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Yeah this doesn't contradict your last 20,000 posts saying the exact opposite thing or anything.
What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?
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Yeah this doesn't contradict your last 20,000 posts saying the exact opposite thing or anything.
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no it doesn't....right now for every one job created - two American's go on welfare.
the jobs being created have nothing to do with anything remotely obama has done...as the only thing obama is good at is fucking up, and going on expensive vacations.
in fact, if obama was a CEO - the obama cell mate would be Dennis Kozlowski. oh wait, Dennis has mo morals than obama
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Exclusive: 4 in 5 in US face near-poverty, no work
By HOPE YEN
WASHINGTON (AP) — Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream
Hey, But Mr TONED ARMZ is LOWERING TEH DAFFY SHIT!
Exclusive: 4 in 5 in US face near-poverty, no work
By HOPE YEN
WASHINGTON (AP) — Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream
Hey, But Mr TONED ARMZ is LOWERING TEH DAFFY SHIT!
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^^^ Ironic, coming from a long-term unemployed man who is leeching off the government teat.
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And the Republican solution to this is to cut taxes on the wealthy, implement a flax tax to hike taxes on the middle class and poor, repeal minimum wage, and reduce health care benefits on people who need them most.
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yeah....and the obama way is working! driving America into the crapper
time for people to step up to the plate and end this obama welfare train
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^^^
Didn't make any sense at all.
Didn't bother looking at the video.
Just an excuse for a herp to derp.
derp!
Didn't make any sense at all.
Didn't bother looking at the video.
Just an excuse for a herp to derp.
derp!
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The Obamacare “lower premiums” shell game
You don’t have to look much further than the usual list of suspects to discover that new marching orders have been issued in an effort to salvage the tanking national support of the President’s health care bill. The next line of attack is to begin spreading (dis)information on how Obamacare is already working. How do we know? Because, as featured at one of the President’s biggest cheer leading sites, people are already seeing lower premiums for their coverage!
Growing Number Of States Are Reporting Lower Than Expected Health Care Premiums
Health premiums in Maryland’s exchanges will be “among the lowest of the 12 states that have available proposed or approved rates for comparison,” the state’s exchange — Maryland Health Connection — announced Friday. The news comes just as New York,Oregon, Montana, California, and Louisiana are also reporting lower than expected premiums.
And the good news is out west, also, as seen in Sin City!
Health Exchange insurance plans to cost less in Las Vegas than other parts of state
CARSON CITY — Preliminary costs for the upcoming mandatory federal health insurance coverage show it will be cheaper for Las Vegas residents to buy a policy than it will be for residents of other parts of the state.
State officials gave a preview Friday of how the Affordable Care Act will affect Nevadans. Four companies have signed up to offer health coverage through the state’s Silver State Health Exchange.
Wow. And here we had been saying all along that premiums were going to go up under Obamacare. So I guess we were all wrong and everyone can just go home and begin enjoying their benefits now, right? Well… not so fast. The headlines are carefully scripted to give one impression, but the reality is something else. You have to check with a few sources to find it, though.
Insurance premiums for some consumers in Maryland will go up by as much as 25 percent once ObamaCare takes full effect next year.
The state on Friday released final insurance rates for the private insurance policies available next year through the new insurance exchange created by ObamaCare…
The filings provide grist for both sides of the ObamaCare debate: prices for some consumers will go up next year, but the increases are far lower than what insurance companies initially proposed.
As you see, the prices aren’t actually going down anywhere. They’re just going up less than projected in some places. And beyond that, the first article linked above demonstrates why even that isn’t thanks to Obamacare. It’s from blue state governments trying to bring the hammer down as hard as possible to put some lipstick on this pig.
Officials say they used their authority to deny rate increases to reduce the proposed premiums by “more than 50 percent.” Thirty other states have have similar authority.
So the headlines being pitched attempt to make you think costs are going down. They aren’t. In fact, they are going up everywhere. But hey… it’s not like anyone promised us that Obamacare would actually reduce rates, right?
Let’s go back in time to when President Obama first began to make the case for his health care overhaul. Here’s how he touted his health plan in May 2007, early in his run for office. “If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less.” On the campaign trail in 2008, Obama continued to sell the law as a way to lower health premiums, promising at least 15 times to reduce health premiums for families by $2500 on average. And as Buzzfeed notes, Obama didn’t stop pointing to lower premiums when he made it into the White House in 2009. In May of that year, he told C-SPAN that if health industry groups commit to savings—“we end up saving $2 trillion…a lot of those savings can go back into the pockets of American consumers in the form of lower premiums. That’s what we are driving for.”
Far more recently, as Erika already pointed out, Nancy Pelosi was caught flat footed, claiming she didn’t remember anyone ever saying that premiums would go down. Except, of course, that Pelosi herself was saying it as recently as last year. So it should come as no surprise that you’re now going to see a barrage of headlines and talking heads spinning stories about “lower premiums” under Obamacare.
But they’re still lying about it. The people I work with on a weekly basis have already found out about this the hard way, and the rest of you will also.
You don’t have to look much further than the usual list of suspects to discover that new marching orders have been issued in an effort to salvage the tanking national support of the President’s health care bill. The next line of attack is to begin spreading (dis)information on how Obamacare is already working. How do we know? Because, as featured at one of the President’s biggest cheer leading sites, people are already seeing lower premiums for their coverage!
Growing Number Of States Are Reporting Lower Than Expected Health Care Premiums
Health premiums in Maryland’s exchanges will be “among the lowest of the 12 states that have available proposed or approved rates for comparison,” the state’s exchange — Maryland Health Connection — announced Friday. The news comes just as New York,Oregon, Montana, California, and Louisiana are also reporting lower than expected premiums.
And the good news is out west, also, as seen in Sin City!
Health Exchange insurance plans to cost less in Las Vegas than other parts of state
CARSON CITY — Preliminary costs for the upcoming mandatory federal health insurance coverage show it will be cheaper for Las Vegas residents to buy a policy than it will be for residents of other parts of the state.
State officials gave a preview Friday of how the Affordable Care Act will affect Nevadans. Four companies have signed up to offer health coverage through the state’s Silver State Health Exchange.
Wow. And here we had been saying all along that premiums were going to go up under Obamacare. So I guess we were all wrong and everyone can just go home and begin enjoying their benefits now, right? Well… not so fast. The headlines are carefully scripted to give one impression, but the reality is something else. You have to check with a few sources to find it, though.
Insurance premiums for some consumers in Maryland will go up by as much as 25 percent once ObamaCare takes full effect next year.
The state on Friday released final insurance rates for the private insurance policies available next year through the new insurance exchange created by ObamaCare…
The filings provide grist for both sides of the ObamaCare debate: prices for some consumers will go up next year, but the increases are far lower than what insurance companies initially proposed.
As you see, the prices aren’t actually going down anywhere. They’re just going up less than projected in some places. And beyond that, the first article linked above demonstrates why even that isn’t thanks to Obamacare. It’s from blue state governments trying to bring the hammer down as hard as possible to put some lipstick on this pig.
Officials say they used their authority to deny rate increases to reduce the proposed premiums by “more than 50 percent.” Thirty other states have have similar authority.
So the headlines being pitched attempt to make you think costs are going down. They aren’t. In fact, they are going up everywhere. But hey… it’s not like anyone promised us that Obamacare would actually reduce rates, right?
Let’s go back in time to when President Obama first began to make the case for his health care overhaul. Here’s how he touted his health plan in May 2007, early in his run for office. “If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less.” On the campaign trail in 2008, Obama continued to sell the law as a way to lower health premiums, promising at least 15 times to reduce health premiums for families by $2500 on average. And as Buzzfeed notes, Obama didn’t stop pointing to lower premiums when he made it into the White House in 2009. In May of that year, he told C-SPAN that if health industry groups commit to savings—“we end up saving $2 trillion…a lot of those savings can go back into the pockets of American consumers in the form of lower premiums. That’s what we are driving for.”
Far more recently, as Erika already pointed out, Nancy Pelosi was caught flat footed, claiming she didn’t remember anyone ever saying that premiums would go down. Except, of course, that Pelosi herself was saying it as recently as last year. So it should come as no surprise that you’re now going to see a barrage of headlines and talking heads spinning stories about “lower premiums” under Obamacare.
But they’re still lying about it. The people I work with on a weekly basis have already found out about this the hard way, and the rest of you will also.
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The Federal Government's inspector general estimates that the total amount of fraud detailed above in the entire food stamp program is a miniscule 1.8%.
Now it seems to me there are three possible courses of action:
- Institute massive new government programs to prevent that sort of fraud from happening in the future
- Punish the law-abiding 98.2% who do obey the law by doing away with food stamps altogether
- Shrug your shoulders and say, well, that's an unfortunate cost of doing business
Personally, I'm leaning towards option 3 here
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Jesus Christ, so you accept 1.8% of fraud? WTF!
you are a fucking moron, the king of fucking idiots.
but hey, its not YOUR money so lets celebrate these fucktards lost 1.8%
god, stupidity is mind blowing....
you are a fucking moron, the king of fucking idiots.
but hey, its not YOUR money so lets celebrate these fucktards lost 1.8%
god, stupidity is mind blowing....
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Yep. It is a fair chunk of money but there is nothing realistic you can do about it. All businesses run fraud and 1.8% is well within the amount that you're supposed to accept and move on.
Yes, you accept 1.8% fraud and simply call it a day. Anything you attempt to do to stop it is probably going to cost more than just ignoring it anyway. That's just the reality of things.
Even if it is your business. It's so obvious most of you have never so much as balanced a checkbook in the past. 1.8% isn't even the Skittles you pick up when the urge hits you. 1.8% is the amount you leave in the couch and don't pick up from tip because you're too lazy to figure out exactly what the tip was supposed to be after dinner.
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Still waiting to hear your proposed solution. Tell us how to fix the problem.
If you're man enough to tell us, that is.
Given your lack of courage in the past here, I seriously doubt you have the intestinal fortitude to go on record with your solution.
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