So if Muslims in America started organizing militias...

[TheOlderGuy]

This entire thread is precisely this (^^^^^^^) stupid. It's as if no one understands that American Muslims have precisely the same Constitutional rights as American Baptists or American Catholics or American Jews (now there's a jihad worth buying a ticket for). Hint: in this case it is the adjective that defines the scope of your rights, not the noun.

And it is thoroughly hilarious to see everyone ranting about American Muslims' 2nd Amendment rights and buying guns from gun shows as if it was merely a theoretical possibility.

Yeah, I'm sure none of them have ever thought to purchase a gun within the last decade just in case BusyBody comes busting through their door in the middle of the night.

You must have missed Col. Hogan's post #80. And I agree with him.

Thanks for being clear. So few have the courage to state their beliefs.

 

[Shagly]

Who said anything about negotiating? They get trials because they are humans, if they can't be proven guilty they go free. You only kill when you're not given any other choices.

That's what makes you a pussy. You're so afraid of them that you have to kill them to be safe. I'm not worried, I'll give them a hundred chances to kill me because I am not afraid.

Do it underground.

 

[BotanyBoy]

... buying up thousands of assault rifles they purchased online without any sort of background checks, would Conservatives be alright with it? Maybe they start training out in the woods somewhere?

How long until this happens? How would Conservatives react?

What I want to know is when in the fuck it became legal to purchase weapons online without any sort of background check??


Oh that's right....it's not....

 

[Shagly]

What I want to know is when in the fuck it became legal to purchase weapons online without any sort of background check??


Oh that's right....it's not....

When the internet was invented.

 

[BotanyBoy]

When the internet was invented.

Really?

I have never seen a gun website or catalog that doesn't require an FFL# to ship.....

If any of you spastic anti gun folks know of one you should link it as proof and then call your local ATF office.....

 

[Comshaw]

So if Muslims in America started organizing militias...
...buying up thousands of assault rifles they purchased online without any sort of background checks, would Conservatives be alright with it? Maybe they start training out in the woods somewhere?

How long until this happens? How would Conservatives react?

First someone needs to prove to me you can buy a weapon online without a background check. If it's possible, it has to be an illegal site. Personally I doubt very much if you could find such a site.

That being said, If we allow such nutcases as the Michigan Militia to buy weapons, why not law abiding Muslims? Or have I somehow missed the new law that says certain religions are banned from owning weapons?

And if the aforementioned isn't a law where is the one limiting the number of weapons a law abiding citizen can purchase? I've never heard of such a law and very much doubt the existence of one.

So the question: How would I feel if a Muslim Militia started buying massive amounts of weapons and training with those weapons? The same way I feel about all those other nut job "Militias", very, very nervous.

I'm a gun owning, card carrying member of the ACLU. As such I believe in the right to keep and bare arms. I also believe we need to do something to keep those arms from the section of the populous who shouldn't have them. To that end, my solution would be: Train me, test me, license me, then leave me the fuck alone! Once that's done, raise the penalty WAAAAAY the fuck up for having a firearm without that training and license, or using one in the commission of a crime.

I can already hear the major reason against this: "The government will know who has the guns when they come to get them." Sure they will. If it ever gets to that point, knowing who has what isn't going to matter a damn bit. And it will keep the guns from those who shouldn't have them.

Get rid of them completely you say? Sure, we can do that. But it won't cause the murder rate to go down. Those who would do that will use what ever else is at hand.

That's my http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnVfrgBe1IOBb0BPERK0hIxDEoYMlZ6ECkl-YiTq6rb7aRDpeyHaFUow.

Comshaw

 

[Shagly]

Really?

I have never seen a gun website or catalog that doesn't require an FFL# to ship.....

If any of you spastic anti gun folks know of one you should link it as proof and then call your local ATF office.....

Shop from Italy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Shop from Italy.

Show me.....

I bet the farm none of them will ship to the US without an FFL number.

 

[phrodeau]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FBwhUoSd-Y

 

[Byron In Exile]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FBwhUoSd-Y

How incredibly stupid.

If you want to be a good propagandist, don't aim your propaganda at people who already agree with you.

 

[phrodeau]

How incredibly stupid.

If you want to be a good propagandist, don't aim your propaganda at people who already agree with you.

Thanks for watching.

He's a comedian. He did it for laughs.

 

[renard_ruse]

... buying up thousands of assault rifles they purchased online without any sort of background checks, would Conservatives be alright with it? Maybe they start training out in the woods somewhere?

How long until this happens? How would Conservatives react?

Islamic people are cool. The best thing for America would be for it to embrace a little bit more Islamic values like faith, family, and hard work. Of course, I'm not a "conservative." I'm a Renardist, so I can't comment on conservatives' opinions.

 

[Busybody]

He absolutely nailed it last night (er Wed?) with his highlights of conservatives wiping their asses with the Constitution lately.

http://www.upworthy.com/its-official-fox-news-just-hit-rock-bottom-hard-and-repeatedly-3?c=bl3

The comment at the end regarding American Muslims starting militias here was a good one. And the absolute ignorance of conservatives on basic concepts such as Miranda Rights is jaw-dropping. Beetlejuice.

Im still waiting

WHATS THIS ABOUT?

 

[mercury14]

Wow...

You can buy guns online without a background check as long as the seller isn't a licensed business. As long as the seller is just a person it's all totally legal and untraceable. This is what the Toomey-Manchin bill was just talking about, where the fuck were all of you?

So back to the scenario: Muslim militias start organizing all around the country, buying thousands of guns online from anonymous private sellers and avoiding the background check process in order to make sure their terrorist watch list suspects don't get pinged by the FBI. Which conservatives here are completely fine with this?

 

[Busybody]

and the problem is what?





tell me

I got plenty of time

I'll wait



(btw, YOU don't know what WAS IN THE BILL, you didn't read it, neither did the Senate.....the above sound bite may sound reasonable......bit NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WAS IN IT)

 

[Busybody]

Wow...

You can buy guns online without a background check as long as the seller isn't a licensed business. As long as the seller is just a person it's all totally legal and untraceable. This is what the Toomey-Manchin bill was just talking about, where the fuck were all of you?

So back to the scenario: Muslim militias start organizing all around the country, buying thousands of guns online from anonymous private sellers and avoiding the background check process in order to make sure their terrorist watch list suspects don't get pinged by the FBI. Which conservatives here are completely fine with this?

they aren't?

 

[mercury14]

they aren't?

Some are, some aren't. Let's say Lit opens up a gun classified sub-forum where Ishmael and shit start posting classified ads selling their spare AR-15's*. Jihad-Joe's militia group buys their stuff. Ish doesn't have to give them a background check since he's not a business. See how that works?


* AR-15 used in this example expressly for Botany's pleasure.

 

[Busybody]

Some are, some aren't. Let's say Lit opens up a gun classified sub-forum where Ishmael and shit start posting classified ads selling their spare AR-15's*. Jihad-Joe's militia group buys their stuff. Ish doesn't have to give them a background check since he's not a business. See how that works?


* AR-15 used in this example expressly for Botany's pleasure.

So????????


The sound bite bsounds ok.........you dont know what was in it and the Senate didnt either.........

What does

J Stwerett vid have to do with anything..............


And btw..........if the fbi knew about muslims armming themselves they would do nothing

They knew about the wtc bombers....did nothing.........knew about boston bombers, did nothing..........right?

 

[mercury14]

So????????


The sound bite bsounds ok.........you dont know what was in it and the Senate didnt either.........

What does

J Stwerett vid have to do with anything..............


And btw..........if the fbi knew about muslims armming themselves they would do nothing

They knew about the wtc bombers....did nothing.........knew about boston bombers, did nothing..........right?

I know what was in the bill because I read it. It's not very long.

So I'll pencil you in as being perfectly okay with a heavily armed Muslim militia in your neighborhood.

 

[kbate]

... buying up thousands of assault rifles they purchased online without any sort of background checks, would Conservatives be alright with it? Maybe they start training out in the woods somewhere?

How long until this happens? How would Conservatives react?

Most of them would learn that most firearms purchased online can only be shipped when the seller receives a copy of the FFL from the dealer where they are going to ship the firearm, the receiving dealer performs the instant check prior to completing the transfer. Those who are on the 'lists' would not get their firearm.

Once again, you are listening to the Gun Control people and not researching the truth of firearm law before you post.

And yes, some sellers may ship directly - those who are not holding an FFL themselves can sell directly, but in the case of the internet sales monitoring purchases happens to be easy and all transactions could be traced, unlike person to person sales in a parking lot or at someone's home.

Your Islamic Militia may also run afoul of the difficulty in shipping firearms directly to any entity but a licensed dealer, collector, manufacture or government agency. All major shipping services follow strict federal laws as to shipping firearms.

 

[Busybody]

I know what was in the bill because I read it. It's not very long.

So I'll pencil you in as being perfectly okay with a heavily armed Muslim militia in your neighborhood.

At the behest of

My

Bff

Kbate

I have cleaned up my act, so

I will accept as fact that you read the bill

The

Senators, by their own admission

Did not


Give me a link............

Reading what

Batty

Just wrote, i repeat, you talked in cliche and sound biite, not factually


Btw


What. Was the point of the

Stewart video?

 

[mercury14]

Most of them would learn that most firearms purchased online can only be shipped when the seller receives a copy of the FFL from the dealer where they are going to ship the firearm, the receiving dealer performs the instant check prior to completing the transfer. Those who are on the 'lists' would not get their firearm.

AFAIK nobody was ever talking about licensed gun stores not having to perform background checks - certainly not I. The anti-background check crowd keeps trying to shift the conversation to a non-disputed issue in order to avoid having to debate the actual topic.

Once again, you are listening to the Gun Control people and not researching the truth of firearm law before you post.

Once again you're pulling a first-rate AJ impression, assigning me beliefs I never had. Exactly what sort of personal kickback do you get from this kind of dishonesty?

And yes, some sellers may ship directly - those who are not holding an FFL themselves can sell directly, but in the case of the internet sales monitoring purchases happens to be easy and all transactions could be traced, unlike person to person sales in a parking lot or at someone's home.

Yeah, person-to-person sales whether originating online or not are what I'm talking about. Craigslist sales and meetups, etc. Classified newspaper ads. Craigslist technically doesn't allow firearm sales but people do it all the time anyway.

Your Islamic Militia may also run afoul of the difficulty in shipping firearms directly to any entity but a licensed dealer, collector, manufacture or government agency. All major shipping services follow strict federal laws as to shipping firearms.

My Islamic Militia? Good grief you're awful.

And guns purchased online are easily picked up by simply driving to the buyer/seller's location.

 

[Busybody]

CURRY

Where is the LINK to the BILL?

What did Stewarts vid have to do with the issue?

 

[tactful]

What I want to know is when in the fuck it became legal to purchase weapons online without any sort of background check??


Oh that's right....it's not....

Thanks, for crushing my hopes for my Daisy Air Rifle, I hope you sleep good tonight.

 

[Byron In Exile]

My Islamic Militia? Good grief you're awful.

What's awful?

I get all my 50 cal BMGs at Jihad Joe's Gun Emporium and Prayer Center.