Boss-Employee Gap Legislation

[Recidiva]

Just knowing the gap isn't enough. Place limitations on it... 100 or 150x should be the highest amount anyone working with that company (even by proxy) can be paid.

If you're paying workers in china .17 an hour, the most you should be able to make is $17 an hour... something like that.

I think it would establish a healthy company indicator. "We make enough money to pay everybody proportionally well."

That's the point of a company. "We Make Money."

It shouldn't all go to the stockholders or the owner. That makes it unsustainable and abusive.

Ideally everybody makes enough money and the owner of the company owns one less island. So maybe they have four islands, not five.

I'm not saying they should be paid the same, the owner takes the risks and puts up the capital. But it shouldn't be insane, some of the proportions are 300x more.

 

[jeninflorida]

Just knowing the gap isn't enough. Place limitations on it... 100 or 150x should be the highest amount anyone working with that company (even by proxy) can be paid.

If you're paying workers in china .17 an hour by hiring another company to do your dirty work, the most you should be able to make is $17 an hour... something like that.

Spoken from a complete fucking welfare idiot...sad dick, sad

 

[jeninflorida]

Simple solution...get a better job!


/end thread

 

[jeninflorida]

I think it would establish a healthy company indicator. "We make enough money to pay everybody proportionally well."

That's the point of a company. "We Make Money."

It shouldn't all go to the stockholders or the owner. That makes it unsustainable and abusive.

Ideally everybody makes enough money and the owner of the company owns one less island. So maybe they have four islands, not five.

I'm not saying they should be paid the same, the owner takes the risks and puts up the capital. But it shouldn't be insane, some of the proportions are 300x more.

Wow, when did you become a quitter?

 

[richard_daily]

I think it would establish a healthy company indicator. "We make enough money to pay everybody proportionally well."

That's the point of a company. "We Make Money."

It shouldn't all go to the stockholders or the owner. That makes it unsustainable and abusive.

Ideally everybody makes enough money and the owner of the company owns one less island. So maybe they have four islands, not five.

I'm not saying they should be paid the same, the owner takes the risks and puts up the capital. But it shouldn't be insane, some of the proportions are 300x more.

WAY more than 300x. Take The CEO of Nike vs. what they pay people making the shoes... it's closer to 20,000x.

The Nike CEO got paid 15.4 million last year. The average person making their shoes gets paid about $2.86 a day. Let's assume that they work every single day of the year without break, and don't have to pay any taxes, that's going to be $897

Using those numbers, that would mean that the CEO of Nike gets paid 17168.33 times the amount that the average worker making Nike shoes makes.

 

[Recidiva]

WAY more than 300x. Take The CEO of Nike vs. what they pay people making the shoes... it's closer to 20,000x.

The Nike CEO got paid 15.4 million last year. The average person making their shoes gets paid about $2.86 a day. Let's assume that they work every single day of the year without break, and don't have to pay any taxes, that's going to be $897

Using those numbers, that would mean that the CEO of Nike gets paid 17168.33 times the amount that the average worker making Nike shoes makes.

Yes, of course you can get away with it.

HOWEVER. If you are purposely predating on vulnerable populaces in your own country or leaving it to find more vulnerable people, I get to point that out and call an asshole an asshole.

 

[jeninflorida]

WAY more than 300x. Take The CEO of Nike vs. what they pay people making the shoes... it's closer to 20,000x.

The Nike CEO got paid 15.4 million last year. The average person making their shoes gets paid about $2.86 a day. Let's assume that they work every single day of the year without break, and don't have to pay any taxes, that's going to be $897

Using those numbers, that would mean that the CEO of Nike gets paid 17168.33 times the amount that the average worker making Nike shoes makes.

Holly fuck dick....you are stupid.

Do you not realize the cost of living difference for the perso. Earning $2 a day?

Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you and your kind?

 

[richard_daily]

Yes, of course you can get away with it.

HOWEVER. If you are purposely predating on vulnerable populaces in your own country or leaving it to find more vulnerable people, I get to point that out and call an asshole an asshole.

Forget calling them an asshole, boycott their products and speak with your wallet.

 

[richard_daily]

Holly fuck dick....you are stupid.

Do you not realize the cost of living difference for the perso. Earning $2 a day?

Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you and your kind?

Are you implying it's close to 20,000x different?

Please calculate the difference in the cost of living for me...

 

[jeninflorida]

Wow this has become the ...we need welfare ...thread



Babbies need a tit to suck on?


Get a differnet job....assnuts

 

[jeninflorida]

Are you implying it's close to 20,000x different?

Please calculate the difference in the cost of living for me...

Who cares about the ceo pay...is the company in business? Is the company profitable? Are the bills being paid!

 

[Recidiva]

Forget calling them an asshole, boycott their products and speak with your wallet.

I do. I am not the most awesomest consciousest person ever, but I do think you need to pay attention to what damage a company is doing to others in order to gain personal benefit.

This is comparable to the guys who had mines and miners who lived in camps who were paid by company scrip and couldn't leave because they couldn't buy anything and if they organized someone would pay for Pinkertons to kill a few people.

People in poverty have extraordinarily few options without education. Since we don't educate adults and we have a great deal of the populace at poverty level and trapped there, although the potential is there to move up but also the potential is there to just continue to be abusive, I think this is a reasonable barometer to establish and use as criteria for investment and in critical review of a company's service compared to their labor force.

It is ridiculous to believe that the "Free Market" will be ethical. It will grab as much as it can in an opportunistic Darwinian way.

So as part of that market I can try to support measures that aren't unrealistic, but are effective. This would be one of them.

Occasionally predators are brought down by a pack of irritated prey. Deal with it.

 

[CandiCame]

Holly fuck dick....you are stupid.

Do you not realize the cost of living difference for the perso. Earning $2 a day?

Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you and your kind?

Read "Factory Girls". It's actually a really good book on the subject, though it stays on the topic of the nicer, Chinese sweatshops and not those kids who are out picking coca beans for Nestle. The (short) answer is that their cost of living is not that much different from ours, so they're forced into overcrowded dormitories because they can't afford an actual place to live. It's pretty fucked up. The whole time I was reading it I was like, "Why don't you chicks just rob them blind?"

And then I realized that every time it listed a person who didn't want to give her name, she had robbed the company blind. People do that to get by, but don't want to talk about it, because obviously, it's illegal.

Also, they hold your measly wages back for a month, so if you want to leave, you wind up not getting paid for your last three months.

These are the nice sweatshops.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And you don't think that's morally objectable?

If you mean that business is for profit fuck no..

That 1st world life is only possible b/c we do so at the cost of employing 3rd world shit holes for 1/10th the cost we could hire a privileged american kid at best?

No....I enjoy my computer,car,clothing, fridge, phone, etc. all made possible by poor as brown/yellow people so I could be a privileged ass american. I know it's the only reason I have a pot to piss in and if that's the cost of living the privileged life that we do here in M'urikuh then I'll own every bit of it.

Noted and...*shrug*

If you see no value in honest business practices and you're okay with slavery so you get stuff cheap that's up to you. I object.

Oh so you must have never bought ANYTHING made in China, central/south America, Thailand, Taiwan or Korea right???

Never eaten any food processed by illegal/cheap labor??

Yea that's what the fuck I thought.....the only reason anyone in any 1st world country lives the way they do is b/c of
http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2012-03-08/econ_china11__01__630x420.jpg

So get the fuck off your high horse b/c you do too.

And I disagree with WalMart and so do many people and without them this law probably wouldn't exist.

Doesn't matter....bottom line is they feed/clothe/supply most poor people in this nation, they employ a good portion of them too and they do BIG business....BIG business....if wal mart vanished the poor people of the US would be in a world of hurt, so much so the rich would probably flee for their lives.

 

[CandiCame]

http://kimbofo.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bcff69e20148c667838d970c-300wi

This is the book I'm talking about.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Forget calling them an asshole, boycott their products and speak with your wallet.

There it is....

 

[Recidiva]

If you mean that business is for profit fuck no..

That 1st world life is only possible b/c we do so at the cost of employing 3rd world shit holes for 1/10th the cost we could hire a privileged american kid?

No....I enjoy my computer,car,clothing, fridge, phone, etc. all made possible by poor as brown/yellow people so I could be a privileged ass american. I know it's the only reason I have a pot to piss in and if that's the cost of living the privileged life that we do here in M'urikuh then I'll own every bit of it.

Oh so you must have never bought ANYTHING made in China, central/south America, Thailand, Taiwan or Korea right???

Never eaten any food processed by illegal/cheap labor??

Yea that's what the fuck I thought.....the only reason anyone in any 1st world country lives the way they do is b/c of
http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2012-03-08/econ_china11__01__630x420.jpg

So get the fuck off your high horse b/c you do too.

Doesn't matter....bottom line is they feed/clothe/supply most poor people in this nation, they employ a good portion of them too and they do BIG business....BIG business....if wal mart vanished the poor people of the US would be in a world of hurt, so much so the rich would probably flee for their lives.

Botany, I occasionally think about others. That whole post was about you. I am not thinking about you, but others. This is not about you or me.

This is about how I think that other people are accountable and I can support making them accountable.

If you want to be overtly selfish, fine. If you want to extend it to where I'm somehow selfish and hurting the big bad WalMart with my icky conscience, then that's where my interest in your opinion ends.

 

[CandiCame]

If you mean that business is for profit fuck no..

That 1st world life is only possible b/c we do so at the cost of employing 3rd world shit holes for 1/10th the cost we could hire a privileged american kid?

No....I enjoy my computer,car,clothing, fridge, phone, etc. all made possible by poor as brown/yellow people so I could be a privileged ass american. I know it's the only reason I have a pot to piss in and if that's the cost of living the privileged life that we do here in M'urikuh then I'll own every bit of it.



Oh so you must have never bought ANYTHING made in China, central/south America, Thailand, Taiwan or Korea right???

Never eaten any food processed by illegal/cheap labor??

Yea that's what the fuck I thought.....the only reason anyone in any 1st world country lives the way they do is b/c of
http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2012-03-08/econ_china11__01__630x420.jpg

So get the fuck off your high horse b/c you do too.



Doesn't matter....bottom line is they feed/clothe/supply most poor people in this nation, they employ a good portion of them too and they do BIG business....BIG business....if wal mart vanished the poor people of the US would be in a world of hurt, so much so the rich would probably flee for their lives.

The fact that that's the way it is doesn't make it ok. I absolutely am willing to give up some of my wealth so that people in other countries can have basic things like clean water. I've talked about this before. I don't buy things that are made by slave labor. I don't eat factory farm food. I volunteer for charities and send what little I can to places like "Under One Sky" or "Project Heifer" because not doing so is ridiculous. I'm a bad person. I am flat broke by American standards- well under the poverty line, and I can do basic shit like that. So anyone can.

 

[CandiCame]

Botany, I occasionally think about others. That whole post was about you. I am not thinking about you, but others. This is not about you or me.

This is about how I think that other people are accountable and I can support making them accountable.

If you want to be overtly selfish, fine. If you want to extend it to where I'm somehow selfish and hurting the big bad WalMart with my icky conscience, then that's where my interest in your opinion ends.

He's right tho. If you buy things made with sweatshop labor, you are selfish. You're getting something cheap on the backs of others. We live in a capitalist society. You're telling those companies that what they are doing is ok.

 

[richard_daily]

Who cares about the ceo pay...is the company in business? Is the company profitable? Are the bills being paid!

So you can't figure out basic math?

Did you go to public school jenin? Maybe that's why your writing is so horrible?

 

[bg23]

The absolute bare minimum it should be is $10.74 by our own logic, that demands laws keep with inflation, but if we don't want to be complete dicks about it most financial analysts say it should be between $14-$20.

http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/facts/

http://www.epi.org/publication/declining-federal-minimum-wage-inequality/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/minimum-wage-productivity_n_2680639.html

This is actually a huge problem in our country right now. It's not like there aren't people out there monitoring how bad we fuck up.

That, and Walmart is paying people so little that it's not enough for them to live off - which means the government is subsidizing the cost of people's living.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/walmart-taxpayers-house-report_n_3365814.html

It boggles me, completely, how anyone can see that is NOT a problem, and that they're NOT paying people too little.

 

[jeninflorida]

You are attacking the problem the wrong way....

First we must change American public culture and rewards....short term gains must be stopped. American corporation must think and plan more long term and skip this qtr by qtr bullshit...

What a ceo earns is really none of your fucking business reviva, UD, and dick.

Dont buy the priduct and stop shopping at wal mart....

You fucking idiots are like GM workers driving a new Kia

 

[jeninflorida]

So you can't figure out basic math?

Did you go to public school jenin? Maybe that's why your writing is so horrible?

Here is some simple math....fuck you

 

[CandiCame]

That, and Walmart is paying people so little that it's not enough for them to live off - which means the government is subsidizing the cost of people's living.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/walmart-taxpayers-house-report_n_3365814.html

It boggles me, completely, how anyone can see that is NOT a problem, and that they're NOT paying people too little.

I didn't know there were people who thought it wasn't a problem.

 

[richard_daily]

Here is some simple math....fuck you

No thanks, I'm not into dudes.