The only way to end corruption at the IRS is to

[koalabear]

Millions of Americans knowingly lie on their tax forms. The government loses out on roughly $300 billion a year in unpaid taxes.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So you want to put another 100K people on unemployment?

Emloyment matters if youre making stuff people want or hatching ideas that are too kewl for skewl. Shuffling paper, blabbering on the phone, sitting on your ass in meetings, and walking around with a clipboard are bullshit work.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

At least once a year Ish and AJ trot out the un-FairTax. It's supporters have been trying to get it passed for almost 2 decades. It's never going to happen. Not only are they playing games with the tax rate that would be required by calculating it differently than tax is normally to make it seem lower. The amount of black market avoidance that would occur would be obscene.

The black market is already 2 Trillion.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Bunch of bitter old white men bitching about taxes.

Nothing to see here folks.

Move along.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The tax code is a political tool for both parties. And a social one for both parties.

And with that admission don't you think it's time to change that paradigm?

Ishmael

Why? There's no good reason why it should not be a political and social tool.

 

[ryan8558]

Emloyment matters if youre making stuff people want or hatching ideas that are too kewl for skewl. Shuffling paper, blabbering on the phone, sitting on your ass in meetings, and walking around with a clipboard are bullshit work.

Ok, now you're talking about my managers. Actually we (the company I work for) could probably lose about 5 levels of management and never feel it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

That is why the Left will fight, literally, to the death to keep it.

For them taxation always was, is and will remain a political tool.



FairTax.org

Now, we see also that the IRS has stolen millions of medical records.

This too, with the tacit approval of the Left, who knows better how to manage our affairs as a 'commune-ity?'

Hey AJ, tell us again!

You walk into a store the day after the so-called Fair Tax is enacted.
You buy a widget for $1.00.
The Fair Tax is 30% Tax-exclusive, 23% Tax-inclusive.
How much money do you give the cashier?

A) $1.23
B) 91 cents
C) $1.30
D) Some other amount

 

[unregistered]

 

[Peregrinator]

1. Calculate your current net worth.

2. Subtract your net worth one year ago from your current net worth.

3. Take ten percent of the difference. If this is a positive number, send it to the government. If it is a negative number, good luck this year.

Simple. The definition of "you" includes any entity which is defined by law as a person. Including, especially, for profit businesses.

 

[unregistered]

 

[KingOrfeo]

The IRS needs to be stopped, it's present culture killed off with prison sentences.

No IRS, no USMC.

 

[unregistered]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Ok, now you're talking about my managers. Actually we (the company I work for) could probably lose about 5 levels of management and never feel it.

Sure! Almost all companies could easily forfeit their parasites with clipboards.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The IRS needs to lose its police power, and litigate in civil court with juries.

 

[Liar]

Not true, flat tax.

I'm not well read on flat tax. It magically collects itself?

 

[unregistered]

 

[unregistered]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You should be innocent until proven guilty. They should have to have probable cause and a court order to demand your records, and no American should have to give them testimony that can be used against them in a court of law....like the Constitution demands. That ought to do it.

10-4 The way it is they get their money and make you come after it, and there is no assumption of innocence when it comes to money.

 

[phrodeau]

A flat tax would put hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work.

Like this guy:

http://s22.theawl.com/awl/up/2011/04/4366183383_b95b2a2fd6_z-e1302784883675.jpg

 

[koalabear]

Much simpler, less of an IRS code, needing much less than the army of 89,000 plus IRS presently employs.

Plus more ammo would be available with them not buying it.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

All capital gains does is tax the inflation that government creates.

Also known as "equity" in some circles, and while the government does tax a minority percentage of it, the "capital gainers" pocket the remainder. That's bad?

I'm with Merc on this one. Exemptions and deductions under the current system are there to incentivize behavior (either consumer spending or saving) which the government believes to be economically beneficial to the country as a whole.

If any of those incentives benefit you specifically, you and your fellow beneficiaries tend to view that portion of the tax code as in no need of reform.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Also known as "equity" in some circles, and while the government does tax a minority percentage of it, the "capital gainers" pocket the remainder. That's bad?

I'm with Merc on this one. Exemptions and deductions under the current system are there to incentivize behavior (either consumer spending or saving) which the government believes to be economically beneficial to the country as a whole.

If any of those incentives benefit you specifically, you and your fellow beneficiaries tend to view that portion of the tax code as in no need of reform.

Capital gainers pocket squat, the gains are entirely inflation. The government taxes the inflation it creates.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Capital gainers pocket squat, the gains are entirely inflation. The government taxes the inflation it creates.

Of all the dumb things you've posted here, this has to be the dumbest.

 

[unregistered]

 

[BoyNextDoor]

15% flat tax on all income over the current poverty line guidelines. No exemptions.

Simple.