The New Hate

[BotanyBoy]

Since I'm sure this truce will be over when one of us goes to sleep we should probably secure the movie rights to our buddy cop flick now. You can even be the guy who ends the movie throwing the grenade into the room with me and Miles, Pabo and Jen. The ending lines go like this.

Sean R: How'd you know I'd be in the safe?

Bot: I didn't.

Sean R:. . .no seriously. How'd you know I'd be okay when you blew up the entire fucking room?

Bot: I was kinda hoping you wouldn't, I really want to drive the Porsche.

Sean R: That shit's not funny!

Bot: Am I laughing?

This is right after I interrupt youz guyz's srs bznz moment with a hearty

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Right? Oh please tell me I get to scream

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I like this buddy cop movie idea....maybe I won't be such a pendejo in the AM

 

[Sean Renaud]

You can totally scream Freeze Mother Bitches but then you have to remember that we're singing "War, what is it good for?" when we're walking off into the sunset.

I just looked up at the thread name. I think two of us are very, very confused.

 

[run_silent]

I just finished The New Hate: A History of Fear and Loathing on the Populist Right, by Arthur Goldwag (Jew). A fascinating study that covers the whole history of paranoid irrationality in American politics and culture, mostly RW, but not sparing black separatism, etc. Despite the title, his point is that the New Hate is not all that "new" after all. He sees a lot of common memes and themes in all past forms of it, mostly the ones Richard Hosftadter identified, regardless of whether the demonized all-powerful Other is the Jews, Freemasons, Catholics, Illuminati, atheists/secularists, intellectuals, Communists, capitalists, bankers, whites, nonwhites, immigrants, or (as is not seldom the case) some combination of the foregoing.

He concludes:

Aren't you making the same base conclusion as the writer does? Only you put the shoe on the other foot. You seem to know how each and everyone that disagrees with you will act.

I call shenanigans.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You can totally scream Freeze Mother Bitches but then you have to remember that we're singing "War, what is it good for?" when we're walking off into the sunset.

I just looked up at the thread name. I think two of us are very, very confused.

Oh I'm Korean and your black...If I play Jackie Chan and you play Chris Tucker....does that make us racist?

Very confused.....

 

[Sean Renaud]

Oh I'm Korean and your black...If I play Jackie Chan and you play Chris Tucker....does that make us racist?

Very confused.....

That depends entirely on if you touch my radio while I'm listening to Micheal Jackson. In which case yes. We are racist, but it'll be hilarious.

 

[KingOrfeo]

N.B.: A conspiracy theorist is not someone who theorizes that there are conspiracies. There are conspiracies, every time two or more people communicate in furtherance of a criminal enterprise. The common law has provisions for dealing with it; the law of conspiracy predates American independence.

Conspiracy theories are much more all-encompassing. They imagine dark secretive forces, in some cases persisting over centuries, behind everything that goes wrong in life, pulling strings from behind the scenes, causing wars and depressions and revolutions and even apparent natural disasters for their own nefarious or deluded ends.

Some choice bits from Hofstadter's 1964 essay:

The paranoid spokesman, sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms — he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization... he does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated — if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.[1]

<snip>

The enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman — sinister, ubiquitous, powerful, cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He wills, indeed, he manufactures, the mechanism of history, or tries to deflect the normal course of history in an evil way. He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced. The paranoid’s interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone’s will. Very often, the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brainwashing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional).[1]

Yes, it would take something like that, to plan and prepare for Obama's presidency as long ago as 1961.[/QUOTE]

 

[BotanyBoy]

That depends entirely on if you touch my radio while I'm listening to Micheal Jackson. In which case yes. We are racist, but it'll be hilarious.

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[run_silent]

N.B.: A conspiracy theorist is not someone who theorizes that there are conspiracies. There are conspiracies, every time two or more people communicate in furtherance of a criminal enterprise. The common law has provisions for dealing with it; the law of conspiracy predates American independence.

Conspiracy theories are much more all-encompassing. They imagine dark secretive forces, in some cases persisting over centuries, behind everything that goes wrong in life, pulling strings from behind the scenes, causing wars and depressions and revolutions and even apparent natural disasters for their own nefarious or deluded ends.

Some choice bits from Hofstadter's 1964 essay:

You have now obfuscated the issue I can't even follow what you're point is. Do you have any thoughts of you're own and just C+P?


Yes, it would take something like that, to plan and prepare for Obama's presidency as long ago as 1961.

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[jeninflorida]

Jenn isn't really capable of holding up her end of a conversation. She endlessly restates what she believes to be true of the information gleaned from FAUX News, as if anyone cares. I suspect that even the right wing posters can't stand her.

She's just someone to smack around when you're feeling mean.

and here is one that consumes the welfare aka x government worker, and one that drinks the kool aide via MSNBC

idiot

 

[jeninflorida]

Oh I'm Korean and your black...If I play Jackie Chan and you play Chris Tucker....does that make us racist?

Very confused.....

I could give a shit if obama is black or white...or little of both. what pisses me off is that obama is not only a socialist, but a complete fuck up

sean and that ignorant bitch are racist ass whipes...that desperately need to blame others for their own failures.

they need to fucking grow up and do something other then bitching and consuming welfare

 

[jeninflorida]

wow, this is awesome! violence and stupidity...thank god we have government other wise you fucktards would die as your too stupid to feed yourselves

Jen’s only contribution is to suck cock for a living and that’s about as far as that goes.

The repetitious ranting is a result of her gravy train getting bored of her stupidity and fading looks; leaving her alone at home with her bored pointless life while he fucks the secretary and plays golf with his friends.

It’s sad but difficult to feel sorry for her.

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To be fair Joey remember when we all tried ignoring Jenny and she came up with a new alt every third day or so? So you're not just being mean, you're also performing a public goddamn service by keeping her on this name. That's one thing I respect about Busybody, he knows we've all got him on ignore. He don't give a fuck!

Jenn isn't really capable of holding up her end of a conversation. She endlessly restates what she believes to be true of the information gleaned from FAUX News, as if anyone cares. I suspect that even the right wing posters can't stand her.

She's just someone to smack around when you're feeling mean.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I could give a shit if obama is black or white...or little of both. what pisses me off is that obama is not only a socialist, but a complete fuck up

sean and that ignorant bitch are racist ass whipes...that desperately need to blame others for their own failures.

they need to fucking grow up and do something other then bitching and consuming welfare

How is any of that relevant to my comment in any what form or fashion?



It's not....you're just nuts.

 

[jeninflorida]

How is any of that relevant to my comment in any what form or fashion?



It's not....you're just nuts.

not from what you said, but what the others said

 

[run_silent]

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

 

[jeninflorida]

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

yeah....no. now if an American moves to Africa ... then they are an American African

 

[BotanyBoy]

not from what you said, but what the others said

So why the fuck did you quote me?

 

[BotanyBoy]

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

Yes....

I already pointed out that a white guy born and raised in Africa is more African than a black guy born and raised outside of Africa.

 

[jeninflorida]

Yes....

I already pointed out that a white guy born and raised in Africa is more African than a black guy born and raised outside of Africa.

People like Sean need excuses, and they can't accept that they are dumbasses and lazy. they always look for issues, and fail to complete anything.

 

[run_silent]

Yes....

I already pointed out that a white guy born and raised in Africa is more African than a black guy born and raised outside of Africa.

Well sir good for you. Do you think that is an opinion held by most?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well sir good for you. Do you think that is an opinion held by most?

Probably not as most have had "Check the box that most appropriately matches your skin color to a continent" gubbmint level stupid
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beat into their skulls for years on end.

But for the thinking population it's fucking absurd to call a US citizen who wasn't born, lived or held/holding citizenship in an African nation to call themselves "African American".

Fortunately no one ever accused the majority of being capable of basic reasoning skills, and never doubt the power of high volume stupidity......black skin = african

 

[jeninflorida]

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

its about weak minded people, that have nothing and are not willing to put the work in to become successful. its a scream for help

 

[RobDownSouth]

its about weak minded people, that have nothing and are not willing to put the work in to become successful. its a scream for help

^^^^ speaking of "weak minded people".....

 

[Sean Renaud]

By the way Bot you better know at least seven martial arts or that's gonna be like half the jokes in the movie as I continually ask why you don't catch bullets in your teeth and then you can point out that was a black guy and I'll be all shonuff.

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

Technically.

Yes....

I already pointed out that a white guy born and raised in Africa is more African than a black guy born and raised outside of Africa.

I don't so much disagree as understand that is not what the term means. In the same way that you (okay you would, and I would but that's hardly the point you prick) would never walk up to a man at his wedding and say "You're the Gayest Man in the world right now." because that's not what the word means. Let's be honest, if anybody said we belong to the same gang as Jen we'd slap the taste out of their mouths.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If a white guy was born in Africa moves to the US is he an African American? Think about it.

Yes he is. I once worked with a guy who had that background. He came to the United States to go to college, and was elected president of the African student union at the Univ. of Virginia.

Surprisingly, his election was supported overwhelmingly by his African counterparts but NOT by the University OR other African-American student groups. More than a bit of culture shock, methinks. He was amused and uses the story to great benefit in his career.

 

[BotanyBoy]

By the way Bot you better know at least seven martial arts or that's gonna be like half the jokes in the movie as I continually ask why you don't catch bullets in your teeth and then you can point out that was a black guy and I'll be all shonuff.

I'll fake it till I make it.

I don't so much disagree as understand that is not what the term means. In the same way that you (okay you would, and I would but that's hardly the point you prick) would never walk up to a man at his wedding and say "You're the Gayest Man in the world right now." because that's not what the word means. Let's be honest, if anybody said we belong to the same gang as Jen we'd slap the taste out of their mouths.

Might be the biologist side of me, technical classification of critters of all forms....It's srsbznz

And absolutely.....jen is like that bottom feeder troll, the catfish of trolls if you will.

You and I like to make people rage quit like a Sir.....fuckin' classy.
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