If Obama was your employee, would you fire him?

[pornstarwannabe]

Imagine for the moment that Obama is not the President, but your employee. You assign him an important task, so important in fact that the life of the company is at stake. His deadline to complete the task is time t.

So time t finally approaches and the task is not complete. Instead of coming to his supervisor (you) early on to notify you of any issues and/or concerns that impeded his progress, he essentially said nothing but instead let you think the task was going to be complete by the deadline.

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

 

[CandiCame]

Well, since when he submitted his plans the timetable was 10 years and it's less then half that, I might schedual a meeting to address perceived problems or something like that, but I don't think that there's any real action that would be taken for good or bad at that point.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Keep. I've been in more than one situation where the job I was hired to do simply wasn't possible.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Well, since when he submitted his plans the timetable was 10 years and it's less then half that, I might schedual a meeting to address perceived problems or something like that, but I don't think that there's any real action that would be taken for good or bad at that point.

That timetable is not correct. He promised to complete many sub-tasks by time t (the 4 year mark). Clearly that has not happened. It's a tough decision as a supervisor. What would you discuss in that meeting that you'd schedule with him?

 

[badbabysitter]

I'd look at why a certain block of his fellow employees opposed everything he did on principle alone

and if a better skilled employee came along, I would certainly hire them if my current employess had failed me... but seeing as the only other one applying hasnt demonstrated any understanding of the job, i would be opposed to it

 

[Adre]

That timetable is not correct. He promised to complete many sub-tasks by time t (the 4 year mark). Clearly that has not happened. It's a tough decision as a supervisor. What would you discuss in that meeting that you'd schedule with him?

If I fire him will you shut up and go away? That will help with my decision.

 

[RjThoughts]

I would fire employees who constantly snark, back-stab, cause disruption, make it impossible for others to conduct business or even have healthy discussions. You know, some one like


YOU Wannabe!!!!!!!

 

[Liar]

Imagine for the moment that Obama is not the President, but your employee. You assign him an important task, so important in fact that the life of the company is at stake. His deadline to complete the task is time t.

So time t finally approaches and the task is not complete. Instead of coming to his supervisor (you) early on to notify you of any issues and/or concerns that impeded his progress, he essentially said nothing but instead let you think the task was going to be complete by the deadline.

The damage to the company is done, but could be reversed.
a. Do you keep Obama on the task and provide more time?
b. Do you replace him with a different employee that has the skill set to complete such a task?
c. If not a/b, what do you do?

The thing is, your analogy is off the scale wrong. Obama did indeed, though his team of staffers, notify his employer (the people) continously exactly which of his certain goals he wasn't able to accomplish and why.

You just didn't pay attention to it. Or chose not to listen because you didn't like the answers. Which makes you a shitty boss.

 

[run_silent]

I would fire him. You can complain and whine but the DC political system exists and hasn't changed in decades. Obama can't work with it and says it's not his fault blames someone else. Bill Clinton found a way to make it work.

 

[RjThoughts]

I would fire him. You can complain and whine but the DC political system exists and hasn't changed in decades. Obama can't work with it and says it's not his fault blames someone else. Bill Clinton found a way to make it work.

Clinton didn't have THIS level of obstructionism!!!! No one has!!!!

 

[run_silent]

Clinton didn't have THIS level of obstructionism!!!! No one has!!!!

Read up on the slavery issue.

 

[RjThoughts]

Read up on the slavery issue.

I'm talking recent history, like for most in GB that begins when Reagan first was elected.

 

[JustSkye]

I'd keep him and then clean house and get rid of every asshole who blocked any good he tried to earnestly and honestly do. No president is perfect, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone ever have as much blocked work done just because the good ol' boys didn't like him. He did represent change, and it they didn't like it. So, they've done everything possible to block every thing he has tried to do, and then turn around, mealy mouthed, and say he has done nothing at all.

 

[run_silent]

I'm talking recent history, like for most in GB that begins when Reagan first was elected.

That is a non answer. At first you said it never happened but now you say in recent history. As I suggested read up on history and then make claims.

Look into Reagan and you will find he made it work.

 

[RjThoughts]

That is a non answer. At first you said it never happened but now you say in recent history. As I suggested read up on history and then make claims.

Look into Reagan and you will find he made it work.

The slavery issue was not a political issue, which is now driving the obstructionism. It's ALL and ONLY political gain with the GOP. When in history has everything that comes to the senate for vote need a SUPER MAJORITY? The GOP are acting like petty spoiled brats!!!!

 

[unregistered]

 

[Cade Is Here]

He would've been fired a long time ago. He takes way to many vacations and never takes blame for his own actions.

 

[GiggLeGasm]

This discussion is reading as if "Obama had perfect answers and all those other assholes got in his way."
The reality is somewhere in the middle..
He addressed issues that needed to be addressed, but his answers weren't/aren't perfect. Part of the reason we don't have a dictatorship is to maintain a balance. The government isn't ONLY allowed to represent the poor.. or the middle class.. or the wealthy. Since when are people who can afford healthcare not entitled to a voice in their own government? Since when do we assume that all who disagree are bad?
Our country is built on disagreement and the constant evolution that comes when we search for better answers. We've never taken ONE MAN'S answer.. and we shouldn't.

 

[JustSkye]

Fucking bullshit, he did it to himself. He had all three branches of government for two years and all he ever cared about was socialized medicine and other stupid platitudes the VAST majority of Americans were not interested in. He could have gotten anything done he wanted to, he didn't need a single Republican vote to do it either. The incompetent fool presented a budget so clueless he couldn't get a single Democrat vote let alone a Republican vote. He never tried to do anything "good." He's a failure, pure and simple, but starry eyed idealists lost in fantasy land can't see it.

Funny,

I don't even remotely see him as a loser. However, a man that sits on a porn site bitching about him day in and day out, making thread after thread...that's a loser.

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

 

[run_silent]

The slavery issue was not a political issue

OK, I now officially give up on debating with you.

 

[Adre]

He would've been fired a long time ago. He takes way to many vacations and never takes blame for his own actions.

Obama 78
Bush 180

Days on vacation through three years as President.

 

[run_silent]

Funny,

I don't even remotely see him as a loser. However, a man that sits on a porn site bitching about him day in and day out, making thread after thread...that's a loser.

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

Irony

Post count 49,801

 

[RjThoughts]

OK, I now officially give up on debating with you.

Seriously, slavery was MORE than just a political issue. Right now, the GOP is being stubborn, wanting SUper Majorities on EVERYTHING in the Senate, for PURE POLITICAL GAIN!!

Slavery was MORE, it was a deep seeded way for people.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Some of you are way off base. Saying you'd fire everyone that blocked Obama the Employee is saying you'd fire abut 1/2 of your employees. That's silly. In this thread, Obama is an employee. Treat him like on.

 

[JustSkye]

Irony

Post count 49,801

Perhaps you need to learn the definition, considering I'm not here all that often.