trolling for bad feedback

[CeasarBoobage]

We have all received negative feedback and hate-strewn comments for posting stories we thought were legit good reads, but have you ever done it on purpose? I was thinking it would be kind of funny to invest a little time writing a half-assed story and submit it without editing, merely to try and get the worst feedback ever.

I've seen threads here asking why out friend 'anonymous' attacked a story, as well as one or two asking authors to post their worst/funniest feedback, but I haven't seen one where someone wanted the hate.

Should we have an unofficial contest to see who can write a decent story and get the worst comments or emails? Of course, use an alt so the normal account doesn't get bombed.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'll win that contest, and 2nd place wont be close.

 

[lovecraft68]

Here's one I did on purpose.

http://www.literotica.com/s/thanks-for-the-roses

It's so over the top its close to a parody of the LW cuck stories. The thing about it is with just a litle change of dialogue at the end and some affection between the wife and the cuck it might have been able to hit a low 4.

But I kept to my vision and flamed the bitter cucks who populate the category. Its a 3.03, but that was after the contest sweep. Before that it was a 1.87

 

[sr71plt]

negative feedback and bad feedback are two entirely different animals. Sometimes they intersect, but not as much of the time as authors who are getting negative feedback think they do.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Here's one I did on purpose.

http://www.literotica.com/s/thanks-for-the-roses

It's so over the top its close to a parody of the LW cuck stories. The thing about it is with just a litle change of dialogue at the end and some affection between the wife and the cuck it might have been able to hit a low 4.

But I kept to my vision and flamed the bitter cucks who populate the category. Its a 3.03, but that was after the contest sweep. Before that it was a 1.87

THAT high! One of mine stayed at 1.0 for a while.

 

[DeeZire]

I sometimes ridicule Christianity and conservative political ideology in my stories. I don't do it to inflame or instigate, I just do it because that's the frame of mind of my characters. I could tone it down and try to write more for "the middle", but then I wouldn't be staying true to my characters.

Songwriter Steve Seskin once said that when he's debuting a new song at a writer's night, he'd rather have 50 people say they love it and 50 people say they hate it than have all 100 people say "that was nice."

I did intend to insult a specific audience with my Troll story. I think, in general, satire can be seen as an insult by the "true believers" who come here strictly for generic strokers. In that sense, probably half my stories are offensive to that crowd. My scores bear that out.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Every time I posted a story to Loving Wives it was a to illicit as many comments as I could that were loaded with vitriol and slanderous statements from the read that I could.

Not really, but that's the way it seemed. That one faction that one bombs and makes the nastiest comments about wives that cheat (again, is it cheating if the husband knows, participates, encourages?).

 

[Reshbod]

I've toyed with this idea for quite a while now.

First, the couple are happily married yet she still ends up in bed with another.

Second, she blames the husband for her fall because he is out of town or sick or something similar beyond his control.

Shortly after she discovers she is pregnant by her husband she takes up with the other guy, who convinces her to get an abortion so she can have his kid that the husband can raise unknowingly. (I'd like to see someone top that!)

She stays with her husband, who never figures out what is going on while she sleeps around and has other mens children.

One day, I'll actually write this.

 

[laptopwriter]

I have seen several authors brag about writing

something specifically to get as much negative feedback as possible, I don't really understand that kind of thinking though. Why would anyone purposely do a rotten job of anything just to get others to express the terrible job they did? Where is the satisfaction in that?

 

[Reshbod]

something specifically to get as much negative feedback as possible, I don't really understand that kind of thinking though. Why would anyone purposely do a rotten job of anything just to get others to express the terrible job they did? Where is the satisfaction in that?

Who says anything about doing a rotten job? I happen to like a certain type of story, usually involving a cheating wife who slips and the husband does not find out. There's no 'burn the bitch' type ending. Just like real life, the ending is ambiguous and we don't know the final outcome.

Many readers cannot stand this type of outcome and blast writers for letting her seemingly get away with it. These anonymous commenters often spew vile, nasty things. Not only insulting the characters but insulting the writer as well.

There are many stories I don't like (incest, extreme violence to name two). Even if they are expertly written, I don't like them and don't usually read them. I definitely don't spend time ranting against the author. I move on to something that interests me.

Many times, I find these comments humorous and enjoy them more than the people who love them and think they are great. Of course, if they provide criticism on how to improve or look at things differently, those are the best of all.

For me, adding a few touches to stories that I want to write that I know will upset the trolls is fun. I know I'm not an "real writer" and I don't make a living with it. I write these stories because I'm generally not finding them anywhere else. It's a release for me.

Also, I am of the belief that when it comes to a creative work you can make them happy or make them angry, but the thing you don't want to do is bore them.

This reply turned out longer than I expected. I hope it makes sense.

 

[StrangeLife]

something specifically to get as much negative feedback as possible, I don't really understand that kind of thinking though. Why would anyone purposely do a rotten job of anything just to get others to express the terrible job they did? Where is the satisfaction in that?

It's like yelling in a library. Sometimes you need to do something outrageous to safeguard the alignment of the cosmos.

 

[lovecraft68]

something specifically to get as much negative feedback as possible, I don't really understand that kind of thinking though. Why would anyone purposely do a rotten job of anything just to get others to express the terrible job they did? Where is the satisfaction in that?

I saw it as a challenge. Everyone works hard here to post stories people will like.

I reversed it and challenged myself to write a story designed to piss off a certain type of reader, it was a deliberate exercise.

Ad amongst all the bashing I received there were several comments complimenting me on doing it and stating the story was well written for what it was.

The best way to put it was it was a successful failure.

 

[sr71plt]

something specifically to get as much negative feedback as possible, I don't really understand that kind of thinking though. Why would anyone purposely do a rotten job of anything just to get others to express the terrible job they did? Where is the satisfaction in that?

Agree. It's as much troll activity as what they like to complain about. It mucks it up for everybody and is pretty childish.

 

[Swilly]

You don't even need to try. There are always going to be people that don't like what you do.

I just had one comment on a story that's almost a year old, saying they had just found the story and that they were looking for more of certain things with the characters. I wrote them and told them I had done a sequel that did not take things in the direction they had wished, but gave them the link anyway. I got this:

Not only is it not the type of thing I suggested in my other comments, but it's even lower-quality grammar & punctuation.

It's as if some readers believe that the authors are here to write specifically for them, and if you don't, they get pissed off.

 

[robertreams]

That's not half bad. Even worse are writers who get pissed at editors who volunteer to help them. Recently I had one tell me to go fuck myself because I asked her to please use the name of the story and her name on communications about the manuscript.

 

[lovecraft68]

That's not half bad. Even worse are writers who get pissed at editors who volunteer to help them. Recently I had one tell me to go fuck myself because I asked her to please use the name of the story and her name on communications about the manuscript.

Most likely because you had the audacity to question their impeccable grammar.

 

[laptopwriter]

@ Reshbod

That is not what I'm talking about. I have heard authors brag about purposely writing a story with the sole purpose of pissing off as many people as possible.

@ lovecraft68,

In most cases, you and I agree; however, I have to say I don't see the challenge of writing a story people hate.

Simply stick a story in LW where the wife dominates the husband and forces him to watch while she has sex with a black man possessing a 12" cock. Then makes him clean her when she's done. The story doesn't have to be written well, it doesn't have to flow, the characters need no development, it can contain every cliche' in the book, hell, it doesn't even have to be grammatically correct. You will get more hate mail than you can shake a 12" cock at.

Where's the challenge?

 

[TE999]

Writing a story purely to incite and annoy the disaffected, the insecure, the mysoginistic and the sexually inadequate is akin to throwing rocks at the village idiot. The effort's not worth the reaction you get, he's still an idiot and no one has learned anything.

 

[sr71plt]

Writing a story purely to incite and annoy the disaffected, the insecure, the mysoginistic and the sexually inadequate is akin to throwing rocks at the village idiot. The effort's not worth the reaction you get, he's still an idiot and no one has learned anything.

Well, ummm, there might be more than one idiot in such a scenario. Just sayin'.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The idea is to make readers feel strongly.

 

[PayDay]

I wrote a joke story on purpose. It had ridiculous everything, over the top everything, super-sized attributes galore.

It's currently in the mid four range.

 

[slyc_willie]

There's a story by a former Lit member (their original has been deleted) that was written specifically to piss off the LW crowd. He sent me a copy of it before it was posted, and it was indeed, extremely bad. The comments he eventually received were all over the place, attacking the story for content, plausibility, racial denigration, everything.

If I remember correctly, it was called, simply, "The Loving Wife."

ETA: Yup, it's still there.

Some of the comments are simply hilarious.

 

[laptopwriter]

@ slyc_willie

That's exactly what I mean, why waste the effort? It makes no sense...at least to me.

 

[slyc_willie]

That's exactly what I mean, why waste the effort? It makes no sense...at least to me.

Well, his standard stories weren't all that much better, but he stuck mainly to incest and non-human (often crossing the two over). He told me he wrote it in a night while drinking, "just for the hell of it."

Personally, I take my writing just seriously enough to be proud of most of what I write. At the same time, I can read something like that story and enjoy a chuckle or two. Everybody writes for different reasons.

 

[lovecraft68]

The way I see it is this.

In LW which is where the majority of the real nasty trolls live what do we have?

A bunch of angry little people who get a thrill out of insulting authors and doing it behind the safety of the net. They are the equal to little kids who go nyah nyah and run away.

But they also try to be hurtful and hope to upset the authors. There is sheer malice in a lot of these losers comments and they laugh away.

So I figure its fun to do it to them. Write a story that will piss them off send them frothing and get the kind of reaction from them they think they do to the authors.

Lex Talionis LW style.

The people who can't see or understand it most likely are ones who care a lot more about their scores and feedback then someone like me does. I'd rather get a good laugh at their expense then a good score.