If Obama was your employee, would you fire him?

[garbage can]

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

I would say he needs more time.

Even though he acknowledged that this was the worst recession since the great depression, he didn't realize it was much much worse....

 

[pornstarwannabe]

I would say he needs more time.

Even though he acknowledged that this was the worst recession since the great depression, he didn't realize it was much much worse....

As an manager, you'd have to evaluate his performance on the task at hand. Damage was done to the company but can be reversed if the task is completed in a hurry. As a supervisor, you too have supervisors. Can you make the decision to provide more time to Obama and defend that decision up the chain of command?

 

[run_silent]

Perhaps you need to learn the definition, considering I'm not here all that often.

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[run_silent]

I would say he needs more time.

Even though he acknowledged that this was the worst recession since the great depression, he didn't realize it was much much worse....

Do you think his ability to work with the Senate will improve? Regardless of who you want to blame do you think it will improve?

 

[garbage can]

Do you think his ability to work with the Senate will improve? Regardless of who you want to blame do you think it will improve?

All I know is..........Obama has never received a single vote in the senate for his budget submissions.

 

[run_silent]

All I know is..........Obama has never received a single vote in the senate for his budget submissions.

So will it get better? Hope and change may require a new president.

 

[Squibbs]

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[garbage can]

So will it get better? Hope and change may require a new president.

Romney has an uphill battle.

Keep in mind there are millions feeding from the gov't rice bowl.

 

[run_silent]

Romney has an uphill battle.

Keep in mind there are millions feeding from the gov't rice bowl.

I agree. I live from paycheck to paycheck. I have to decide which bill will be paid first. Because I work I'm not eligible for any government freebies. I do resent the fact if I just gave up the government would pay for my housing, food and medical. I am striving not to go to that place. If I go there that is will I'll be stuck forever.

I feel like I'm taking the harder road in hopes of bigger rewards.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Imagine for the moment that Obama is not the President, but your employee. You assign him an important task, so important in fact that the life of the company is at stake. His deadline to complete the task is time t.

So time t finally approaches and the task is not complete. Instead of coming to his supervisor (you) early on to notify you of any issues and/or concerns that impeded his progress, he essentially said nothing but instead let you think the task was going to be complete by the deadline.

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

This isn't the issue.

The issue is, as in any real world situation, do you have someone better to replace him?

 

[RobDownSouth]

The slavery issue was not a political issue, which is now driving the obstructionism. It's ALL and ONLY political gain with the GOP. When in history has everything that comes to the senate for vote need a SUPER MAJORITY? The GOP are acting like petty spoiled brats!!!!

^^^ THIS times a bazillion.

 

[garbage can]

I agree. I live from paycheck to paycheck. I have to decide which bill will be paid first. Because I work I'm not eligible for any government freebies. I do resent the fact if I just gave up the government would pay for my housing, food and medical. I am striving not to go to that place. If I go there that is will I'll be stuck forever.

I feel like I'm taking the harder road in hopes of bigger rewards.

RS, I've been down the road you describe, back then the freebies were hard to come by.

I like your attitude, I wish there were more people like yourself.
If Obama wins in Nov. you may as well jump on the gravy train, it should be plentiful for the next 4 years, or at least till he drains the tax payers dry.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I agree. I live from paycheck to paycheck. I have to decide which bill will be paid first. Because I work I'm not eligible for any government freebies. I do resent the fact if I just gave up the government would pay for my housing, food and medical. I am striving not to go to that place. If I go there that is will I'll be stuck forever.

I feel like I'm taking the harder road in hopes of bigger rewards.

What happens if you get sick & miss 3-4 days of work?

 

[fuckwaffle]

Do you think his ability to work with the Senate will improve? Regardless of who you want to blame do you think it will improve?

He's got the Senate in his pocket. Harry Reid is the obstructionist. Every bill from the house he doesn't like goes to committee where it dies a painful death.

He'd have been fired the minute his deadline was reach and he didn't have the project complete. If he had said something earlier in the project about needing more time, then maybe we could have worked something out to get him the help he needed. But instead of doing the required project, he was off doing stupid shit like develop useless screen savers and such...it's just not an excuse.

 

[fuckwaffle]

All I know is..........Obama has never received a single vote in the senate for his budget submissions.

That's because they have never come out of the house. But the budgets that have been passed, where sent to the senate where they died in committee.

 

[fuckwaffle]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72dxq3Icd1qazvf5o1_500.jpg

And that's a lie.

 

[RobDownSouth]

And that's a lie.

It's a "$77,000 passive loss carry forward" not a tax credit goddammit!

That.....That.....THAT'S DIFFERENT!

 

[Shagly]

Imagine for the moment that Obama is not the President, but your employee. You assign him an important task, so important in fact that the life of the company is at stake. His deadline to complete the task is time t.

So time t finally approaches and the task is not complete. Instead of coming to his supervisor (you) early on to notify you of any issues and/or concerns that impeded his progress, he essentially said nothing but instead let you think the task was going to be complete by the deadline.

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

That depends on if Obama was in a union.

 

[fuckwaffle]

It's a "$77,000 passive loss carry forward" not a tax credit goddammit!

That.....That.....THAT'S DIFFERENT!

Hehehe, and if you wanted to take that carry forward loss would you? Of course you would because that's the way the tax system is set up, all 79,000 page so of it.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Imagine for the moment that Obama is not the President, but your employee. You assign him an important task, so important in fact that the life of the company is at stake. His deadline to complete the task is time t.

So time t finally approaches and the task is not complete. Instead of coming to his supervisor (you) early on to notify you of any issues and/or concerns that impeded his progress, he essentially said nothing but instead let you think the task was going to be complete by the deadline.

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

I would continue to employ him, but I would demote him.

 

[Ishmael]

Well, since when he submitted his plans the timetable was 10 years and it's less then half that, I might schedual a meeting to address perceived problems or something like that, but I don't think that there's any real action that would be taken for good or bad at that point.

Keep. I've been in more than one situation where the job I was hired to do simply wasn't possible.

I'd look at why a certain block of his fellow employees opposed everything he did on principle alone

and if a better skilled employee came along, I would certainly hire them if my current employess had failed me... but seeing as the only other one applying hasnt demonstrated any understanding of the job, i would be opposed to it

The thing is, your analogy is off the scale wrong. Obama did indeed, though his team of staffers, notify his employer (the people) continously exactly which of his certain goals he wasn't able to accomplish and why.

You just didn't pay attention to it. Or chose not to listen because you didn't like the answers. Which makes you a shitty boss.

I'd keep him and then clean house and get rid of every asshole who blocked any good he tried to earnestly and honestly do. No president is perfect, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone ever have as much blocked work done just because the good ol' boys didn't like him. He did represent change, and it they didn't like it. So, they've done everything possible to block every thing he has tried to do, and then turn around, mealy mouthed, and say he has done nothing at all.

This isn't the issue.

The issue is, as in any real world situation, do you have someone better to replace him?

Is there an end to this madness?

First we're confronted with a 10 year plan for a presidency that is 8 years, max. Where did this moron go to school?

Next we're confronted with the assertion that the current president was too stupid to understand the job he was hired to do, and campaigned to do, was impossible. That being the case, why would anyone presume the next 4 years are going to be any less impossible?

Then we are further confronted with the notion that we should all be willing to abandon our principles. Perhaps this is based on a philosophy that no one should have any principles at all. This notion does nothing to bolster the posters credibility re. employee evaluation.

Then we're informed of why the president has been a failure. And indeed, the poster is entirely correct, the president has asserted, time after time, that it's someone elses fault, except for killing bin Laden.

And lastly we have a wannabe Hitlerite wanting a rubber stamp government and a political cleansing.

Too funny.

Ishmael

 

[Byron In Exile]

Is there an end to this madness?

First we're confronted with a 10 year plan for a presidency that is 8 years, max. Where did this moron go to school?

Next we're confronted with the assertion that the current president was too stupid to understand the job he was hired to do, and campaigned to do, was impossible. That being the case, why would anyone presume the next 4 years are going to be any less impossible?

Then we are further confronted with the notion that we should all be willing to abandon our principles. Perhaps this is based on a philosophy that no one should have any principles at all. This notion does nothing to bolster the posters credibility re. employee evaluation.

Then we're informed of why the president has been a failure. And indeed, the poster is entirely correct, the president has asserted, time after time, that it's someone elses fault, except for killing bin Laden.

And lastly we have a wannabe Hitlerite wanting a rubber stamp government and a political cleansing.

Too funny.

No. There is no end to it.

You've read 1984, right?

Orwell knew where it was going fifty years ago...

 

[Ishmael]

No. There is no end to it.

You've read 1984, right?

Orwell knew where it was going fifty years ago...

Animal Farm was the seminal work, 1984 was merely a treatise on the means to get there, and the consequence.

There is no new world left to go to. It's going to get bloody and sooner than many may expect. The signs are all there, and not of any Biblical origin.

Ishmael

 

[ChinaBandit]

Obama 78
Bush 180

Days on vacation through three years as President.

European leaders take at least 78 days a year.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Animal Farm was the seminal work, 1984 was merely a treatise on the means to get there, and the consequence.

There is no new world left to go to. It's going to get bloody and sooner than many may expect. The signs are all there, and not of any Biblical origin.

Impossible.

If you haven't seen past Animal Farm??

I don't know what to say. Honestly, Animal Farm is the primer for 1984.

It's here.

This is the deal.

It's... exactly what Orwell predicted. Curse him or whatever, this is 1984.

Welcome to the real world.