Nobody wants the men (The AH show off your tits thread)

[A_Little_Show]

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[Mrdarkblueeyes]

I'm not sure I get the gist of your post: you seem to decry the stereotype that men's bodies are ugly, but then say that “teenage boys are gross, teen girls rarely are." If by gross, you mean socially inept, then I would agree; they're learning to become adults. If you mean their bodies are “gross," I don't agree; after all, girls at that age are experiencing a certain level of “grossness" that boys don't (for obvious reasons).

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Sure.

I was a good looking youth and young adult but never made a dime from my looks and physical condition. But it was common to see attractive females plucked from the office pool for sex and benefits.

Unfortunately there's always someone cuter who comes along.

I was surprised to see how many Hollywood stars cant get jobs tho they were big names a few years back. Its like a new Cadillac, the appeal lasts about a year.

 

[PennLady]

I'm not sure I quite get what you're going for either, because nothing you said was news to me. It seems I've read any number of articles that touch on these things. Women's bodies, for example, are seen as "sexier" than men's -- in general.

I also don't see how a young girl's comment that penises are ugly is shaming men, particularly. Yes, these men were there and the remarks were broadcast, but again, I don't think she was shaming anyone so much as offering an opinion. And probably an opinion that is shared by many.

Women are shamed all the time, if indirectly, for body types that are less than perfect. It may not be that a woman is pictured and captioned "She's ugly," although that certainly happens. Check out any tabloid cover in the supermarket -- half of them are "See what they look like without makeup!" and "Who looks chunky on the beach!" What's that if not shaming?

Earlier this year a picture of a Sikh woman went viral (I read articles, didn't see it; I tend to miss all the viral stuff), and she was taken to task/ridiculed for having some hair on her face, thick eyebrows, stuff like that. Someone took her picture and tweeted it -- she responded by pointing out that she is Sikh and Sikhs do not believe in "amending" the body God gave them.

I also read about a woman who is quite fit, and posted a pic of her fit self with her three kids, and the caption "What's your excuse?" This elicited a lot of outrage, apparently. And I don't think this was directed towards men.

Also, why would you think her parents would congratulate themselves after such a comment? Because they think it means she doesn't have a current interest in sex or something? Not sure I buy that. I bet they were as surprised as anyone.

I don't see this as "public shaming," although I didn't see the show. It's one thing to say that a body part is ugly -- that's not the same as saying this *person* is ugly.

So again, I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

 

[sunandshadow]

I posted a pic request recently that specifically included penises and/or male bodies decorated with christmas tree trimmings/ornaments. Got no responses. I don't go looking for pics very often because I'm not as visual as most men seem to be, and more than half of men are not my type, and seeing sexualized pictures of men who aren't my type is a bit repellant. But the "pornaments" theme seemed fun enough to counterbalance seeing some people who aren't my cup of tea.

And yeah, vulvas are... not going to say ugly, but, disturbingly weird looking to me. Seeing one on a computer puts it a little closer to my face than I ever want that to be. But, I'm an adult, and I understand how important it is to not do body shaming; I've certainly hated it when other people have done something like that to me. All I have to do is not look if there's some picture I find unattractive; there's no reason for me to comment negatively on it, unless someone is asking for an artistic technique crit of pose and lighting and that kind of thing.

 

[A_Little_Show]

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[lovecraft68]

Difference is boys push the low self esteem in girls more so they can get laid. Girls with low self esteem are the ones giving "blow job parties" in HS top be popular

If a boy makes a crack about another boy its just another insult. If a couple of girls mock a boy its because they are kid and kids can be mean

when boys-no when men because it continues well into the adult age-mock girls its saying "Hey, you're fat and ugly and a loser, but I feel bad and I'll fuck you."

I see it at bars all the time "She'd be hot if she lost those hips" utted from a fat pig that can't see his cock without a mirror

Men do far more damage to women self image than boys do to boys and women do to boys and I don;t need some article to tell me that. My wife works with young women for a living including self esteem workshops.

No one cares about the men because as a species they are far more disgusting.

and I say that not only as a man, but most importantly as one who works with women who have spent their lives being beaten down by men. Verbally emotionally and physically. I teach them martial arts to feel better about themselves and to defend themselves.

So spare me the feel bad for men. Feel bad for the women that deal with them.

Your pity party post is pathetic.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

No one cares about the men because as a species they are far more disgusting.

If you feel this way and you claim to be a man, then why don't you take your disgusting ass to the top of a skyscraper and take a flying leap?

That'll be one less disgusting male in this world.

Oh wait, you're a fucking mangina who hates men that speak out on misandry, so you don't count, right?

I bet the ladies fall truly and madly for that schtick.

 

[lovecraft68]

If you feel this way and you claim to be a man, then why don't you take your disgusting ass to the top of a skyscraper and take a flying leap?

That'll be one less disgusting male in this world.

Oh wait, you're a fucking mangina who hates men that speak out on misandry, so you don't count, right?

I bet the ladies fall truly and madly for that schtick.

Hey LJ, why don't you post a link to your disgusting hate filled sexist blog and let people see you for what you are?

Go ahead. I dare you to show the people here how hate filled you are. You only came here because you saw the title of the thread and went "yes an excuse to bash women!"

Everything is a woman's fault for you to cover up your own failures as a man and a human being.

 

[PennLady]

I'm sure the opinion is shared by many. Should an overweight person displaying his/her body be called ugly in person in a public setting? It's possible to argue being overweight is a lifestyle issue. What can the men do to make their penises more appealing? Isn't it even more inappropriate to tell someone they are ugly for a characteristic they can't change? It's like telling an amputee he is ugly because he's missing a limb.

Well, no one should be demeaned or insulted, but it happens. If you put yourself in a public setting, then unfortunately you open yourself to criticism, some of which will be bad or hurtful. You have to learn to deal.

I think you may be making more of this (haha) than it is. One girl on a show made one comment; this doesn't mean there's an epidemic of penis-shaming going on. And she didn't say *the men* were ugly. She said one piece of their anatomy was ugly, and as you pointed out, she's a teenager. I'm not sure this opinion will be given a lot of weight, and it shouldn't be.

Oh, I agree completely. Two wrongs don't make a right. Society values beautiful women, and the unavoidable corollary is that society doesn't value unattractive women as much. Why do tabloids do that? Is it schadenfreude? Does it make other women feel better about themselves in comparison? Does it validate the opinions already held by men?

Probably yes.

I think one difference is that some women are considered gorgeous and the more skin they show, the better. My impression from society at large is that no man is gorgeous in that way. Obviously, my opinion differs. I think a shapely hard cock is inspiring, but I'm odd...

Really? There are plenty of "beefcake" photos out there -- calendars, magazines, whatever. Lots of women like to look at a handsome man in few clothes. Average men and women both suffer in comparison to the "beautiful people," the models, actors, etc. If you're talking more like why aren't things like Playgirl as popular as Playboy, well, there's probably a ton of social, historical and cultural answers to that one.

And perhaps the articles weren't as interesting.

Is the outrage because it's a rude statement? Is it because nobody likes falling short in comparison? Is it because a woman who is less fit feels less valued?

The outrage -- and this was only a couple of articles, remember -- was more that this woman was implying that she found time to exercise and be fit even with three kids, so why weren't the rest of us doing the same? Some people found it to be fat-shaming. In the articles, as I recall, the woman said she was trying to be encouraging, be a role model, but to many she came across as kind of arrogant and less-than-empathetic to the fact that simply not everyone can do what she does.

As a parent of teenagers, I want them to have healthy happy lives including opportunities to relish their sexuality. JUST NOT YET.

I have kids too, not teenagers yet, and I want the same, but I wouldn't be congratulating myself about such a comment unless it was in jest.

I saw no evidence that the men on stage felt shame. What about the teenage boys feeling uncomfortable with their bodies absorbing a message that they are ugly from a representative of the group they most desperately want to find them appealing?

You are again conflating the fact that the girl said *penises* are ugly with the whole person being ugly, which she did not say -- going by what you said, at least. I bet most teenage boys either agree, or found the whole thing funny. And they may want girls to find them appealing, but I think the reasons, as LC alludes to, are more self-centered. One person making one comment does not a message make.

If we agree that treatment of girls is unacceptable, why should we passively ignore the same treatment of boys?

We shouldn't, and I'm not saying boys don't feel pressure or have low self-esteem. But again, I don't know that there's a wave of people saying penises are ugly. The girl is allowed to have an opinion, and others will have to learn to deal with it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Just as an aside, LJ used to have the link to his blog in his profile for all to see.

But a little while ago made it so not just anyone can see it.

Why is that? Hmmm....

 

[PennLady]

Men do far more damage to women self image than boys do to boys and women do to boys and I don;t need some article to tell me that. My wife works with young women for a living including self esteem workshops.

You're way over-generalizing. In fact I'm sure you'd find a lot of arguments out there that women do more damage to each other in terms of self-esteem and all of that. You may have had bad experiences with the men you've encountered, and how they treated the women you met, but that doesn't mean all men are like that.

There are boys and young men out there who were/are abused, in many ways. My beta reader was essentially tossed out of his home when he was about sixteen and spent some time homeless and living on the streets. He's a pretty well-adjusted buy, but even he admits he still has issues because of this (not with women, particularly, but in other areas).

No one cares about the men because as a species they are far more disgusting.

How do you get up in the mornings.

and I say that not only as a man, but most importantly as one who works with women who have spent their lives being beaten down by men. Verbally emotionally and physically. I teach them martial arts to feel better about themselves and to defend themselves.

So spare me the feel bad for men. Feel bad for the women that deal with them.

Your pity party post is pathetic.

I do feel bad for those women, and spare no sympathy for the men who treat them so poorly. But there are men who are abused and go through things like this and have far less of a support network -- I feel badly for them too. If you think they should just "man up" and deal with it, then that's just making the problem worse.

 

[tolyk]

I posted a pic request recently that specifically included penises and/or male bodies decorated with christmas tree trimmings/ornaments. Got no responses. I don't go looking for pics very often because I'm not as visual as most men seem to be, and more than half of men are not my type, and seeing sexualized pictures of men who aren't my type is a bit repellant. But the "pornaments" theme seemed fun enough to counterbalance seeing some people who aren't my cup of tea.

And yeah, vulvas are... not going to say ugly, but, disturbingly weird looking to me. Seeing one on a computer puts it a little closer to my face than I ever want that to be. But, I'm an adult, and I understand how important it is to not do body shaming; I've certainly hated it when other people have done something like that to me. All I have to do is not look if there's some picture I find unattractive; there's no reason for me to comment negatively on it, unless someone is asking for an artistic technique crit of pose and lighting and that kind of thing.

The only thing that caught my eye in this whole thread so far is that your join date says 1969... How is it that you acquired a join date that predates the internet, let alone this site?

 

[sr71plt]

If you feel this way and you claim to be a man, then why don't you take your disgusting ass to the top of a skyscraper and take a flying leap?

I'll second that. I suspect that Lovecraft68 is in his cups and feeling sorry for himself this evening.

Wait for it. I sense another Lovecraft68 acid diatribe coming on.

 

[sunandshadow]

The only thing that caught my eye in this whole thread so far is that your join date says 1969... How is it that you acquired a join date that predates the internet, let alone this site?

Oh, lol, people ask me about that all the time. What happened is, everyone who joined the chyoo portion of the site first rather than the main forums, when they got rolled together the join dates were lost or corrupted, and 1969 is what they defaulted to.

 

[tolyk]

Oh, lol, people ask me about that all the time. What happened is, everyone who joined the chyoo portion of the site first rather than the main forums, when they got rolled together the join dates were lost or corrupted, and 1969 is what they defaulted to.

chyoo ? Don't even know what that is

 

[R. Richard]

chyoo ? Don't even know what that is

Simple, when someone says chyoo! You say, gesundheit!

 

[tolyk]

Simple, when someone says chyoo! You say, gesundheit!

That was my first thought, aye

 

[LadyVer]

I was hoping this thread was the AH thread for pics of men.

 

[sunandshadow]

Heh. CHYOO stands for "choose your own orgasm", it was like erotic choose your own adventures. Because of the choose your own adventure mechanics it required a different archive software than the regular literotica stories. I think it can still be used but it hasn't been updated in forever.

 

[StoryOfMy_Life]

I was hoping this thread was the AH thread for pics of men.

I hoped the same thing. I have exhibitionist tendencies. Sadly, I don't think anyone wants to see my adorable little orgasm lever. This thread only reinforces the sad thought.

I'm sure you can find an ample supply of young virile photographic subjects. For absolutely free (no registration) amateur goodness, try here http://www.reddit.com/r/ladybonersgw

There is a companion video chat site as well.

 

[LadyVer]

I hoped the same thing. I have exhibitionist tendencies. Sadly, I don't think anyone wants to see my adorable little orgasm lever. This thread only reinforces the sad thought.

I'm sure you can find an ample supply of young virile photographic subjects. For absolutely free (no registration) amateur goodness, try here http://www.reddit.com/r/ladybonersgw

There is a companion video chat site as well.

Who said I wanted young? I have plenty of pics on a thread somewhere, if the owners didn't go back and remove them...

 

[StoryOfMy_Life]

Who said I wanted young? I have plenty of pics on a thread somewhere, if the owners didn't go back and remove them...

I thought to send a PM to you, but I don't want to be that guy. If you or anyone else is interested in pictures or chat with one of the redundant male Literotica authors, let me know Few things please me more than pleasing a lady. I enjoy a libidinous exchange.

We can start a thread for the purpose or move to a different forum.

 

[LadyVer]

I thought to send a PM to you, but I don't want to be that guy. If you or anyone else is interested in pictures or chat with one of the redundant male Literotica authors, let me know Few things please me more than pleasing a lady. I enjoy a libidinous exchange.

We can start a thread for the purpose of move to a different forum.

Glad you didn't pm me. I've been pm'd out lately. Maybe I'll see you around on this forum or another forum. Forums are a good way to get to know people. Let's see, JBJ told me to FO today, Vette told me I'm a man-hater, Another guy wanted to do a phone chat, which I don't have the time for anyway. I'm currently talking to a young Clint Eastwood. (I'm guessing, haven't seen his pic).

 

[tolyk]

I was hoping this thread was the AH thread for pics of men.

That can be arranged