How do we end special demographic based history months?

[run_silent]

No justice for the melatonin impaired. WWWWWHHHHHHHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sean]

My Danish ancestors dictated your history for some time.

And they didn't even have the decency to pay a can of corn to their rape victims.

 

[unregistered]

 

[LadyVer]

Great Society

If you succumb to the thinking fallacy of Broken Windows (Bastiat) and only examine the short-term intentions, then yes, they did good works, but when one goes a bit further into the lasting repercussions of the expanding ripples of unintended consequences, then not so much as if removing the black man from the household in order for black women and children to become locked into the government dependency designed to elevate them from poverty.

It did not work and it created generations of children without role models.

Again, Drs. Sowell and Williams have written extensively about the changes Liberal Social experimentation have made upon the black community. But visiting relatives on the reservation also taught me that lesson by direct observation.

Are you saying the civil rights act was a bad thing and that its passage is responsible for the state of black families? If I remember correctly, the majority of families now on welfare in the U.S. are white. I would guess from your pov this would be directly attributed to FDR.

Under which president was liberal social experimentation begun for American Indians? I would assume this goes back to the 19th century, if not before, when most of the Indians who were left were herded onto the reservations?

Liberal social experimentation is about as acceptable to most people as religious conservatism. Both need improvement.

I think if Bush had considered the long-term consequences of going to war, we wouldn't have half the economic problems we're now facing. It would be nice if before major decisions were made by the government that the leaders considered the long-term effects of what they do. But, they have a lifetime salary, benefits and retirement and corporations are now people, so they don't have much in the way of being set on fire to do what they were elected to do.

 

[Sean]

Probably because corn wasn't known in England at the time.

What can I say, wooden ships and iron men.

Rapists and thieves that preyed on honest people that worked for a living. Doesn't really surprise me that you admire them.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Sean]

You think your King's didn't prey on hard working people working for a living?

And I don't carry a torch for kings, you do for those that exploit the common man.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Sean]

Wait, I'm no Democrat.

No, you're a spear carrier for those that fuck the common man. You suck corporate cock, you cheerlead for those that get American servicemen killed for their own profit. You cheer for people's freedoms being curtailed when it doesn't fit your narrow morality. You're a terrible human being. You're a traitor to to what the Republic stands for.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Those who ignore special demographic based history months are condemned to repeat them.

 

[eyer]

You're a traitor to to what the Republic stands for.

Your socialist sense of "Republic" and "the common man" is best represented today by the People's Republic of China or, as us "traitor" simply call it: Communist China...

...while this grand republic, the one declared and constituted as the United States of America, is founded upon individual liberty, which naturally a statist bozo like yourself is opposed to.

You notice I didn't call you a "traitor" to this republic...

...that's only because limeys don't count in any practical discussion about it.

 

[CandiCame]

I think we have the longest of any history month, but I'm not sure about that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We learned about all of the great Indian tribes and chiefs as well. I bet half these liberal have never heard of Bass Reeves or Grant Johnson, both famous lawmen in their times. Course we learned about politically incorrect shit too, like rich black folks who owned slaves, and slaves who chose to fight for the South.

And Grandma's tribe owned slaves. The Federal Government just tried to tell them that they had to include them as members of the tribe, just like Harvard said they had to include Elizabeth Warren!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Are you saying the civil rights act was a bad thing and that its passage is responsible for the state of black families? If I remember correctly, the majority of families now on welfare in the U.S. are white. I would guess from your pov this would be directly attributed to FDR.

Under which president was liberal social experimentation begun for American Indians? I would assume this goes back to the 19th century, if not before, when most of the Indians who were left were herded onto the reservations?

Liberal social experimentation is about as acceptable to most people as religious conservatism. Both need improvement.

I think if Bush had considered the long-term consequences of going to war, we wouldn't have half the economic problems we're now facing. It would be nice if before major decisions were made by the government that the leaders considered the long-term effects of what they do. But, they have a lifetime salary, benefits and retirement and corporations are now people, so they don't have much in the way of being set on fire to do what they were elected to do.

Yes, the civil rights act was pure political theater promulgated by the notion that the individual was no longer the paramount and the paragon of minority rights but that rights had to be decided in favor of groups thus beginning the Balkanization of the American melting pot and the trend of race warlords who would race-bait white liberals into welfare and income redistribution plans that enriched nobody other then the race war lords and the guilty white liberals who could raise money based upon the need for Social Justice for minorities. Thus began the cycle of teaching minorities that they were victims unable to advance on their own merit and by their own hard work, but, and here is the dangled carrot in the story, if they continued to support the white liberal intellectual class, then they would be given more welfare, more attention, and more "rights."

That welfare and that sense of entitlement has led to two, going on three, lost generations of black youth to the great American melting pot, decreasing our richness and diversity and dividing us to the point where we can no longer talk to each other as we are now talking to enemies who want to deny us our rights or take our money to fund the rights of people that we have done no harm to in the present but who have been taught to never, ever let go of the past, for if they do, they lose their power over government largess.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Bush has just become an easy scapegoat.


We had internal divisions deep and cutting since well before his time. Ask those of us who grew up in the time of Viet Nam...


Then Nixon was the root of all our problems...

Then Reagan...

The root of all your problems is never as simple as a golem.

 

[CandiCame]

Yes, the civil rights act was pure political theater promulgated by the notion that the individual was no longer the paramount and the paragon of minority rights but that rights had to be decided in favor of groups thus beginning the Balkanization of the American melting pot and the trend of race warlords who would race-bait white liberals into welfare and income redistribution plans that enriched nobody other then the race war lords and the guilty white liberals who could raise money based upon the need for Social Justice for minorities. Thus began the cycle of teaching minorities that they were victims unable to advance on their own merit and by their own hard work, but, and here is the dangled carrot in the story, if they continued to support the white liberal intellectual class, then they would be given more welfare, more attention, and more "rights."

That welfare and that sense of entitlement has led to two, going on three, lost generations of black youth to the great American melting pot, decreasing our richness and diversity and dividing us to the point where we can no longer talk to each other as we are now talking to enemies who want to deny us our rights or take our money to fund the rights of people that we have done no harm to in the present but who have been taught to never, ever let go of the past, for if they do, they lose their power over government largess.

Then why don't we young folk experience that? I've never had any kind of tension like that with the black folk, or folk of any race for that matter. We, as a whole, are actually more akin to forget about our ancestors entirely along with their struggles. Nobody wants to think about that depressing shit. "My great grandpa was a slave" or "My great grandma was kidanapped and forced into Americinazation camps". Bitch we got cool apps and communication streams that span the globe. We're looking to the future. The past is full of savages idiots and a bunch of wars that seemed very important at the time. The present is about us, and I, for one, am quite egotysitcal. The future is about us too, but cooler then the present. We don't have time to dwell on the pain of our ancestors to the point that they bitch about it and we half listen while texting our friends.

 

[LadyVer]

Yes, the civil rights act was pure political theater promulgated by the notion that the individual was no longer the paramount and the paragon of minority rights but that rights had to be decided in favor of groups thus beginning the Balkanization of the American melting pot and the trend of race warlords who would race-bait white liberals into welfare and income redistribution plans that enriched nobody other then the race war lords and the guilty white liberals who could raise money based upon the need for Social Justice for minorities. Thus began the cycle of teaching minorities that they were victims unable to advance on their own merit and by their own hard work, but, and here is the dangled carrot in the story, if they continued to support the white liberal intellectual class, then they would be given more welfare, more attention, and more "rights."

That welfare and that sense of entitlement has led to two, going on three, lost generations of black youth to the great American melting pot, decreasing our richness and diversity and dividing us to the point where we can no longer talk to each other as we are now talking to enemies who want to deny us our rights or take our money to fund the rights of people that we have done no harm to in the present but who have been taught to never, ever let go of the past, for if they do, they lose their power over government largess.

So we have 2 or 3 lost generations due to civil rights? Interesting. So there were no lost generations before the civil rights act, only after it? Who are the race war lords?.That's the first time I've heard that term.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Then why don't we young folk experience that? I've never had any kind of tension like that with the black folk, or folk of any race for that matter. We, as a whole, are actually more akin to forget about our ancestors entirely along with their struggles. Nobody wants to think about that depressing shit. "My great grandpa was a slave" or "My great grandma was kidanapped and forced into Americinazation camps". Bitch we got cool apps and communication streams that span the globe. We're looking to the future. The past is full of savages idiots and a bunch of wars that seemed very important at the time. The present is about us, and I, for one, am quite egotysitcal. The future is about us too, but cooler then the present. We don't have time to dwell on the pain of our ancestors to the point that they bitch about it and we half listen while texting our friends.

"Nobody I know of...," reminds me of the Nixon election.

The "We're technologically advanced and more connected than ever before," is a clear generational fallacy that one encounters historically leading the edge of all the great Socialist movements but it does not in any extent abrogate actual human behavior because we have had no significant real evolution in form or societal structure (other than Capitalism, that which is feared most by people who would be tribes).

Texting does not make you smarter, it just makes you more in tune with the consensus, and the consensus is not reason but emotion and it is emotion that returns us to the primitive. No primitive society based upon the good of the groups has flourished the way society did when it was based upon the natural rights of the smallest minority, the individual.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So we have 2 or 3 lost generations due to civil rights? Interesting. So there were no lost generations before the civil rights act, only after it? Who are the race war lords?.That's the first time I've heard that term.

There was a huge boom and flourishing of wealth prior to the civil rights act, but historically most generation were lost under feudalism, mercantilism and despotic forms of government, Socialism being just a more rhetorically modern form. The race warlords are easily the visible Sharptons and Jacksons (their imitators are the RoryNs of the internet) and countless others like SHeila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters who can only think and behave along the lines of class warfare as if there were still a slave class and as if a black person is forever doomed to a certain stage in life as if Obama were never elected, RGIII was not the most popular football player going and Beyonce not he most popular singer, Eddie Murphy the most popular actor, Herman Cain a successful business man, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams...,

And what does the Socialist, collectivist consensus tell us to do when under their care, guidance and welfare, minority youth turns to misogyny, anti-education, drugs and violence? Not that they erred in messaging or packaging, but that the rest of us err by being intolerant and afraid of diversity and failing to understand the culture of the oppressed when the only thing oppressing them is their culture and outlook.

It is like my teacher used to tell me down on the reservation. "Look at all those lazy bucks blaming the white man for all their problems. All they got to do is get a job! I did! You did!"

But you see, tribal mentality; work was demeaning, they were supposed to be hunters and warriors, they clung to the primitive and did not wish to progress, and even if they tried, the white man would keep them down so why try?

Well he didn't keep my teacher down and he didn't keep me down (although he was rather fond of giving me a good beating when I did not conform to "the white man's way," you know, working hard in school, getting good grades, keeping an eye on the future, not the past).

 

[CandiCame]

"Nobody I know of...," reminds me of the Nixon election.

The "We're technologically advanced and more connected than ever before," is a clear generational fallacy that one encounters historically leading the edge of all the great Socialist movements but it does not in any extent abrogate actual human behavior because we have had no significant real evolution in form or societal structure (other than Capitalism, that which is feared most by people who would be tribes).

Texting does not make you smarter, it just makes you more in tune with the consensus, and the consensus is not reason but emotion and it is emotion that returns us to the primitive. No primitive society based upon the good of the groups has flourished the way society did when it was based upon the natural rights of the smallest minority, the individual.

I don't know if you're consciously ignoring what I'm saying or you seriously have no cultural literacy and don't understand it. Every bit of this post of yours was irrelivent. I'm saying that there is no victium complex. People of color don't blame white folk for our problems, we talk to them in several different countries while our ancestors are trying to get us to blame them. We don't give a shit about old people's problems.

 

[LadyVer]

"Nobody I know of...," reminds me of the Nixon election.

The "We're technologically advanced and more connected than ever before," is a clear generational fallacy that one encounters historically leading the edge of all the great Socialist movements but it does not in any extent abrogate actual human behavior because we have had no significant real evolution in form or societal structure (other than Capitalism, that which is feared most by people who would be tribes).

Texting does not make you smarter, it just makes you more in tune with the consensus, and the consensus is not reason but emotion and it is emotion that returns us to the primitive. No primitive society based upon the good of the groups has flourished the way society did when it was based upon the natural rights of the smallest minority, the individual.

So, I guess you really believe this? I know it may be hard for you but could you cut down on.the cerebral academic talk and just write in normal everyday stanard American English? I'm not trying to offend you but if you really want more people to understand what you're saying you should consider your audeience. I'm 2 courses short in getting a degree in French so I've seen plenty of academic speak. It only works well in academia and does not cross over well to the general public.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Really?



No black people blame white people for their plight. I am that out of touch???

Not too long ago, during the debt ceiling debate, black congressmen and women said they were called niggers and spat upon when it did not happen. Maybe that wasn't talked about much in your cocooned consensus.

Have you had LT on ignore for so long that you fail to see the evidence right under your nose?

Dude, you would have tripped on REDWAVE! Makofin too!

 

[CandiCame]

So, I guess you really believe this? I know it may be hard for you but could you cut down on.the cerebral academic talk and just write in normal everyday stanard American English? I'm not trying to offend you but if you really want more people to understand what you're saying you should consider your audeience. I'm 2 courses short in getting a degree in French so I've seen plenty of academic speak. It only works well in academia and does not cross over well to the general public.

It's not that people don't understand it, it's a board of writers. It's that you can't cloud things in jargon to make them less stupid.

 

[CandiCame]

Really?



No black people blame white people for their plight. I am that out of touch???

Not too long ago, during the debt ceiling debate, black congressmen and women said they were called niggers and spat upon when it did not happen. Maybe that wasn't talked about much in your cocooned consensus.

Have you had LT on ignore for so long that you fail to see the evidence right under your nose?

Dude, you would have tripped on REDWAVE! Makofin too!

Yeah, dude, you seriously are that out of touch. I was talking about youth. How many young senators are there? That place is like a retirement home for politicians.

 

[BotanyBoy]

it does not in any extent abrogate actual human behavior because we have had no significant real evolution in form or societal structure (other than Capitalism, that which is feared most by people who would be tribes).

Since when was Capitalism a societal/social structure?

Texting does not make you smarter, it just makes you more in tune with the consensus, and the consensus is not reason but emotion and it is emotion that returns us to the primitive. No primitive society based upon the good of the groups has flourished the way society did when it was based upon the natural rights of the smallest minority, the individual.

You mean natural rights....like being able to marry whoever the fuck you feel like because you allegedly live in a free society and paid your 150 tax when you purchased your marriage licence just like everyone else and therefor should be entitle to the same legal status/protection etc. as any other wed couple?

Maybe you mean the right for a woman to decide with her health care provider how to best manage her reproductive organs without some church going DC lawyer telling the MD how to do his job?

Maybe you mean the right for a legally consenting adult to ingest/consume whatever medication/food they want without going to prison??

How about this capitalism idea, no more trillions in welfare to the top few % of the nation??? EHHH?? EHH?? Wan't that welfare gone? Bye bye big pub billionaires.