Crimes of Passion

[Sean]

There was a guy I knew on the internet when I was in my 20s. Good gamer, tough talker, smart and funny. Ran a BDSM bondage sideline of cyber. The kinda guy that when someone was threatening to come to my house and rape me, would say "Hah. Tell him you don't think he could get you off."

He had a cover story that he was in his 30s but had confessed to one nice lady that he was only 14 or so at the time. He and I became involved online and although I knew how old he was, he didn't confess it for a few months, after which time I just said "Yes, I know."

I did get to meet him when his family traveled near to where I lived, we met and fooled around a bit in the front seat of a car. I think he was 16 at the time.

Seriously, I couldn't have corrupted this guy, if anything I rehabilitated him.

And that is, pretty much word for word, the excuse you hear from every convicted paedophile.

 

[SalviaDivinorum]

He got to see that he could just be who he was and somebody would like him for his wit and not his sexual favors. That I didn't slap him down for his age or want him around because he would perform for me.

And why would a 14 year old expect to have to dole out sexual favours?

 

[Recidiva]

You are unfuckingbelievable.

First of many things I've seen in just two of your posts: you'd be laughing with the kid about bg's reaction but now you "may have but can't say for sure" how much you fucked him up.

I repeat....unbelievable. STFU for a change and think about what you are saying & doing. Jesus H. Christ.

You did him some good?!!!

My reaction to BG was to her passive aggressive bullshit about shooting myself. It was misinformed and clumsy and he would have done much better and flayed the everloving shit out of me had he tried to cut me down.

Evesdream is irritated if I talk about it or if I don't talk about it. If I answer questions I suck, if I don't answer questions I'm hiding. Give me a damned break. You don't give a shit about this kid, nobody here gave a shit about this kid or any of the anonymous bullshit posters online even here on this site as long as they don't KNOW they're underage we can pretend there's a straight line where you can tell who is young and who is not.

I'm not trying to win, I'm trying to answer questions to people who want to know answers rather than just decide what happened because you don't like my answers.

If I'm not allowed a nuanced view and special circumstances than slap a big "P" on me and I don't really give a damn one way or the other that Alabama thinks I should "pay" for something that happened 20 years ago.

 

[Recidiva]

And that is, pretty much word for word, the excuse you hear from every convicted paedophile.

Except I couldn't be convicted of pedophilia as I never had sex with the person in question.

 

[Recidiva]

And why would a 14 year old expect to have to dole out sexual favours?

He'd been doing it for years before I got there, I didn't ask how he got started because I avoided the subject.

 

[alabama]

I'm not, I just don't have a time machine and I can't fix it.

It's done and I did it. If people choose to believe I'm a predatory maniac who goes out victimizing young men, there's really not much I can do about that.

I can only imagine the things you'd be saying if this was any MAN on this board (or anywhere) who'd done the same thing. You'd be up so high on your horse you'd need an oxygen tank to breathe. You fucked up. You were involved with a child KNOWINGLY. you think people's reactions are funny and that you DID THE CHILD GOOD. What does that make you? A social worker? No. It makes you an adult who did something illegal(possibly), wrong, damaging ETC ETC and now you are rationalizing and excusing it.

 

[Sean]

Except I couldn't be convicted of pedophilia as I never had sex with the person in question.

Just like Bill Clinton never had sex with Monica, right? You said you "fooled around in a car". That's sexual activity, or were you just playing Pokemon?

 

[alabama]

Just like Bill Clinton never had sex with Monica, right? You said you "fooled around in a car". That's sexual activity, or were you just playing Pokemon?

It was a part of his rehabilitation.

 

[Recidiva]

Just like Bill Clinton never had sex with Monica, right? You said you "fooled around in a car". That's sexual activity, or were you just playing Pokemon?

Other than hugging and being foolish in a "it's goofy to drive an hour to say hi during halftime of a football game" and take each other's pictures and make dumb faces, no.

I'm going to get slammed for backtracking and that's okay, it was a poor choice of words with sexual connotations I didn't earn.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Can someone tell me why she's being given a pass on this?

Cuz it common, even you do it.

 

[Recidiva]

I can only imagine the things you'd be saying if this was any MAN on this board (or anywhere) who'd done the same thing. You'd be up so high on your horse you'd need an oxygen tank to breathe. You fucked up. You were involved with a child KNOWINGLY. you think people's reactions are funny and that you DID THE CHILD GOOD. What does that make you? A social worker? No. It makes you an adult who did something illegal(possibly), wrong, damaging ETC ETC and now you are rationalizing and excusing it.

Okay. What was illegal about what I did, exactly, not from your imagination, but from reality. Please be clear.

Alarming, yes. Misguided, yes. Illegal, no.

 

[IndieSnob]

I really wish I could laugh at this, but anytime a child is involved, I just can't.

No matter how you try to explain it away, at the end of the day you're nothing but someone who committed a sex crime with a minor. You can say oh it wasn't all the way, you wish you could undo it...you did it. It's not like this was some pack of bubblegum you stole. It has ramifications to this day, whether you think so or not.

You disgust me.

 

[Aquagal]

Okay. What was illegal about what I did, exactly, not from your imagination, but from reality. Please be clear.

Alarming, yes. Misguided, yes. Illegal, no.

Did you exchange sexual pictures, emails?

I think the doling out sexual favors for years beforehand would be a big red flag on there being some abuse, damage, done previously.

 

[alabama]

Okay. What was illegal about what I did, exactly, not from your imagination, but from reality. Please be clear.

Alarming, yes. Misguided, yes. Illegal, no.

You fooled around with a minor. You say 16 so depending on age if consent, what REALLY happened and their actual age, it is exactly what I said. POSSIBLY ILLEGAL.

Keep backtracking, justifying, clarifying, rationalizing and all the other ings you possess in that overly large and overused vocabulary of yours to make yourself feel better about what happened.

 

[Killswitch]

Here comes the high horse never did a fucking thing wrong in their lives crowd.

You can smell them sniffing out a thread like this for days.

 

[Recidiva]

Did you exchange sexual pictures, emails?

I think the doling out sexual favors for years beforehand would be a big red flag on there being some abuse, damage, done previously.

No, nothing like that. Emails and some phone calls and just roleplay on MUDs.

We mostly killed things.

Possibly, but again, I avoided that subject.

 

[Recidiva]

You fooled around with a minor. You say 16 so depending on age if consent, what REALLY happened and their actual age, it is exactly what I said. POSSIBLY ILLEGAL.

Keep backtracking, justifying, clarifying, rationalizing and all the other ings you possess in that overly large and overused vocabulary of yours to make yourself feel better about what happened.

Yes, and no matter what I say, you're going to believe the worst of it, so if you can trust when I say what happened when you don't like it, but you don't like it when I say you misinterpreted or I misspoke, then there's not much I can do about that and it's okay if you think I'm lower than whale shit.

 

[IndieSnob]

Here comes the high horse never did a fucking thing wrong in their lives crowd.

You can smell them sniffing out a thread like this for days.

Ahahahahahaha. Especially coming from you, this is rich.

There is doing something wrong, and then there is doing some that is absolutely reprehensibly wrong. If you can't see the difference...oh wait, it is you we're talking about here.

 

[Killswitch]

Ahahahahahaha. Especially coming from you, this is rich.

There is doing something wrong, and then there is doing some that is absolutely reprehensibly wrong. If you can't see the difference...oh wait, it is you we're talking about here.

A 20 something slept with a 16 year old. Ohhhh. Stop the world. Thats so reprehensible I want to get off.

Whatever. Make yourself feel better and say it stinks...lol

Whatever gets you off.

 

[Recidiva]

A 20 something slept with a 16 year old. Ohhhh. Stop the world. Thats so reprehensible I want to get off.

Whatever. Make yourself feel better and say it stinks...lol

Whatever gets you off.

I didn't actually sleep with him.

I don't mind the condemnation. I'd rather that if people thought I did it, that they followed their conscience.

I don't want to be the flagship of "It's okay, go ahead and do it!"

It was a mistake, but I'm the sum of my choices. I've done dumb shit. I've broken laws, I've been stupid.

If someone thought I was perfect or thought I thought I was perfect, best they shun me anyway. I'm going to disappoint them.

 

[IndieSnob]

A 20 something slept with a 16 year old. Ohhhh. Stop the world. Thats so reprehensible I want to get off.

Whatever. Make yourself feel better and say it stinks...lol

Whatever gets you off.

I'm glad to know that you'd have no problem if you had a 16 year old daughter that you'd have no problem with her sleeping with a guy who was in his 20s.

Oh wait, would it not be OK since the genders were reversed?

Whatever gets me off? Sure isn't thinking about someone not of age doing anything sexually related with a minor. I'm sure that gets you off though. Wouldn't surprise me given all the shit you hide in your closet.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm glad to know that you'd have no problem if you had a 16 year old daughter that you'd have no problem with her sleeping with a guy who was in his 20s.

Oh wait, would it not be OK since the genders were reversed?

Whatever gets me off? Sure isn't thinking about someone not of age doing anything sexually related with a minor. I'm sure that gets you off though. Wouldn't surprise me given all the shit you hide in your closet.

Youre jealous no one ever wanted you.

 

[alabama]

A 20 something slept with a 16 year old. Ohhhh. Stop the world. Thats so reprehensible I want to get off.

Whatever. Make yourself feel better and say it stinks...lol

Whatever gets you off.

Yes, KS, that is wrong. Even when the older party is a woman.

If a 20something year old man slept with my 16 year old self that would be wrong. Very wrong.

My moral compass does NOT point due north so anytime something registers as fucked up on my radar, it usually is.

 

[IndieSnob]

Youre jealous no one ever wanted you.

Yes, that's exactly it.

 

[Killswitch]

Yes, KS, that is wrong. Even when the older party is a woman.

If a 20something year old man slept with my 16 year old self that would be wrong. Very wrong.

My moral compass does NOT point due north so anytime something registers as fucked up on my radar, it usually is.

It's small potatoes.

How you doin.