Poetry Assessor

[twelveoone]

Poetry Assessor

Who beat the Raven? that clocked in at .5

well Angeline, greenmountainguy and Demure (I think) and me. Scores between .8 and 1.0 So far, so good, maybe. Veracity test. The Sonnet part of Mythos is in near Plathville (2.53) with a score of 2.3. I think it likes Dogs, dogs are good in poetry.
I read the thesis, one of the papers. Statistical size is rather low. 100 Pros vs 100 amateurs. And if I read it right, an error rate of 20%. On the plus side no ANON Adjustment. On the negative side, it doesn't allow for cliches in the calculations.
Fun, run one of yours, and then stick Dogs in, watch it skyrocket.

 

[Remec]

Looks intriguing. I only tried two of mine, so far, and they both came in at .4. Will have to play with it some more when I get a chance.

 

[HarryHill]

It must be really screwed up KS(luts)FOS scored 1.5...KD(ogs)FOS scored 1.6
a one word change

 

[butters]

brothers in arms before angie's fix 0.9, after the fix 0.6 - wtf? a change of 'not once they were' to 'ill used by time' and it drops o.3 of a score. *shakes head*

ok, i know you said 'stick one of yours in' but it was fun playing with it, so:

nano clams and other molluscs - 0.4

and you and you and you 1.1

a study in light and shade 1.8



follows on -0.0 ha!

uninvited 0.9

who wants to live forever 2.3


there've been some -0.4's and -0.2/3's

 

[champagne1982]

Why Mormons Don't Dance got a 3.0 and Real Critics Don't Buy Tickets pulled a 2.4

I know word count's important but I didn't bother rolling mine through MS Word for a quick count. Maybe later.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

I got a 3.1 with Woodlander Sacrifice but a lot of mine are too short to calculate properly!

 

[HarryHill]

This might be the best thread you ever started.

 

[Desejo]

I put a couple of mine in-- all place me squarely in the amateur label. Where I belong, clearly.

That said, I do wonder why poetry needs to be "scientific". Don't we have enough of that in our lives as is? There is not a single day when someone is not showing me a chart, map, survey or some "proof" of their favorite issue.

 

[butters]

I put a couple of mine in-- all place me squarely in the amateur label. Where I belong, clearly.

That said, I do wonder why poetry needs to be "scientific". Don't we have enough of that in our lives as is? There is not a single day when someone is not showing me a chart, map, survey or some "proof" of their favorite issue.

i wouldn't trust that thing to tell me a good poem from a poor one, but then that's not exactly what it sets out to do. and since it's all based on 200 poems, i question its value. a lot. as for you being 'amateur', who here gets paid to write poetry? anyone? not me.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

i wouldn't trust that thing to tell me a good poem from a poor one, but then that's not exactly what it sets out to do. and since it's all based on 200 poems, i question its value. a lot. as for you being 'amateur', who here gets paid to write poetry? anyone? not me.

Just my luck to have a 'talent' that doesn't pay well! Why couldn't I have been dealt the card of being an opera singer?!

 

[butters]

Just my luck to have a 'talent' that doesn't pay well! Why couldn't I have been dealt the card of being an opera singer?!

or computer analyst!

 

[twelveoone]

i wouldn't trust that thing to tell me a good poem from a poor one, but then that's not exactly what it sets out to do. and since it's all based on 200 poems, i question its value. a lot. as for you being 'amateur', who here gets paid to write poetry? anyone? not me.

Read the thesis. Professional are contemporary. Amateurs are usually about 150 years behind.
Bias downwards towards perfect end rhyme, alliterations; which amateurs use (starting tools). Abstraction downward, which, although I am not a total fiend about it, should be used with extreme caution.
Meter not accounted for, i.e. too complex, (Metre and rhythm are too different animals as I been saying for years). I was just joking about dogs.
What is interesting is word choice, a word like "perch" is scored better than "stand" if used in the same context (i.e. not a fish).
They do an assumption on cliches, in that is should show up in more common word choice, a bit of a no brainier there.

What is interesting is it uses 100 variables and does do some weighing. Right now, I still trying to get some of the papers.

As is, it is fun, would be interesting to run Keats through it, as one of the papers it is based on, was written by a truth and beauty school fan.

Just another one of my tiring posts about valued perspective. If you can't trust yourself to move two steps over from time to time, who do you trust?
Trust no one!

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

I must be really bad - it won't even look at mine.

 

[butters]

I must be really bad - it won't even look at mine.

didya break it?

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

didya break it?

The poet before me must have.....

 

[twelveoone]

I must be really bad - it won't even look at mine.

I know this don't mean much, but perhaps yours are fit for better eyes. But since you are here, a confession, I do like non linear better, but of the linear writers, I probably like you best, yours are layered, and slightly off. These is a thing you do that is consistently "wrong" (as some might see it), however, it is always done in the right place. And that, babe, is poetry. Or at least as I see it.

 

[todski28]

Tried three of my tavvy tales they all rated at 1.3, tried Taste it got a 1.6, I think this thing is miles out of whack! tried my newest piece taking the boss
-1.6

 

[twelveoone]

Tried three of my tavvy tales they all rated at 1.3, tried Taste it got a 1.6, I think this thing is miles out of whack! tried my newest piece taking the boss
-1.6

that neg I would take serious, try rewriting it with a couple of dogs, or better yet dogs coupling
I know you have to crack the OED for that one, try this:
dogs begatting all over the outback

 

[todski28]

that neg I would take serious, try rewriting it with a couple of dogs, or better yet dogs coupling
I know you have to crack the OED for that one, try this:
dogs begatting all over the outback

Wow thanks for the advice I will get in the edit now

In the midst of blue 1.5

 

[HarryHill]

&tipoem

no

score 2.5
.............
&tipoem2

no dogs

score 2.5

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

I know this don't mean much, but perhaps yours are fit for better eyes. But since you are here, a confession, I do like non linear better, but of the linear writers, I probably like you best, yours are layered, and slightly off. These is a thing you do that is consistently "wrong" (as some might see it), however, it is always done in the right place. And that, babe, is poetry. Or at least as I see it.

Thank you, twelveoone, I think.

 

[bronzeage]

Read the thesis. Professional are contemporary. Amateurs are usually about 150 years behind.
Bias downwards towards perfect end rhyme, alliterations; which amateurs use (starting tools). Abstraction downward, which, although I am not a total fiend about it, should be used with extreme caution.
Meter not accounted for, i.e. too complex, (Metre and rhythm are too different animals as I been saying for years). I was just joking about dogs.
What is interesting is word choice, a word like "perch" is scored better than "stand" if used in the same context (i.e. not a fish).
They do an assumption on cliches, in that is should show up in more common word choice, a bit of a no brainier there.

What is interesting is it uses 100 variables and does do some weighing. Right now, I still trying to get some of the papers.

As is, it is fun, would be interesting to run Keats through it, as one of the papers it is based on, was written by a truth and beauty school fan.

Just another one of my tiring posts about valued perspective. If you can't trust yourself to move two steps over from time to time, who do you trust?
Trust no one!

That explained why a verse from Milton only scratched .08.

 

[twelveoone]

That explained why a verse from Milton only scratched .08.

no dog?

 

[HarryHill]

Link is broken now. curiosity

 

[butters]

&tipoem

no

score 2.5
.............
&tipoem2

no dogs

score 2.5

hhahahahahaha