Mr. Speaker! We Need To Get Back To Benghazi

[RobDownSouth]

AJ call your medicine man! :nods:

Whopper of the Year: 'The Mainstream Media' Ignored Benghazi

Love or hate their coverage, the notion that a scandal went uncovered is a conservative delusion.

Conservatives believe the MSM has largely ignored the Benghazi story even as conservative outlets diligently report it out. This perception has little grounding in reality. That isn't to say that no conservative criticism of Benghazi coverage has been accurate. As on any subject, there are many flawed stories put out there by outlets right, left, and center. But the conservative claim that "the MSM" has ignored the story is a mass delusion.

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[Busybody]

STFU with BS

 

[YANCEY]

JB is a weak leader. Hell, he's not even the leader of the party anyway. The far right is obviously pulling the guys strings.

 

[Liar]

AJ call your medicine man! :nods:

Whopper of the Year: 'The Mainstream Media' Ignored Benghazi

Love or hate their coverage, the notion that a scandal went uncovered is a conservative delusion.

Conservatives believe the MSM has largely ignored the Benghazi story even as conservative outlets diligently report it out. This perception has little grounding in reality. That isn't to say that no conservative criticism of Benghazi coverage has been accurate. As on any subject, there are many flawed stories put out there by outlets right, left, and center. But the conservative claim that "the MSM" has ignored the story is a mass delusion.

LINK

It's not a conservative delusion. It's a conservative deception.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I dunno, the more and more I listen to my Right Wing friends I think they really buy the bullshit.

 

[Busybody]

2 ree tards^^^^

 

[Busybody]

WOW

You know that totally insane Benghazi conspiracy theory? Yep. It keeps getting less insane each and every day









Word broke today (via the outstanding Pajamas Media) that Arabic language media is confirming strong ties between the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi and Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.





Multiple Arabic media sources have reported that the purpose of the Libyan intelligence chief’s recent trip to Cairo was to share information about Mursi’s involvement.

Other Arabic sources (1, 2, 3), including Masress, have reported on the details of the charges being filed against Mursi. They involve his release of [terrorist Mohammed Jamal] Al-Kashif...

If Mursi was involved, what were his possible motives? Indisputably, the two most prominent voices as of late demanding the release of “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdul Rahman were Ayman Al-Zawahiri and Muhammad Mursi. Interestingly, Mursi made such a demand before and days after the attacks in Benghazi.

Which begs the question: why are President Obama and same-sex senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham lobbying so hard for the Muslim Brotherhood?

Word of Egypt's involvement in the assassination of Ambassador Christopher Stevens had circulated in intelligence circles since September. Raymond Ibrahim reported then on a troubling Libyan intelligence document. It asserts that the Muslim Brotherhood, including Egyptian President Morsi, were involved in the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.




On Wednesday, June 26, several Arabic websites ... quoted the intelligence report, which apparently was first leaked to the Kuwaiti paper, Al Ra’i... It discusses the preliminary findings of the investigation, specifically concerning an “Egyptian cell” which was involved in the consulate attack. “Based on confessions derived from some of those arrested at the scene” six people, “all of them Egyptians” from the jihad group Ansar al-Sharia (“Supporters of Islamic Law), were arrested.

According to the report, during interrogations, these Egyptian jihadi cell members “confessed to very serious and important information concerning the financial sources of the group and the planners of the event and the storming and burning of the U.S. consulate in Benghazi…. And among the more prominent figures whose names were mentioned by cell members during confessions were: Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi; preacher Safwat Hegazi; Saudi businessman Mansour Kadasa, owner of the satellite station, Al-Nas; Egyptian Sheikh Muhammad Hassan; former presidential candidate, Hazim Salih Abu Isma’il..."
This jibes with original reporting from last September by Walid Shoebat. A cellphone video taken during the attacks depicts gunmen running toward the camera. At one point an approaching gunman cries, "Don't shoot us! We were sent by Morsi!"


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In October of 2012, a comment by "Kozy" posited that the Benghazi attack was an "October Surprise". Easily dismissed at the time as some sort of conspiracy nonsense, with each passing day the scenario appears to become more plausible:



• Starting in late March, U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz begs the State Department for more security assets. These requests are flatly refused.

• Also early in the year (February, March and April), White House visitor records show several lightly documented -- and possibly confidential -- visits by Hillary Clinton to the White House.

• In May, U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz is swapped for Chris Stevens.

• In June, Egyptian President Morsi publicly pledges to secure the release of 'The Blind Sheikh', the extremist cleric responsible for the first World Trade Center attack.

• Also starting in June, Ambassador Stevens' security teams are systematically removed from Libya, despite increasingly urgent requests and dire predictions. By the time of the 9/11 attack, Stevens has not a single personal bodyguard. These stunning actions effectively remove any barriers to the capture of the Ambassador for use as a hostage.

• Did back-channel communications between the White House and the Blind Shiekh's legal representatives confirm that a swap could be achieved with a high-level hostage exchange? Were the Sheikh's cronies informed that Ambassador Stevens had no security in Benghazi? This would enable the Sheikh to be secured through a trade after capturing Stevens; after all, the ambassador has had his security teams completely stripped away.

• Someone -- it is not clear who -- arranges a meeting between Stevens and Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akinin in Benghazi, not Tripoli, late in the evening of 9/11. It is during this meeting that terrorist checkpoints are established around the compound. The terrorists know precisely where Stevens is and are prepared logistically to capture him.

• The initial attack involves only small arms fire. A fire was later used to smoke out the Ambassador from a safe room. In other words, the lack of RPG and mortar rounds during the initial attack means it is highly likely that the operation was a "smash and grab" designed to capture the Ambassador, not assassinate him. RPGs were only used later at the annex, hours later, after Stevens was known KIA.

• And, as stated above, during the initial attack, a video shot via camera phone records men yelling "Don’t Shoot us! We were sent by Morsi!"


Hostage swap


Under this operating theory, had all gone according to plan, the Obama administration would have secretly facilitated the capture of Ambassador Stevens. This would have permitted Obama to safely trade the Ambassador through the release of the Blind Sheikh.

The trade of the Sheikh for Stevens would have occurred, of course, just before the election. Obama would take very public credit for Stevens' safe return as well as a newly strengthened relationship with Egypt's Morsi.

Photo ops featuring Obama and Stevens would be splashed along the campaign trail, ostensibly solidifying the president's foreign policy qualifications.

Sound too far-fetched? Consider the following unanswered unanswered questions:

• Why did State repeatedly deny requests for more security in Benghazi, despite increasingly dire predictions? Instead, State completely stripped security from Stevens. No credible explanation has been offered for the removal of security by the White House or the State Department. It has been confirmed that the budget excuse proffered by State was completely false.

• Who arranged Stevens' meeting with Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akinin in Benghazi, not Tripoli, so late in the evening?

• Why on 9/11 -- of all dates -- was there no special security posture ordered in diplomatic installations around the Middle East?

• Why did so many people in the administration publicly lie about the nature of the attack when it was clear from the onset that it was an organized attack by terrorists?

• And, once again: why are President Obama and same-sex senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham lobbying so hard for the release of Muslim Brotherhood terrorists including Mursi?

• Why did the president go to sleep after getting word of the attack?

• Why did he reportedly refuse security briefings in the aftermath of the attack, instead simply departing for a fundraiser in Las Vegas?

The theory being: the President didn't need to stay awake after hearing of the attack. He didn't need any briefings. He knew exactly what had happened.

A review of the Complete Benghazi Timeline makes some of these anomalies apparent. It's high time for a special prosecutor and a full, Watergate-style investigation into this madness

 

[RobDownSouth]

Poor stupid G-dless J-w Busybody really really really wants Benghazi to be a scandal.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Here we are approaching the one year anniversary and still nothing is sticking. I wonder why.

 

[phrodeau]

Poor stupid G-dless J-w Busybody really really really wants Benghazi to be a scandal.

He wants it to be a waste of tax money too.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=47833838&postcount=38

The tremendous cost of not doing something, I guess.

 

[Busybody]

Poor stupid G-dless J-w Busybody really really really wants Benghazi to be a scandal.

RODEO CLOWN!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Here we are approaching the one year anniversary and still nothing is sticking. I wonder why.

Because Mainstream America accepts the fact that Benghazi was an unfortunate incident.

The RWCJ insists on seeing a conspiracy.

 

[phrodeau]

RODEO CLOWN!

How many more stupid comments will you be posting today? I would hate to miss any.

 

[RobDownSouth]

How many more stupid comments will you be posting today? I would hate to miss any.

His record is 103, with an overall stupidity index of 8.3

 

[BotanyBoy]

Here we are approaching the one year anniversary and still nothing is sticking. I wonder why.

If that's your stance then what the fuck is your problem with the Zimmerman acquittal?

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

Many facts regarding Benghazi are being concealed yet one glaring fact is very troubling. While under attack we sent no rescue. The position that it would have been to late is utter nonsense because at that moment you cannot say how long the embassy could hold out. So that statement only reflects the timetable of events after the fact.

On this board I profess I am probably the least knowledgeable person regarding military stuff. But common sense tells me that any embassy in a dangerous location should have adequate personnel to defend it. I do feel that how this whole incident was handled is a disgrace by the present administration and disrespectful to all government personnel who serve in hostile regions.

Obama has yet to take responsibility as he has never accepted responsibility for anything. It always gets blamed on others. Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?

 

[dan_c00000]

The republitards still have nothing on Benghazi:


Fox News' Allen West Accuses GOP Of Aiding In Benghazi "Cover-Up"

Blog ››› July 24, 2013 9:13 AM EDT ››› REMINGTON SHEPARD





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Fox News contributor and former Congressman Allen West (R-FL) accused fellow Republicans of engaging in a "cover-up" of the attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, because they did not support a vote to form a special committee to investigate the attacks.

Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) has circulated a discharge petition that demands a vote on a bill that would appoint a congressional committee to investigate the September 11, 2012, attacks in Benghazi. The petition requires 218 votes to force the bill -- H. Res. 36-- to the floor over Speaker John Boehner's (R-OH) objections. On July 23, West spoke at a fringe group rally in support of the petition.

On the July 24 Fox & Friends, West expanded on his support, reasoning that a select committee was needed to investigate the Benghazi attacks to find out who ordered military personnel to "stand down" and not respond, ignoring the fact that such an order was never given.

He then asserted that those who did not support and sign the discharge petition were complicit in covering up the facts related to the Benghazi attack, saying: "Without a doubt, there has to be seen as a cover-up and everyone that is complicit in this to include the media and those not willing to sign the discharge petition or H. Res. 36."



In lobbing this accusation, West smeared his former Republican colleagues, including Boehner and the author of H. Res 36, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA). According to The Hill, Boehner "and other GOP leaders say current panels are doing a fine job with oversight on Benghazi," while a spokeswoman for Wolfe said that he "appreciates any attention drawn to his bill, which drew two more co-sponsors this week, but would not sign on to the discharge petition forcing a floor vote over the objections of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)." Wolf had previously suggested that Boehner's not allowing for a vote on a select committee would be tantamount to his being involved in "cover-up" of the attack.

The House Oversight Committee, House Foreign Affairs Committee, House Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence, House Armed Services Committee, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and Senate Intelligence Committee have all held hearings and conducted investigations into the attacks in Benghazi, and more hearings are scheduled for coming months.

But it seems that at least six different investigations into the Benghazi attacks are not enough for Fox News contributor Allen West.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Many facts regarding Benghazi are being concealed yet one glaring fact is very troubling. While under attack we sent no rescue. The position that it would have been to late is utter nonsense because at that moment you cannot say how long the embassy could hold out. So that statement only reflects the timetable of events after the fact.

Your conjecture is not supported by facts.

Obama has yet to take responsibility as he has never accepted responsibility for anything. It always gets blamed on others. Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?

President Obama, October 28, 2012:
President Obama on Saturday vowed to hold his administration “accountable” for September’s attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, saying he took ultimate responsibility for any security lapses.

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[Busybody]

President Obama, October 28, 2012:
President Obama on Saturday vowed to hold his administration “accountable” for September’s attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, saying he took ultimate responsibility for any security lapses.

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that must be why

NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE

hey.....I know, he is BUSY

at

MATHA'S VINYARD!

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

Your conjecture is not supported by facts.



President Obama, October 28, 2012:
President Obama on Saturday vowed to hold his administration “accountable” for September’s attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, saying he took ultimate responsibility for any security lapses.

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It is a great feat to have your head up your ass. Nothing I said is conjecture. I watched the hearings. No rescue was sent, period. This is an inescapable fact. Requests for more security were denied, FACT. Assets ready to go were told to stand down, FACT.

Obama's taking responsibility are mere words because who was punished or sanctioned due to this? Oh yes the whistleblower who testified that he received a direct order to have assets stand down was reassigned which amounted to a demotion. What happened to the Obama cronies who gave the orders or failed to give requested security? Nothing. Words are meaningless without appropriate actions and repercussions to those who screwed the pooch.

By the way how old are you? Save your immaturity for somebody who wont put you on ignore. You want to discuss and have debate with differing opinion I'm cool with that but start resorting to that childish derp silliness and I will treat you like the infantile person you wish to exhibit and place you ignore.

Wiki as your source and rebuttal? Really? Please.

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

that must be why

NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE

hey.....I know, he is BUSY

at

MATHA'S VINYARD!

If you look at the timeline the child linked you will note that Obama did not officially "take responsibility" until after his re-election. He did not man up until it could not hurt him. Before that his little lap dog Hillary fell on her sword for her master.

 

[koalabear]

Missing missiles.........

 

[Busybody]

Missing missiles.........

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?


But the RODEO CLOWN!

 

[phrodeau]

Many facts regarding Benghazi are being concealed yet one glaring fact is very troubling. While under attack we sent no rescue. The position that it would have been to late is utter nonsense because at that moment you cannot say how long the embassy could hold out. So that statement only reflects the timetable of events after the fact.

On this board I profess I am probably the least knowledgeable person regarding military stuff. But common sense tells me that any embassy in a dangerous location should have adequate personnel to defend it. I do feel that how this whole incident was handled is a disgrace by the present administration and disrespectful to all government personnel who serve in hostile regions.

Obama has yet to take responsibility as he has never accepted responsibility for anything. It always gets blamed on others. Whatever happened to "the buck stops here"?

Your glaring fact is plain wrong. Maybe you've heard of Glen Doherty? He was part of a team of American reinforcements who came from Tripoli. Maybe you didn't know that dozens of the attackers were killed by the team that was there all along.

 

[koalabear]

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?


But the RODEO CLOWN!

It's all about priorities.