Ludicrous Green Government at Its Best

[4est_4est_Gump]

You want green energy?

You promote it, you give it tax credits, land favors, guaranteed loans and plain old cash...

Then, when the dream turns out to be less than perfect...

You penalize that which you created...

You're, you see, not to blame...

The thing that matters is...

Your intentions.

WASHINGTON (AP) - A major U.S. power company has pleaded guilty to killing eagles and other birds at two Wyoming wind farms and agreed to pay $1 million as part of the first enforcement of environmental laws protecting birds against wind energy facilities.

Until the settlement announced Friday with Duke Energy Corp. and its renewable energy arm, not a single wind energy company had been prosecuted for a death of an eagle or other protected bird - even though each death is a violation of federal law, unless a company has a federal permit. Not a single wind energy facility has obtained a permit.

The Charlotte, N.C.-based company pleaded guilty to killing 14 eagles and 149 other birds at its Top of the World and Campbell Hill wind farms outside Casper, Wyo. All the deaths, which included golden eagles, hawks, blackbirds, wrens and sparrows, occurred from 2009 to 2013.

"Wind energy is not green if it is killing hundreds of thousands of birds," said George Fenwick, president of the American Bird Conservancy, which supports properly sited wind farms. "The unfortunate reality is that the flagrant violations of the law seen in this case are widespread."

There could be more enforcement. The Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating 18 bird-death cases involving wind-power facilities, and about a half-dozen have been referred to the Justice Department.

Dina Cappiello
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20131123/DAA869M80.html

This is why the Senate went with the Nuclear [energy] option for nominees. Obama intends upon packing all of the Alphabet Agencies with radical Leftists nominees because he was, is and remains exactly what we told you was back in 2008 when you fell in love with him because he was bright, clean, articulate, and most importantly of all, black, a dedicated radical Leftist Marxist/Socialist/Progress/Pragmatic Centrist (you pick your favorite label for Altruistic Crusader/Interventionist). Look for more of this kind of wackadoodle shit as long as you keep doing stupid shit like voting blindly for your single issues such as abortion, the environment and Social Justice.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Mr. Carter, take down that solar panel.

Same as it ever was.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Mr. Carter, take down that solar panel.

Same as it ever was.

Clever


We have to get them from China thanks to Solyndra!

They'd be sued for frying birds if they had not gone bust with house money...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

You will submit, or else:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=411736&stc=1&d=1312315163

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I prefer the Russian model when it comes to spy versus spy.



Remember the red head?


Yummm...

 

[Ishmael]

Who didn't see this one coming?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Who didn't see this one coming?

Ishmael

The Eagles and the Falcons?

 

[Ishmael]

The Eagles and the Falcons?

Obviously, dumb birds. Looks as if a shit pot full of bats are getting whacked in the more southern climes as well, apparently they don't have side looking sonar.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Unintended consequences have a way of biting the ass that proposes...

 

[Ishmael]

Unintended consequences have a way of biting the ass that proposes...

They never get it through their fucking heads, no matter how much you try to warn them. It's a blindness of sorts.

I can see the proposals now. "You must build huge 'fan guards' around the blades." That shouldn't reduce the efficiency any more than 50% or so.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If we save just one bird it is worth it, after all, a nation as rich as ours can afford it, can't afford NOT to do it, and we cannot have the likes of the Netherlands and Sweden laughing at us...

 

[renard_ruse]

Green energy is a scam to make money for politicians' friends and cronies.

 

[renard_ruse]

They never get it through their fucking heads, no matter how much you try to warn them. It's a blindness of sorts.

I can see the proposals now. "You must build huge 'fan guards' around the blades." That shouldn't reduce the efficiency any more than 50% or so.

Ishmael

I support efforts to protect wildlife. There's no reason it can't be made just as efficient with fan guards as without. If we can put a billion transistors on a piece of silicon smaller than a fingernail, we can figure out how to protect wildlife without hurting efficiency.

 

[renard_ruse]

I think some are confusing the green energy scam with alternative energy. The Green Scam, based on the myth of man-made global warming is phony environmentalism motivated by politics. Looking at alternative energy sources pre-dates the Green Scam by many decades. Alternative energy is a good idea, the Green Scam is not.

The politicians and companies pushing the Green Scam don't care about the environment, its a means 1) to concentrate more power not only in domestic governments but in the UN and supra-national bodies, and 2) to enrich themselves and their friends.

I'm a longtime environmentalist (one of a few issues I lean to the left on). It took me a while to realize that the global warming hoax is a deliberate scam. The worst thing about it is that it detracts attention from real environmental threats around the world.

 

[SeaDaddy1]

While we're at it, why don't we start fining companies who put up tall buildings for premeditated murder of birds that fly into them?

 

[Ishmael]

I support efforts to protect wildlife. There's no reason it can't be made just as efficient with fan guards as without. If we can put a billion transistors on a piece of silicon smaller than a fingernail, we can figure out how to protect wildlife without hurting efficiency.

Well, yes there is. It's called the laws of physics.

Ishmael

 

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[phrodeau]

163 birds from two wind farms becomes hundreds of thousands when multiplied by what?

OK, giant fans can kill flying birds. So can transparent glass. When will the bans start?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It is like ethanol. Libs and Big Red Farming loved it. It was very green.


Problem is, they plowed up a lot of habitat and took food off the menu which hurt the poor little creatures and the poor...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Energy Secretary Stephen Chu, the man overseeing the Obama administration's subsidies and loan guarantees to purportedly "green" enterprises, has another giant failure on his hands. Professor Chu, who has a Nobel Prize in Physics under his belt, is an excellent example of the danger of academic blindness, an affliction that has reached epidemic proportions in the Obama administration. AB, as we may call it, renders people with excessive pride in their intellects incapable of recognizing practical constraints. Zack Colman of the Washington Examiner reports:

The Energy Department is taking a $139 million loss on a loan to struggling electric car-maker Fisker Automotive after it found an investor to take a portion of an outstanding loan.

The agreement between the Energy Department and Hybrid Technology reached Friday is a step in an eventual deal to transfer Fisker's assets, which includes Hybrid Technology assuming roughly $170 million of the federal loan, to a subsidiary of the firm. Fisker filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection as part of the arrangement.

Keep in mind that Fisker Karma, like the Tesla electric cars, is a plaything of the rich, far too expensive for ordinary Americans to afford. Featuring elegant styling and coachwork, the Karma was nothing more than a means for the economic elite to display their moral vanity (and get access to diamond lanes on crowded California freeways, zipping past the proles stuck in traffic because they aren't carpooling and can't afford a hundred grand or so for a rich man's toy).

In a just world, arrogant academics like Chu would be held responsible for the billions of dollars seized from taxpayers that they have squandered. Alas, it will be in another world that Chu's and Obama's karma catches up to them, as their and our chidren and grandchildren struggle to pay back the debts thay have incurred.

Thomas Lifson

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...obama_administration_dogma.html#ixzz2lZ6lI9ZB

 

[SeaDaddy1]

I honestly didn't think it would go this far.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Deep down, they have this childish dream of a Return of the Primitive where everyone lives in a little cottage On Walden Pond in perfect green innocence and harmony with nature taking less from the land than they return...

A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States...,
John P. Holdren
White House Office of Science and Technology Director

“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
Obama Energy Secretary Steven Chu

 

[Ishmael]

Dead bats, dead bats.

Ishmael

 

[rosco rathbone]

It's all bollocks anyway, in 20 years all the old 60s anti nuke hippies will be pushing up daisies and nuclear will be re-defined as green.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Maybe we should "invest" heavily in cold fusion...