Today approximately 6 million Americans got health insurance via the ACA

"Obamacare" is a fucking joke.

Everything to do with it is a joke. The selective Republican moralism, the sweetheart riders and provisions, "Deathcare," the chicken little-ing, the lack of public option, Biden's "it's a big fucking deal," the shutdown, the website. It's all ridiculous.

I am happy that more people have healthcare but I think that we should elect a golden retriever to be president in 2016 because at least it would be cute and loyal and fond of frisbees. I bet the country could come together over a president like that.
 
Everything to do with it is a joke. The selective Republican moralism, the sweetheart riders and provisions, "Deathcare," the chicken little-ing, the lack of public option, Biden's "it's a big fucking deal," the shutdown, the website. It's all ridiculous.

I am happy that more people have healthcare but I think that we should elect a golden retriever to be president in 2016 because at least it would be cute and loyal and fond of frisbees. I bet the country could come together over a president like that.

they do?


:rolleyes:
 
Everything to do with it is a joke. The selective Republican moralism, the sweetheart riders and provisions, "Deathcare," the chicken little-ing, the lack of public option, Biden's "it's a big fucking deal," the shutdown, the website. It's all ridiculous.

I am happy that more people have healthcare but I think that we should elect a golden retriever to be president in 2016 because at least it would be cute and loyal and fond of frisbees. I bet the country could come together over a president like that.

:confused:
 

No, you're right. It's the worst thing ever, and everything about it is a lie and awful and evil and designed to steal money from us.

I'm not going to get into a junk numbers war. I have no problem being critical of the ACA, but I also think it accomplishes some important things. I hope that the data we collect over the next few years is more transparent and less politicized, because at the end of the day, this is about getting people healthcare and the only motivation should be to do a good job because it is the right and more prudent thing to do.

Anyway, you shouldn't bother arguing with me anymore. Canada has ruined me and I am a socialist now.
 
Everything to do with it is a joke. The selective Republican moralism, the sweetheart riders and provisions, "Deathcare," the chicken little-ing, the lack of public option, Biden's "it's a big fucking deal," the shutdown, the website. It's all ridiculous.
P.T. Barnum might have invented it from beyond his grave.

The Federal government forces people to buy health insurance from private companies, and suddenly the world is right again.

This is so obscene I don't want to watch it anymore.

I'm not insured, so, I thought, "okay, let's give Obama the benefit of the doubt" but the government website flipped me onto the California website. So I answered all of the questions and I was informed that I did not qualify.

That's Obamacare for me. Nothing.

Obama is at best an idiot. And the ACA is, as a consequence, idiotic.

2200 pages of bullshit.

I am happy that more people have healthcare but I think that we should elect a golden retriever to be president in 2016 because at least it would be cute and loyal and fond of frisbees. I bet the country could come together over a president like that.
Beagles.

The President ought to be a beagle.
 
P.T. Barnum might have invented it from beyond his grave.

The Federal government forces people to buy health insurance from private companies, and suddenly the world is right again.

This is so obscene I don't want to watch it anymore.

I'm not insured, so, I thought, "okay, let's give Obama the benefit of the doubt" but the government website flipped me onto the California website. So I answered all of the questions and I was informed that I did not qualify.

That's Obamacare for me. Nothing.

Obama is at best an idiot. And the ACA is, as a consequence, idiotic.

2200 pages of bullshit.

A lot of hands went into those pages, and they were all sticky and greasy and greedy and dirty.

I used to think Obama was much smarter. The power of a good speaker, I guess. That's a lesson learned, for me.

Beagles.

The President ought to be a beagle.

Yes! I agree with that! They are sharp. This week I watched a video of a beagle that devised a way to snatch chicken nuggets out of a toaster oven. Here it is! That's the kind of innovative thinking I want at the helm of the country. She would get you healthcare AND chicken nuggets.
 
A lot of hands went into those pages, and they were all sticky and greasy and greedy and dirty.

I used to think Obama was much smarter. The power of a good speaker, I guess. That's a lesson learned, for me.

Your brain can be the sum of a million Einsteins but you still gotta work with other people.

That don't mean the other people gotta work with you.

And the only way to get them to do what you want absolutely is to go down the shogun/Darth Vader route.

Despite the imperfections, he got it and other shit done. Yeah, it ain't the best it shoulda been. But if we wanted something better, we should've decided to be better ourselves from jump instead of yapping, yelling and bullshitting for almost half a decade.
 
This I have to see!

I'm home

Oh, you're invited. It's going to be fun!

All of the money is just moving in circles. We wil fix it.

Your brain can be the sum of a million Einsteins but you still gotta work with other people.

That don't mean the other people gotta work with you.

And the only way to get them to do what you want absolutely is to go down the shogun/Darth Vader route.

Despite the imperfections, he got it and other shit done. If we wanted something better, we should've decided to be better ourselves from jump instead of yapping, yelling and bullshitting for almost half a decade.

In regards to his intelligence, it's more that I held him in overly high esteem in the first place. Of course I don't think he's an idiot, but over the course of his presidency, we've seen a lot more of him, and he's made a few iffy calls and mistakes that led me to reconsider. I wanted and hoped for a rational, intellectual leader, and I got a politician. I'm also MUCH more disenfranchised with the government in general than I was in 2008.

I know he was stuck with the Party of No, and it wasn't even easy navigating the Democrats back when the bill was written. It's wrong to attribute everything in the ACA to Obama like it's exactly what he was gunning for, but on the other hand, it is basically his banner achievement, and things like the website and his choice of wording in the "no one is going to lose their healthcare" had nothing to do with compromise issues.

That said, I acknowledge the accomplishment. It IS a big fucking deal! But there's still plenty of room for improvement. Like I said, the priority should be to fix the system, not politicize it. There's bullshitting coming from all directions.
 
Byron, oh Byron, the poster child of the "I, me, mine" instant-gratification generation.

Let's see, Byron lives in California, where he's often bragged about being one of the best computer systems administrators in the state. It's not far-fetched to think that Byron is pulling six figures. He's forty-something and single (and there are good odds he's never had a second date with the same woman in his life, but I digress).

Somehow, Byron has managed to get this far in his stellar career without health insurance.

So he "gives Obama a chance" and fills out online forms, which is what the best computer systems administrators do when they aren't resetting passwords for the masses.

Lo and behold, there's "nothing" out there for poor, poor pitiful Byron.

Sure, there are policies out there for 99.99% of Americans, but nothing for poor Byron. This, of course, makes President Obama a poopyhead and the ACA the product of a poopyhead. :rolleyes:

Since existing conditions are no longer disqualifying factors, I've got to think that the well-compensated Byron doesn't qualify for any taxpayer subsidies (as opposed to medical coverage). This, of course, would give Bryon (a lifelong devotee of "I, me, mine") the sads.

Just once, I'd like to see Byron waddle up to a single mother who couldn't get coverage on her kids pre-existing conditions and explain all Byron-like why her kids were better off dying under the old way of doing things.
 
Interesting assumptions, where the hell do they come from?
I would wager a lot that they are untrue, but that would be like taking candy from a baby besides California doesn't even have Obamacare.
 
Interesting assumptions, where the hell do they come from?
I would wager a lot that they are untrue, but that would be like taking candy from a baby besides California doesn't even have Obamacare.

From the California Health Care Exchange website:
California was the first state in the nation to enact legislation creating a health benefit exchange under federal health care reform.

LINK

It also mentions how subsidies phase out completely at 88k per year.
 
Interesting assumptions, where the hell do they come from?
I would wager a lot that they are untrue, but that would be like taking candy from a baby besides California doesn't even have Obamacare.

Oblamercare is a tax, yes they have it.
 
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