Ok, very serious question.......

[Stella_Omega]

A word of advice; next time you feel compelled to talk about why you won't fuck your wife?

Keep your mouth shut instead.

 

[Kellydude666]

Oh yes, a very small degree. Which is why one person can take the same med I'm on and wind up six feet under, and another can wind up better.

Which is why I can take the same 60 mg's of steroid as my grandmother hear voices and grow a mustache, and she can gain 3 pounds and otherwise nothing.

Please. Your complete inability to understand that not everyone is you shows. Someone can have the exact issues I have or you have and feel better, worse, or the same. Give speed to five people and the ADD one can suddently calm down and function. There's nothing "small" about that.

Autoimmune is in the top 10 killers of women between 20-60, so that's a lot of people on a lot of cortisone. I'm not some outlying random freak.

And when I go to my deep dark woe is me place there is a big bowl of Pho there, putting weight on my ass - so fuck anyone telling me I can't pick my own poison till they deal with the same shit I do. I've been a size 6, 14, 16, 12, 10, 8, and 4, and I never was a better or worse quality of person or someone anyone could call lazy. I was also at my LEAST healthy at my smallest, getting the most compliments and visual validation from a fucked in the head culture.

His wife could be a raving bitch. His wife could be fucking someone else who doesn't care about her weight. His wife could weigh 125 or 400. What I do know is that whatever is going on isn't limited to her anywhere but in his mind.

Hey, no one here is denying that there are people with medical conditions etc where it is a struggle or impossible to try and stay fit. I think any logical thinking human being gets that. What it comes down to it there is definitely something wrong in my eyes with this over weight culture about doing nothing about it, being lazy or just accepting to be out of shape or obese. Hey, if you are accepting of it, fine, that's your life or whoever's life, I'm not judging. I came from a family who stressed exercise, balanced eating and taking care of yourself to the best of your ability, so I stand by that way of thinking. When someone is just not taking care of themselves because of laziness and it's affecting those other intangibles???? Sorry, but no excuse. Then you have to accept the drawbacks. I love the dolts here who keep insisting that I'm "punishing my wife" by holding back sex. Look in the mirror folks!

 

[Kellydude666]

And by the way, to any of the ladies out there who recently had children and have weight problems, none of these posts were ever directed to you. I do understand that a female goes thought a lot of changes during that time and I know it has to be even harder when having multiple children.

My situation is entirely on another level.

 

[incubus'_sub]

nj lauren, now you're blaming the GOVERNMENT???? good lord woman, is there no end to your list of excuses?

for the record, once and for all, i DID NOT say that women kept themselves trim and attractive for their men only but FOR THEMSELVES. it's a personal pride thing and you either have it or you don't.

no, i don't exercise for 2 hours a day lol. nor do i starve myself. but i am careful not to eat too much as that is the MAIN CAUSE of the fat society. not illness, not pain, not having kids, not working in an office and certainly not the government lmao. the 2nd biggest cause is this ridiculous pretense that fat is ok and cannot be spoken about.

i congratulate all of those who KNOW that their partners love them despite their flab. i'm sure that they do. i'm also sure that underneath it all you are aware that the real truth is that your partners would probably prefer that you stopped making excuses and made an effort and had a tiny bit of pride in your appearance. that is, if they can be bothered themselves. so, the fat culture continues...

 

[graceanne]

Rumor has it there is a troll here, so I'm going to post this sign to remind everyone that troll does not equal stupid and just because this thread started out sounding legit, doesn't mean the OP isn't a troll.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/graceanne1978/lit%20images/trolls/376436_228671623866756_100001717615623_673428_595275220_n.jpg

 

[Kellydude666]

Rumor has it there is a troll here, so I'm going to post this sign to remind everyone that troll does not equal stupid and just because this thread started out sounding legit, doesn't mean the OP isn't a troll.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/graceanne1978/lit%20images/trolls/376436_228671623866756_100001717615623_673428_595275220_n.jpg

Thanks so much for your added wisdom. I was wondering what your thoughts were regarding why the Beghazi military story is still listed as classified.
Do you think Gregory Hicks' claim that he was demoted after he spoke with congressional investigators and questioned the State Department's handling of the crisis was wrong???

 

[graceanne]

Thanks so much for your added wisdom. I was wondering what your thoughts were regarding why the Beghazi military story is still listed as classified.
Do you think Gregory Hicks' claim that he was demoted after he spoke with congressional investigators and questioned the State Department's handling of the crisis was wrong???

I'm sorry, my troll translation dictionary is in the other room and I don't care enough about what your'e saying to go get it. Maybe later.

 

[blulilacgrl]

I have a suggestion. Since the OP has such a problem with his wife's weight issues. And since he seems to think it is okay for him to step out on his wife because of that (and he says other things so I will even accept that there are other issues). Why doesn't he continue to do what he needs to do to get off and encourage his wife to meet the any number of men, on this site and elsewhere, who like bigger women?

She can get sex from someone who embraces her body type and he can get sex (with all the kink that he wants) from his Domme. Win/win, right?

Would you be okay with that, Kellydude?

 

[Kellydude666]

I'm sorry, my troll translation dictionary is in the other room and I don't care enough about what your'e saying to go get it. Maybe later.

Oh, yeah, come back to us after you look it up. Something brought you here to take a care in what I'm saying.

 

[Kellydude666]

I have a suggestion. Since the OP has such a problem with his wife's weight issues. And since he seems to think it is okay for him to step out on his wife because of that (and he says other things so I will even accept that there are other issues). Why doesn't he continue to do what he needs to do to get off and encourage his wife to meet the any number of men, on this site and elsewhere, who like bigger women?

She can get sex from someone who embraces her body type and he can get sex (with all the kink that he wants) from his Domme. Win/win, right?

Would you be okay with that, Kellydude?

You may want to read earlier in the thread.

 

[graceanne]

Oh, yeah, come back to us after you look it up. Something brought you here to take a care in what I'm saying.

... and yet, still you keep trying to communicate. Poor thing must be confused and think you belong here.

Everyone, be kind to this poor troll. He's lost and just needs direction to where trolls belong. Poor little guy.

 

[blulilacgrl]

You may want to read earlier in the thread.

I have read your posts and I am assuming you want me to reread where you brought up swinging and she shot it down. I am not talking about swinging necessarily. I am talking about sitting down with her and encouraging her to take a lover who will embrace and adore her body in a way that you can't.

Swinging brings to mind a different image (rightly or wrongly) of one night stands or single occasions whereas she might like the idea of a lover who she can feel safe with.

 

[graceanne]

I have read your posts and I am assuming you want me to reread where you brought up swinging and she shot it down. I am not talking about swinging necessarily. I am talking about sitting down with her and encouraging her to take a lover who will embrace and adore her body in a way that you can't.

Swinging brings to mind a different image (rightly or wrongly) of one night stands or single occasions whereas she might like the idea of a lover who she can feel safe with.

Assuming this guy isn't full of shit, which I doubt as coming to this forum and bringing up weight stuff is a sure fire way to piss everyone off (and right now), don't worry about it much. As soon as she realizes he's fucking around cause she's fat, she'll leave his ass, take him to the cleaners in court, get the kids and all his money until the point that she remarries, and then she'll find someone who thinks she's sexy.

As much as I feel for her, when she realizes she married a piece of shit who can't keep his dick in his pants, letting him do what he needs to will bring her day of freedom that much closer. The sooner he does, the sooner she can move on.

 

[Kellydude666]

Assuming this guy isn't full of shit, which I doubt as coming to this forum and bringing up weight stuff is a sure fire way to piss everyone off (and right now), don't worry about it much. As soon as she realizes he's fucking around cause she's fat, she'll leave his ass, take him to the cleaners in court, get the kids and all his money until the point that she remarries, and then she'll find someone who thinks she's sexy.

As much as I feel for her, when she realizes she married a piece of shit who can't keep his dick in his pants, letting him do what he needs to will bring her day of freedom that much closer. The sooner he does, the sooner she can move on.

Hmm, you're so riled up!!!! Are you that FAT girl and now you are reading this post and it's bringing back unpleasant memories???? You so easy. By the way, if it comes to divorce which I doubt very much, I live in a state where the husband does not pay alimony after the divorce.

 

[graceanne]

Hmm, you're so riled up!!!! Are you that FAT girl and now you are reading this post and it's bringing back unpleasant memories???? You so easy. By the way, if it comes to divorce which I doubt very much, I live in a state where the husband does not pay alimony after the divorce.

Don't flatter yourself. The day you piss me off is the day is the day you go on ignore. That's what iggy is for. Duh!

 

[incubus'_sub]

it's a bit rude to call him a troll gracie. he's fairly new here and asked an often discussed question. so he brought up the weight thing ??? he's obviously unaware that despite the slim, attractive pics that people use as their avatars that most posters are overweight.

he's also unaware that you are one of the minority of the overweight who has genuine medical issues. that doesn't make him a troll either.

 

[graceanne]

it's a bit rude to call him a troll gracie. he's fairly new here and asked an often discussed question. so he brought up the weight thing ??? he's obviously unaware that despite the slim, attractive pics that people use as their avatars that most posters are overweight.

he's also unaware that you are one of the minority of the overweight who has genuine medical issues. that doesn't make him a troll either.

I wasn't sure he was a troll, he's possibly just a jerk ... until this point:

Hmm, you're so riled up!!!! You so easy.

 

[Kellydude666]

I wasn't sure he was a troll, he's possibly just a jerk ... until this point:

Kinda funny, you have no idea who I am but the first thing you actually did as maybe read the thread and you got so upset and flustered the first thing you labeled me was a "troll" and a few other things so don't lie about it now. Please, put me on ignore because you obviously can't handle my posts. I think it's better for all parties.
I have to say though, this is supposed to be a very liberal forum in nature but it's also the most hypocritical forum I ever visited. A bunch of posters who lay around passing judgement.

 

[CutieMouse]

I have to say though, this is supposed to be a very liberal forum in nature but it's also the most hypocritical forum I ever visited. A bunch of posters who lay around passing judgement.

Kinky people are people, just like anyone else. Which means that as popular as it is to think "Those BDSMers will support me! They do _____, for fucks sake! they'll be okay with ANYTHING I do (say, etc)!"... Not so much. There are still ethics, morals, social mores, and personal opinions in the mix.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I have to say though, this is supposed to be a very liberal forum in nature but it's also the most hypocritical forum I ever visited. A bunch of posters who lay around passing judgement.

Seems like just about every cheater who comes to this forum looking for validation pulls out that "you people are interested in sex so you have no right to criticise my ethics" line sooner or later. Word of advice: sexual ethics are MORE important in BDSM than vanilla sex because we are more dependent on trust.

When my girlfriend lets me tie her up and hurt her, that happens because she trusts me to respect her boundaries and take responsibility for her safety. When my partner gives me her blessing to go play with my girlfriend, that happens because she trusts me to follow our rules on safe sex and to come back afterwards.

When you go to a pro-domme to get your rocks off, that happens because you trust her to protect your privacy and not go talking to your wife or your co-workers. You may think it's not cheating, but think about how it'd play out in a divorce court and you might start to understand how important it is that you can trust your partner/s.

 

[sexymom]

Some Understanding

I'm sending you a message which addresses your original question.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm a professional male married a little over 10 years. Just started recently seeing a Dom, I've seen her three times already in a matter of weeks. Opening myself up, or I should say finding myself here, I think I will continue with seeing my Dom and continue the role playing. My wife knows nothing about it and I would never dream of letting my wife dominate me and show her how vulnerable I like to be in this new found lifestyle.

Am I doing something that is normal, or should I ask if others here are doing the same thing? Same as being romantically involved with one but seeing a Dom or Master on the side. Or is it when I read the posts here about all of you talking about your Dom's they are actually also your significant others? Would really appreciate the feedback on this question.

For some reason I feel I'm not cheating because there is no kissing or sex involved, just self masturbation at the end of the session.

Short and sweet.

How would you feel if your wife was doing that? "Oh, honey, they only see me naked and tease and punsih me and watch me play with myself, that's okay right?"

Don;t bother answering, I know your answer, or at least the real one and not the lie you will post.

You're cheating fucking dog.

If you want be dominated you should grow a pair and ask your wife(the one you supposedly care about) to do it with you.

That is called a relationship.

You're an immature grabby little boy looking to have his cake and eat it to. You're cheating on an unsuspecting woman who is stupid enough to love you. And if it was not cheating then why won't you tell her?

If you care about her cut her loose and go have your fun.

Oh, but then you wouldn't have anyone to take care of you, would you?

You're a piece of shit.

 

[midwestyankee]

Short and sweet.

How would you feel if your wife was doing that? "Oh, honey, they only see me naked and tease and punsih me and watch me play with myself, that's okay right?"

Don;t bother answering, I know your answer, or at least the real one and not the lie you will post.

You're cheating fucking dog.

If you want be dominated you should grow a pair and ask your wife(the one you supposedly care about) to do it with you.

That is called a relationship.

You're an immature grabby little boy looking to have his cake and eat it to. You're cheating on an unsuspecting woman who is stupid enough to love you. And if it was not cheating then why won't you tell her?

If you care about her cut her loose and go have your fun.

Oh, but then you wouldn't have anyone to take care of you, would you?

You're a piece of shit.

Oh, lovecraft, you wuss. When are you going to grow your own pair and treat people like the OP as brutally honestly as they deserve?

 

[KoPilot]

Short and sweet.

How would you feel if your wife was doing that? "Oh, honey, they only see me naked and tease and punsih me and watch me play with myself, that's okay right?"

Don;t bother answering, I know your answer, or at least the real one and not the lie you will post.

You're cheating fucking dog.

If you want be dominated you should grow a pair and ask your wife(the one you supposedly care about) to do it with you.

That is called a relationship.

You're an immature grabby little boy looking to have his cake and eat it to. You're cheating on an unsuspecting woman who is stupid enough to love you. And if it was not cheating then why won't you tell her?

If you care about her cut her loose and go have your fun.

Oh, but then you wouldn't have anyone to take care of you, would you?

You're a piece of shit.

Ugly fatty fatty fatface alimony benghazi!

 

[Netzach]

If you're going to equate seeing a pro where there are specific penisgoeswhere rules with having an affair to get one's dick wet, folks, I am warming up to this dildo's side of the argument more and more once again.

This is someone TRYING not to cheat on his wife who has some frustrated D/s desires. Sure he's schmucky about it, but I think that gets a few points.

Or maybe just wants to spooge near a chick he considers hot. Only he knows.