your schlong contests, how many notches on your headboard scoreboards etc.

You reward yourselves with roundtoits, procrastinators cups, bastard beanies and t shirts with slogans like nice guys suck and are out of luck, I'm a BBW lover - they got to be buxom, bawdy and women, call a friend and establish an alibi before you fuck up.

The Girls Club has bullshit detectors, cures for Man Flu, handbooks on Fooling the Dummy in your life, how to really hide your shopping sprees, 99 ways to fuck with your man so he knows he's a screw up and lucky to have you, feigning the O's, how to act like you have womens troubles and get away with being a bitch, gold digging Tips.

We reward ourselves with money from your wallet, shopping sprees, decorating in pink, flowers and frilly lacy pastels, long liquid lunches, massages where we get the happy ending even though we're not putting out for you.

 

[Debbie]

Not all of us were so fortunate as to marry a woman who accepts or embraces an open marriage.
And there's no magic mirror to foretell that such an arrangement might suddenly become a desirable thing after 20+ years when she's suddenly no longer willing and eager--or even interested.

Unbidden, the image of a dog in a manger comes to mind...

We all have free will.

If you're talking about looking for sex outside of your marriage or relationship you have to be prepared for the if I get caught bombshell.

Sexless marriages or relationships where things aren't hunky dory must be frustrating in many ways. Emotionally, sexually etc.

Sex isn't just about getting off in a relationship. Holding, cuddling, kissing, stroking the one you love is good for us physically and mentally.

I have no solutions if your relationship isn't fulfilling for you or the temperature in the bedroom is like a fridge.

No one but the two people in the relationship know what is going on (or not) and they are the only one's that can try and make things better or go their own ways.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I always offer more money than they know theyre worth (pros or civilians). The extra cash flatters them, and they behave.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Ah. I thought you were asking how to avoid those news crews that try to trap older men looking for kids or prostitutes and I was going to suggest that you just don't try to date kids or hookers LOL

But Google is our friend.

With the correct definition in mind, my solution to this problem is to be a pauper. Nobody wants what I have!

 

[jomar]

Lighten up, the Cold War is over. Use Plenty of Fish or SwingLifestyle and you'll be fine. But yeah, could be trouble if your wife finds out.

 

[amofiga]

Simple in my case. I would have to assume that any gorgeous young woman who paid attention to me would have to either be crazy or a honey trap.

 

[FGB]

Simple in my case. I would have to assume that any gorgeous young woman who paid attention to me would have to either be crazy or a honey trap.

I've ask several in the last couple of months about what they want with an old goat like me.

Puts them off it does.

 

[ChrisC0lumbus]

Thanks all for your contributions and thoughts. Still looking like no eastly answers. In terms of reporting back it looks more and more like this one's a wind-up (again). In theory we're supposed to be meeting up next week but communications have gone VERY quiet. Of course it could just be that young ability to concentrate on one thing only for a short while... But I tend to think FGB may have the answer.