Military Awards Bronze Star To Air Force Chaplain For PowerPoint On Islamic Sensitivi

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Military Awards Bronze Star To Air Force Chaplain For PowerPoint On Islamic Sensitivity Training…




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An Air Force chaplain has been awarded a Bronze Star for his service in crafting an especially good PowerPoint about how to treat Islamic religious materials with sensitivity, according to Ohio’s Dayton Daily News. After U.S. troops in Afghanistan accidentally burned copies of the Koran, sparking riots that took over 30 lives, Lieutenant Colonel Jon Trainer came to the rescue:

After the accidental burning last year of Qurans by U.S. troops in Afghanistan sparked deadly rioting, an Air National Guard chaplain from Springfield stepped in and potentially saved countless American lives.

For his effort, Lt. Col. Jon Trainer received the prestigious Bronze Star — a medal given for heroic or meritorious achievement in connection with operations against an armed enemy.

And he did it with a PowerPoint presentation. . . .

Within 48 hours, Trainer developed a PowerPoint presentation on the proper handling and disposal of Islamic religious material that was seen by every American — military and civilian alike — in Afghanistan. The presentation then was distributed to the U.S. for use in all pre-deployment training

 

[Tryharder62]

I don't know how to do a powerpoint presentation.

 

[Busybody]

I don't know how to do a powerpoint presentation.

good

I will pin a MEDAL

on your CHEST

 

[Tryharder62]

Have to pin it on my rose.

 

[Busybody]

YOU CHANGED YOUR AV

 

[mercury14]

Oh no, a chaplain went way above and beyond what he had to do and got an award!

http://www.stripes.com/mobile/news/...ndling-of-islamic-religious-material-1.210742

Chaplain helped instruct troops on proper handling of Islamic religious material
By Andrew McGinn
Dayton Daily News, Ohio
Published: March 6, 2013

DAYTON, Ohio — After the accidental burning last year of Qurans by U.S. troops in Afghanistan sparked deadly rioting, an Air National Guard chaplain from Springfield stepped in and potentially saved countless American lives.

For his effort, Lt. Col. Jon Trainer received the prestigious Bronze Star — a medal given for heroic or meritorious achievement in connection with operations against an armed enemy.

And he did it with a PowerPoint presentation.

Trainer, who’s now in the running to be named Chaplain of the Year for the entire Air Guard, was in the third month of his voluntary deployment to Afghanistan last February when U.S. troops at Bagram Airfield mistakenly burned copies of the Muslim holy book.

The ensuing outrage claimed more than 30 lives, including two U.S. troops and two U.S. military advisers.

Within 48 hours, Trainer developed a PowerPoint presentation on the proper handling and disposal of Islamic religious material that was seen by every American — military and civilian alike — in Afghanistan. The presentation then was distributed to the U.S. for use in all pre-deployment training.

“This entire mission,” Trainer said from his office at the Springfield Air National Guard Base, “could be undermined by an action like that.

“All that good work. You realize how quickly that work can be undermined.”

Trainer, a Westerville resident and nondenominational Christian pastor who’s been chaplain of the local 251st Cyber Engineering Installation Group since 2000, also sought to prevent any future problems by covering what constitutes Islamic religious material in the first place.

“When a Muslim writes down even a few verses from the Quran on a piece of paper,” he explained, “that immediately gets that same protected status.”

Ultimately, he said, it became an opportunity to demonstrate the importance of culture to U.S. troops and to show Afghanis that the U.S. could respond swiftly to their sensitivities.

“It’s pretty unusual for a chaplain to receive the Bronze Star,” said Col. Wade Rupper, Trainer’s acting commander at the Springfield Guard base. “He was a vital guy at the right time.”

Trainer, 51, will find out on April 1 if he’ll be named Chaplain of the Year.

A win would be in keeping with the 251st, which recently won its 11th Air Force Outstanding Unit Award since 1973.

Trainer’s Bronze Star recommendation also credited him with overseeing the training of more than 36,000 deployed personnel in the Army’s Ask, Care, Escort suicide prevention program.

In addition, he performed all the duties expected of a chaplain, leading worship services at a cramped base in Kabul and conducting marriage counseling — often with the loved one’s spouse connected via Skype.

“It’s one of his gifts from God, to be able to relate to people,” Rupper said.

Trainer volunteered for his deployment, which ended last June, just so he could relate even more to his flock.

“People here were deploying on a regular basis,” he said. “I felt it was my turn. It becomes a credibility issue.”

During his four years in the Air Force Reserve in the 1990s, he deployed twice with the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. But he hadn’t left the U.S. in uniform since the War on Terror began.

Now, he’ll have to wait 18 months between deployments before he’s able to volunteer again.

“I’d go back if I could,” he said.

Trainer, who would like to volunteer to serve as chaplain in Antarctica next, didn’t even join the Air Force until he was 34.

“I began praying about it, and God opened some doors,” he said. “Before I knew it, I was raising my right hand. A little bit of age is good for a chaplain. It gives you some credibility.”

Trainer, a married father of two whose daughter attends Cedarville University, believes his dual role as a civilian and military pastor makes him stronger at both.

“It’s helpful for my church family to get rid of me once a month,” he joked, “and it’s good for me to be immersed in this culture.”

 

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[bra_man69]

This way back benchers and more minorities working in the supply chain can be decorated for bravery beyond the call of duty while slinging hash to meet the mess schedule.

That major who done the fort hood shooting is now a lieutenant colonel
Remember there is a wrong way a right way and a army way of doing things

 

[JohnnySavage]

This way back benchers and more minorities working in the supply chain can be decorated for bravery beyond the call of duty while slinging hash to meet the mess schedule.

Jesus.

 

[mercury14]

This way back benchers and more minorities working in the supply chain can be decorated for bravery beyond the call of duty while slinging hash to meet the mess schedule.

You don't know what chaplains do. Stop talking about the military, you don't know how it works anymore, if you ever did.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh no, a chaplain went way above and beyond what he had to do and got an award!

Except he left out the part about defiling your enemy's beliefs/history/culture in order too not only boost your morale but to further shame and dishonor those who failed to die and were instead captured.

Fuck that shit......lil blue footed AF buddy fucker should have been written up for failure to provide proper instruction on how to deal with Islamic religious material.

 

[Balladeer08]

Officers give each other BS medals all the time, in order to help each other get the next promotion.

The fact that this denigrates the medal does not bother them.

All you can do is ignore them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You don't know what chaplains do. Stop talking about the military, you don't know how it works anymore, if you ever did.

This is a quote from one Mr. Brad Colbert, SSGT USMC...as documented by rolling stone and portrayed in the HBO mini series "Generation Kill" on chaplains and I couldn't have said it any better myself.

"The point, Lance Corporal: we're supposed to be a recon unit of pure warrior spirit. We're out here, 40 clicks in enemy lines, and this man of God here, he's a fuckin' POG. In fact, he's an officer POG. That's one more layer of bureaucracy and unnecessary logistics, one more asshole we need to supply MREs and baby wipes for. And worst of all, worst of all, the motherfucker doesn't even carry a weapon. When push comes to shove even Rolling Stone picks up a gun but this fuckin' shill of God, he can't cover a sector, he'll never hump ammo or claymores. This is a fuckin' war and we're here as warriors, so on top of everything else that's expected of us do we really need to drag him along and indulge in this make-believe bullshit?"

 

[coastal-boy]

This way back benchers and more minorities working in the supply chain can be decorated for bravery beyond the call of duty while slinging hash to meet the mess schedule.

Here's more of that Marine Corp Honor shining bright.

 

[Busybody]

Jesus.

Ah, Ole Johnny Racket Bracket Cracker Pot Sav Age is here with a "comment"

 

[mercury14]

This is a quote from one Mr. Brad Colbert, SSGT USMC...as documented by rolling stone and portrayed in the HBO mini series "Generation Kill" on chaplains and I couldn't have said it any better myself.

"The point, Lance Corporal: we're supposed to be a recon unit of pure warrior spirit. We're out here, 40 clicks in enemy lines, and this man of God here, he's a fuckin' POG. In fact, he's an officer POG. That's one more layer of bureaucracy and unnecessary logistics, one more asshole we need to supply MREs and baby wipes for. And worst of all, worst of all, the motherfucker doesn't even carry a weapon. When push comes to shove even Rolling Stone picks up a gun but this fuckin' shill of God, he can't cover a sector, he'll never hump ammo or claymores. This is a fuckin' war and we're here as warriors, so on top of everything else that's expected of us do we really need to drag him along and indulge in this make-believe bullshit?"

Maybe marine chaplains are useless pieces of shit? I'm in my second decade in the USAF with regular work with the Army and Navy and I've never heard of anyone referring to a chaplain like your SSGT. All I see is an endless line of service members and their families trying to get in to see chaplains. At my last base they worked 12 hour days often without weekends and people still had to wait weeks to get an appointment with them. That and they deploy at a crazy-high frequency. Wiser staff sergeants know that not everyone is an aetheist and even most aetheists see the value in a crisis counselor.

As a military medical-mental health offier I cannot overestimate what these guys do. Chaplains are the ones who see the most floridly mentally ill people, not me. Chaplains are the ones who see the most actively suicidal and even homicidal troops, not me. They have absolute confidentiality whereas I do not, therefore they deal with a massive amount of serious stuff that's going on right there in the moment.

I'm sure someone along the way has said something similar about my role, especially when I was deployed and they had to tote our medical unit around. But I doubt they were saying much when they brought their guys to me after they were caught setting themselves on fire (because the command hallucinations told them to), couldn't remember their name, etc. It was constant.

 

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[mustang200]

This is a quote from one Mr. Brad Colbert, SSGT USMC...as documented by rolling stone and portrayed in the HBO mini series "Generation Kill" on chaplains and I couldn't have said it any better myself.

"The point, Lance Corporal: we're supposed to be a recon unit of pure warrior spirit. We're out here, 40 clicks in enemy lines, and this man of God here, he's a fuckin' POG. In fact, he's an officer POG. That's one more layer of bureaucracy and unnecessary logistics, one more asshole we need to supply MREs and baby wipes for. And worst of all, worst of all, the motherfucker doesn't even carry a weapon. When push comes to shove even Rolling Stone picks up a gun but this fuckin' shill of God, he can't cover a sector, he'll never hump ammo or claymores. This is a fuckin' war and we're here as warriors, so on top of everything else that's expected of us do we really need to drag him along and indulge in this make-believe bullshit?"

I have to consider the source, a HBO miniseries. Those lines were written by a Hollywood screenwriter, who knows nothing about the Marine Corps, and even less about Navy Chaplains with the Marines.

The Chaplains that I met when I served were almost always former enlisted Marines, and knew which end of the M-16 the bullet came out of, and how to put effective suppressive fire down.

I always wondered how those old fharts could out Marine the Marines, but they never seemed to sweat, and their utilities were always freshly starched and pressed, and they ate the same dirt that we did.

 

[julybaby04]

First.....Thank you for your service Mercury....

Second.....It does amaze me the "respect" given the Koran and the Bible is trashed and no one cares.

(theirs is NOT more important......it is just "politically" more important.... )

 

[Busybody]

Second.....It does amaze me the "respect" given the Koran and the Bible is trashed and no one cares.

the US military itself BURNED BIBLES!

 

[mercury14]

First.....Thank you for your service Mercury....

Second.....It does amaze me the "respect" given the Koran and the Bible is trashed and no one cares.

(theirs is NOT more important......it is just "politically" more important.... )

Christianity's view of a particular Bible =/= Islam's view of a particular Koran.

 

[julybaby04]

Christianity's view of a particular Bible =/= Islam's view of a particular Koran.

What do you mean?

 

[Busybody]

What do you mean?

you are KIDDING with that question

 

[mercury14]

What do you mean?

Muslims see the Koran as the literal verbatim word of God. Even the copy you get from Barnes & Noble is the verbatim speech and revelation of God. God's own speech and pure divinity dictated perfectly word-for-word from the lips of the Angel Gabriel.

The Bible is the inspired word of God, not God's own words. Moses receiving the Ten Commandments is a written account of that divine event as recorded by a person. It's divinely inspired but squarely a human product. Christian views vary from Biblical infallibility where people spend time living in whales and the earth is the center of the solar system, to the school of thought that it's entirely a human work with some vague divine spirit arching over it all. But no Christian sect that I'm aware of views the Bible the same way Islam views the Koran. We don't even know who wrote the thing.

So for you and I when someone burns a Bible, yeah it's really disrespectful but they're ultimately just burning some stuff some people wrote. They're not destroying God's own revelation to us.