The Three Laws of Robotics and BDSM Robots

[LearnerDom]

Sex Robots are cumming! Technology is being propelled by desperate horny geeky men who are fed up with being rejected, and are going to build their own women dammit!

But will they be able to build BDSM robots, with a view to Iassac Asimov's Three rules?

1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2.A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Scenario A - The Sub Robot

"Master, master, you are hurting me, RED RED RED!!"

"But I only lightly spanked\choked\whipped\stretched your slutty warm robot holes!"

And how exactly do you tie up a super strong robot anyway?

Scenario B - The Domme Robot

This is even harder to programme

"Miss, I've been bad and need punishing, so go ahead and spank me"

"Negative Sub, I might injure you"

"But, but.. I cheated on you with a little blonde bot and her twin bot sister,
Please, tie me, slap me, and give me the CBT I deserve"

"Negative, cannot comply, cannot comply!!!"

And again, strong robots with a strap-on? Oh that's going hurt!

 

[YourCaptor]

lol, why must they be strong, or talk like calculators?

Anyway, I don't think the laws conflict with BDSM.

Unless you go beyond SSC.

 

[Stella_Omega]

As we all of us know, someone who is hurt is not necessarily someone who is harmed.

 

[Stella_Omega]

or you know... just have sex with your best friend of the opposite sex with the intent to procreate.

 

[Primalex]

Sex Robots are cumming! Technology is being propelled by desperate horny geeky men who are fed up with being rejected, and are going to build their own women dammit!

Actually, geeks and horny women already teamed up and built fuck machines. They just didn't bother to implement Siri.

To solve the problem:
Asimov's rules are for machines with the ability to make decisions. Who wants a sex bot to make decisions? It's a tool. You are not implementing Asimov's rules into an assault rifle or a car either.

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

A bot is only going to be as good as its programming.

Think about it, a huge company like Microsoft release operating systems that are inherently flawed and need multiple updates to correct.

Do you really want to put your life in the hands of something that needs the odd ctrl, alt, del when its OS gets in a muddle?

 

[Bramblethorn]

Sex Robots are cumming! Technology is being propelled by desperate horny geeky men who are fed up with being rejected, and are going to build their own women dammit!

But will they be able to build BDSM robots, with a view to Iassac Asimov's Three rules?

Being contrary here: Why would Asimov's rules have any say in the matter?

They're not RL law. They're not even a practical option for robot programming - if humans can't agree on what constitutes "harm", how can we train a robot to do so? Asimov got quite a lot of mileage writing stories that explored the weaknesses of those very same rules: do you really want a robot that refuses to let you drink alcohol or drive a car because you might come to harm?

If we did manage to produce human-level AIs that were smart enough to interpret these laws sensibly... well, think of it this way: if I told you there was a way to genetically modify your children so that they'd grow up to be obedient servants, even willing to commit suicide on command, wouldn't that seem awfully like slavery? And if it's wrong to do that to a human, why would it be OK to do it to a human-level intelligence that happens to be made of silicon instead of meat?

Getting back to RL, we already have robots that are specifically designed to break Asimov's rules - a cruise missile, for instance.

 

[1sickbastard]

A bot is only going to be as good as its programming.

Until said robots become self-teaching, in which case robots become self-programming. And in Azimov's universe, they do. In our universe, self-learning computers are already being developed.


Also, Azimov introduced the "Zeroith Law":"A robot may not harm a human being, unless he finds a way to prove that ultimately the harm done would benefit humanity in general."~Robots and Empire

 

[KoPilot]

What geek wouldn't want KARA?

at some levels of geekdom; having the ultimate toy robot becomes as much a part of the fetish as whatever gets done with said perfect robot. If self awareness is on the coolness metric for a significant portion of robot fandom (and it is) it's gonna end up on the market shortly after it's possible.

This geek? I'm not a heterodude.

I think the importance of sentience here is grossly overstated. At the same time, a fucking machine doesn't belong in this category at all, really. Otherwise you can just throw vibrators in there, too.

The funny thing about Asimov is that he's just one guy, asking one set of questions. He writes about how the West conceives of and tolerates the non-human Other, which is an almost laughably immature mode of thinking when you come at the thing from a completely different worldview. Like, say, an animist one, wherein lies the understanding that the world is already full of non-human Others, and sentient AI is just another variety to throw on the pile.

 

[KoPilot]

Pretty sure blue tooth controlled vibrators is already a thing.

So is "virtual girlfriend" for phones."

how long before the two are combined? It really would only surprise me if they weren't already.

The premise for the movie "her" is a man having a relationship with his phone's sentient OS. I'm sure the film takes a more western inspirational angle, but there's tons of room there for perverts to run with.

I'm actually pretty fascinated by that sort of thing-- I think things get more interesting when you look past the writhing, person-shaped silicone mass with a hole (but unable to realistically blush?). A romance with software, with a tachikoma, is where its at. Even Chobits asked a more interesting question, IMO, than realistic fuckbots do. Fuckbots just tell us what we know already; that human sexuality will transcend time and space to get its fap if it needs to. Chobits actually turned that trope on its head-- turns out the fuckbot has a reset button instead of a hole. Is it still worth keeping around?

I think another interesting question would be if people would pay to be dominated by a non-sentience, even if it was really, really good at it? I guess maybe it's an easier question to answer than it seemed at first-- a lot of dudes are one step away from doing just that already.

 

[KoPilot]

Readdressing the original question



The majority of people advancing robotics and artificial intelligence aren't asimov inspired westerners. The majority of people trying to cash in on the multi-facted market for virtual girlfriends and robotic masturbatory aids don't give a shit about the three laws.

So will they be able to? We'll never know; no one is even trying.

It makes for compelling literature, but compelling literature rarely makes for compelling business.