US Government and Police and PAIN

Nope. The idea of the epidural made me queasy, so I was determined to go without. The nurses offered it every time they came in. All three times I was 9 cm when I asked.

Actually with the third, they gave me something in the IV. Stadol maybe? I had only been at the hospital for an hour or so. .

It's very interesting to look in Wiki for Stadol (the name is no longer in use).
It seems to be good in the Veterinary and for migraine, too. . . .
 
Nope. The idea of the epidural made me queasy, so I was determined to go without. The nurses offered it every time they came in. All three times I was 9 cm when I asked.

Actually with the third, they gave me something in the IV. Stadol maybe? I had only been at the hospital for an hour or so. They checked one more time before they called for the epidural, but it was too late. The baby was born before I felt any effects from the drug they gave me.

I have a reasonably high pain threshold, but no desire to test it unnecessarily. :) My mom had had an epidural when she had my brother, so someone I knew personally had done it. My doctor did not press one way or the other, which was nice; it was just up to me.

Problems did arise, a little, because I'd had to go into the hospital about two months before my due date because my fluid was leaking. I ended up in the hospital for four weeks, after the initial guess was the baby would come in 7-10 days. :p So they induced, and about twelve hours after inducing decided it was okay to give me the epidural. Then about twelve hours after that, along came PennBoy. ;)
 
I think I can hear the OP's teeth gnashing at discovering that his rant has been changed into a discussion of epidurals. :D
 
Maybe the government will implant epidurals while we're at it. Or maybe aliens will.
 
I think at best at least a plot bunny might be skinned from this. Kinda made me think of remote vibrators.

Then again, I get this headache at the same time everyday....

Don't worry, it's just a tumor.

My nutsac is itchy....Is it the government or just Houston humidity? :D

A quick suggestion, read the label more carefully. If the itching persists, you're not using enough of the special shampoo.

Q_C
 
Paranoid schizophrenia or troll? Hard to say. I get regular correspondence at work from a paranoid schizophrenic that sounds a lot like this, but with more personal specifics. Sad stuff. He has better spelling, punctuation, and grammar than many writers on this site, though.
 
Paranoid schizophrenia or troll? Hard to say. I get regular correspondence at work from a paranoid schizophrenic that sounds a lot like this, but with more personal specifics. Sad stuff. He has better spelling, punctuation, and grammar than many writers on this site, though.

A successful schizophrenic pays careful attention to detail.

That's not me making light; they're extremely intelligent individuals most times, and the alternate realities are often more detailed than real life (meaning more distinct than the things we realize in real life, not more detailed than it truly is). Ultimately, the brain is convincing itself of what is or isn't true. Tricking yourself takes high intelligence, which in turn spirals upward, making the "reality" created more and more intense.

Sadly, most schizos start out as useful and intelligent individuals and remain that way until the falsehood fractures. It really is sad to see what happens to intelligent people in society that is gradually dumbing itself out of existence.

Worse than that, consider this: Take the least attentive person you know and ask yourself how much you notice that they miss, especially the useful information that they miss. Now ask yourself, how much would this schizophrenic be able to perceive that I miss, given the elevated intelligence level?

The difference is something vital that society is sorely missing.

Of course, when their minds can no longer maintain the details without noticeable conflicts...

Q_C
 
Worse than that, consider this: Take the least attentive person you know and ask yourself how much you notice that they miss, especially the useful information that they miss. Now ask yourself, how much would this schizophrenic be able to perceive that I miss, given the elevated intelligence level?
The problem is, that most of that detail is manufactured in their brain-- but this person cannot tell the difference between their imagination and objective, empirical, reality.
 
The problem is, that most of that detail is manufactured in their brain-- but this person cannot tell the difference between their imagination and objective, empirical, reality.

A thought on this...

There have been individuals who were able to maintain some normalcy once they perceived the falsehoods their mind was portraying to them. Good example, John Nash of a Beautiful Mind.
 
A successful schizophrenic pays careful attention to detail.

That's not me making light; they're extremely intelligent individuals most times, and the alternate realities are often more detailed than real life (meaning more distinct than the things we realize in real life, not more detailed than it truly is). Ultimately, the brain is convincing itself of what is or isn't true. Tricking yourself takes high intelligence, which in turn spirals upward, making the "reality" created more and more intense.

Sadly, most schizos start out as useful and intelligent individuals and remain that way until the falsehood fractures. It really is sad to see what happens to intelligent people in society that is gradually dumbing itself out of existence.

Worse than that, consider this: Take the least attentive person you know and ask yourself how much you notice that they miss, especially the useful information that they miss. Now ask yourself, how much would this schizophrenic be able to perceive that I miss, given the elevated intelligence level?

The difference is something vital that society is sorely missing.

Of course, when their minds can no longer maintain the details without noticeable conflicts...

Q_C

You don't know many schizophrenics, do yuh?

I've examined 1000s and never met a smart one or one with any talent or creativity or extraordinary skills. For them life is like living in a music video.
 
You don't know many schizophrenics, do yuh?

I've examined 1000s and never met a smart one or one with any talent or creativity or extraordinary skills. For them life is like living in a music video.

John Nash the mathematician - if the diagnosis was correct.
 
The problem is, that most of that detail is manufactured in their brain-- but this person cannot tell the difference between their imagination and objective, empirical, reality.

You got and restated my point.

On a sidenote, this is one of the main points to understanding where the disease originates. Someone of fair intelligence can plainly see the often irrational behavior of people of intelligence lower than theirs. If your brain insists on trying to find rational reasoning from that... Well, sooner or later, it will fracture in places.

You don't know many schizophrenics, do yuh?

I've examined 1000s and never met a smart one or one with any talent or creativity or extraordinary skills. For them life is like living in a music video.

I hope these occurrences weren't from a professional standpoint. If you were entrusted with evaluating the mentally ill and came to this conclusion of them... Well, I guess mass shootings would be on the rise wouldn't they?

Lemme guess: these evaluations took a matter of minutes, maybe a few hours, and then you never saw them again?

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Paranoid schizophrenics are extremely intelligent, some gifted, and fairly functional. A PS can go along time with people not thinking much more is wrong with them besides being "moody"
 
Or maybe he's just making it all up.

Speaking of disorders.

This pretty much sums you up

One of the most important symptoms of pathological narcissism (the Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is grandiosity. Grandiose fantasies (megalomaniac delusions of grandeur) permeate every aspect of the narcissist's personality. They are the reason that the narcissist feels entitled to special treatment which is typically incommensurate with his real accomplishments. The Grandiosity Gap is the abyss between the narcissist's self-image (as reified by his False Self) and reality.

When Narcissistic Supply is deficient, the narcissist de-compensates and acts out in a variety of ways. Narcissists often experience psychotic micro-episodes during therapy and when they suffer narcissistic injuries in a life crisis. But can the narcissist "go over the edge"? Do narcissists ever become psychotic?

Granted, the narcissist's hold on reality is tenuous (narcissists sometimes fail the reality test). Admittedly, narcissists often seem to believe in their own confabulations. They are unaware of the pathological nature and origin of their self-delusions and are, thus, technically delusional (though they rarely suffer from hallucinations, disorganised speech, or disorganised or catatonic behaviour). In the strictest sense of the word, narcissists appear to be psychotic.

But, actually, they are not. There is a qualitative difference between benign (though well-entrenched) self-deception or even malignant con-artistry – and "losing it".

Pathological narcissism should not be construed as a form of psychosis because:

The narcissists is usually fully aware of the difference between true and false, real and make-belief, the invented and the extant, right and wrong. The narcissist consciously chooses to adopt one version of the events, an aggrandising narrative, a fairy-tale existence, a "what-if" counterfactual life. He is emotionally invested in his personal myth. The narcissist feels better as fiction than as fact – but he never loses sight of the fact that it is all just fiction.

Throughout, the narcissist is in full control of his faculties, cognisant of his choices, and goal-orientated. His behaviour is intentional and directional. He is a manipulator and his delusions are in the service of his stratagems. Hence his chameleon-like ability to change guises, his conduct, and his convictions on a dime.

Narcissistic delusions rarely persist in the face of blanket opposition and reams of evidence to the contrary. The narcissist usually tries to convert his social milieu to his point of view. He attempts to condition his nearest and dearest to positively reinforce his delusional False Self. But, if he fails, he modifies his profile on the fly. He "plays it by ear". His False Self is extemporaneous – a perpetual work of art, permanently reconstructed in a reiterative process designed around intricate and complex feedback loops.

Though the narcissistic personality is rigid – its content is always in flux. Narcissists forever re-invent themselves, adapt their consumption of Narcissistic Supply to the "marketplace", attuned to the needs of their "suppliers". Like the performers that they are, they resonate with their "audience", giving it what it expects and wants. They are efficient instruments for the extraction and consumption of human reactions.

As a result of this interminable process of fine tuning, narcissists have no loyalties, no values, no doctrines, no beliefs, no affiliations, and no convictions. Their only constraint is their addiction to human attention, positive or negative.
 
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