The Last Thing You Thought...

[DarkWarrioress]

It's who I am.

LT: Sadly though, I'm gonna have to take my leave. Good night all especially you Neko.

*kisses his two finger and presses them to Neko's before leaving.*

Night Spec. Sleep well.

 

[Firmhanded_Daddy]

He's a really playful boy so yeah he tries to pull. I have a choke collar he wears but I never walk him on that. That's just for making him look manly! He is always walked on a harness, not sure how he'll like anything else.

I have more of a problem keeping up. I walk slow when things are acting up and he isn't really patient. Plus normally the pain has me done before he's ready to head back. I'm just glad we have a fenced yard so he can run around even if I can't. I miss playing soccer and tugawar with him.

He's great though because its like he's understanding I can't play as much and he's calming down from his hyper active ways

The pinch collar is similar to a choke except instead of constricting the neck it has little prongs that mimic when an animal grabs another by the throat.

I know it sounds really cruel but really it is how animals communicate with one another, how a mom corrects a pups behavior. So when they start to pull the pinch tightens and it triggers the instinct that they are doing wrong and generally they back off.

I tried the harness with my boys, it didn't do nothin'. Normal leash was just a big game of tug o' war too.

Something to consider maybe. They are pretty cheap but you have to make sure they fit right. And don't pull on the leash with it like you would a choke collar. Or you will hurt them.

 

[choklatekoneko]

Smile at him, watching, her blush deepening. Before he left, she gave him a quick peck on his cheek, giggling a bit.

Good night, Spec. Sleep well.

 

[Firmhanded_Daddy]

It's who I am.

LT: Sadly though, I'm gonna have to take my leave. Good night all especially you Neko.

*kisses his two finger and presses them to Neko's before leaving.*

Night!

 

[BeautifulDream]

The pinch collar is similar to a choke except instead of constricting the neck it has little prongs that mimic when an animal grabs another by the throat.

I know it sounds really cruel but really it is how animals communicate with one another, how a mom corrects a pups behavior. So when they start to pull the pinch tightens and it triggers the instinct that they are doing wrong and generally they back off.

I tried the harness with my boys, it didn't do nothin'. Normal leash was just a big game of tug o' war too.

Something to consider maybe. They are pretty cheap but you have to make sure they fit right. And don't pull on the leash with it like you would a choke collar. Or you will hurt them.

I'll have to look into one. It still makes me sad that he has to slow down for me

 

[DarkWarrioress]

I'll have to look into one. It still makes me sad that he has to slow down for me

It'll help them learn to calm down a bit. They shouldn't be tugging at you when out for a walk anyway.

 

[Firmhanded_Daddy]

I'll have to look into one. It still makes me sad that he has to slow down for me

I know hon, but they are in tune. My boys know when I am not feeling good. Sometimes when I am in really bad shape and can't get out of bed? They will come lay outside my door (They are not allowed in my room)

They lay out there and wait for dad to be well enough to come see them and it makes me smile so much. They are such a bright spot in my life, one of the few things that helps me keep putting one foot in front of the other.

 

[BeautifulDream]

It'll help them learn to calm down a bit. They shouldn't be tugging at you when out for a walk anyway.

Yeah, that's like his only bad thing. He's a wonderful dog otherwise. He doesn't jump, he doesn't chew stuff up.

He's a angel when he's around kids. My four year old God daughter loves to walk him and he is perfect! I think he just likes to pull me.

I know hon, but they are in tune. My boys know when I am not feeling good. Sometimes when I am in really bad shape and can't get out of bed? They will come lay outside my door (They are not allowed in my room)

They lay out there and wait for dad to be well enough to come see them and it makes me smile so much. They are such a bright spot in my life, one of the few things that helps me keep putting one foot in front of the other.

Yeah dogs are great. My dog has done so much for me. He's been there for me through some really tough times. I'm so thankful for him.

 

[DarkWarrioress]

Yeah, that's like his only bad thing. He's a wonderful dog otherwise. He doesn't jump, he doesn't chew stuff up.

He's a angel when he's around kids. My four year old God daughter loves to walk him and he is perfect! I think he just likes to pull me.


Yeah dogs are great. My dog has done so much for me. He's been there for me through some really tough times. I'm so thankful for him.

He just knows he can tug with you. The pinch collar will help with that. My brother use to work for Petco (over 10years worth) I've learned a few things from him.

Dogs, like FD mentioned, are intuitive. My girl always knows when something is bothering me. She comes up and flops beside me on the bed when I don't feel so good or slides her wet nose against my cheek with a small whine. She's also really really good with some of the kids that come to visit. She's really careful around the young ones.

They're such blessings. I don't know what I would do without her.

 

[BeautifulDream]

He just knows he can tug with you. The pinch collar will help with that. My brother use to work for Petco (over 10years worth) I've learned a few things from him.

Dogs, like FD mentioned, are intuitive. My girl always knows when something is bothering me. She comes up and flops beside me on the bed when I don't feel so good or slides her wet nose against my cheek with a small whine. She's also really really good with some of the kids that come to visit. She's really careful around the young ones.

They're such blessings. I don't know what I would do without her.

I'll have to look into one, thanks for the advice.

I know what you mean, I'd be lost without my boy!





LT: Time to take a trip to the dream world.... hopefully.

Good night Beautiful People.

 

[Firmhanded_Daddy]

I'll have to look into one, thanks for the advice.

I know what you mean, I'd be lost without my boy!





LT: Time to take a trip to the dream world.... hopefully.

Good night Beautiful People.

Sounds like a great plan. I'ma take my girl there too. Night litsters!

 

[DarkWarrioress]

Sounds like a great plan. I'ma take my girl there too. Night litsters!

Night whoever is still out there

*goes off to bed with him*

 

[Heidi123]

You are going to be alright...

 

[yeishia]

Pain killers more sleep then an attempt to crawl out of bed I think.

 

[Nina327]

Why in the flying fuck am I trying to go to this birthday party!
THe weather sucks. It makes me nervous to drive in it.
But... I'm still getting ready because I said I would.

 

[Erlind]

Why in the flying fuck am I trying to go to this birthday party!
THe weather sucks. It makes me nervous to drive in it.
But... I'm still getting ready because I said I would.

Don't do it Nina! Its a trap! The delicious birthday cake is just bait.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

Yeah, I fell asleep and missed all the collar talk, but.. pinch collar is way better than a choke collar. They train way better on it, and you don't run the danger of crushing their windpipe. Also, definitely no more pulling.

 

[Light Ice]

Pinch Collars are awful. I really don't condone their use. You can accomplish the same effect with a common collar, or walking harness, and the use of chokes and prongs are for the chronically lazy. Do not pull on the leash when the dog begins to get ahead of you. Use short, downward tugs to control the dog's head movement and keep it focused on where you are. The short movements snap the dog out of its present mindset and inclinations and forces it to recheck itself with an awareness of you. A verbal command "Heel" can help you gradually replace the leash correction with a verbal correction.

This needs to be applied consistently and throughout the dog's formative months to be most effective. If you walk daily, or twice daily, and use this method without relent the dog will heel in about three weeks. I use the command "With Me" because I've several other one word commands that have a similar start sound to "Heel" and also out of personal preference.

For most dogs, though, one-word is the way to go.

I really, really can't say strongly enough how much I don't agree with choke or pinch collars. They are absolutely unnecessary for training. The dog, truly, isn't being trained. It's being punished. That difference is subtle but important. A dog that has behavior that is corrected through punishment will never be as well-behaved or as positively balanced as an animal that's been properly trained. This is a common, common weakness in dog owners and you see it constantly in leash-training and barking correction.

Do the additional leg-work. Do the additional courtesy to your animal.

 

[Britwitch]

LT ~ Two posts to go. C'mon, you can do it!!

FLT ~ Never liked choke chains, always thought them cruel. We use a harness and if they pulled we stopped walking, as well as using commands. They soon learnt they'd get where they wanted quicker if they just walked at the speed we set rather than pulling-stopping-pulling-stopping ad nauseam.

 

[andygorn]

"Italian football back on tv - great!"

 

[Nina327]

Don't do it Nina! Its a trap! The delicious birthday cake is just bait.

-sighs- I could make a better cake than the one being used as bait.

It's the people that are the real bait. It's my girlfriends daughter, dammit.


Why the hell did she have to move 2 hours away any damned way!?


On the other topic. I have never used pinch or choke collars. Never felt the need for either. Simple commands, patience and body language go so much farther towards an animal that wants to behave rather than one that only stops themselves because they fear pain.

 

[DarkWarrioress]

As a general rule, I never use pinch collars BUT I think it depends on the animal. I had a wolf cross that was just plain stubborn and head strong, not to mention just plain damn strong. I'd stop walking and she made sure I didn't. I'm pretty strong. I can't begin to describe it. I loved her dearly but she just would not listen and I changed tactics over the years. The only thing that got her to behave was the pinch collar. It took a little while but she got it eventually. Every now and then after that, she'd get a wild hair and I'd have to slip it on her.

 

[Light Ice]

LT ~ Two posts to go. C'mon, you can do it!!

FLT ~ Never liked choke chains, always thought them cruel. We use a harness and if they pulled we stopped walking, as well as using commands. They soon learnt they'd get where they wanted quicker if they just walked at the speed we set rather than pulling-stopping-pulling-stopping ad nauseam.

It's essentially your will over their will. I refuse to accept anything else as an acceptable confrontation. The use of implements that delivery pain to heel a dog whether it be a choke, pinch, or shock collar speaks volumes to the weakness of the trainer.

 

[Light Ice]

As a general rule, I never use pinch collars BUT I think it depends on the animal. I had a wolf cross that was just plain stubborn and head strong, not to mention just plain damn strong. I'd stop walking and she made sure I didn't. I'm pretty strong. I can't begin to describe it. I loved her dearly but she just would not listen and I changed tactics over the years. The only thing that got her to behave was the pinch collar. It took a little while but she got it eventually. Every now and then after that, she'd get a wild hair and I'd have to slip it on her.

Wolf crosses are another conversation and shouldn't be confused with the domestic dog breeds that exist. I've strong feelings on that subject but it's a different conversation.

 

[PollySays]

I can never use a collar of those sorts ever again.
I made the mistake of leaving my dog with my father, having used a chain collar on my pup to walk with him.
Dad never took that collar off him and would leave him out while at work, letting my pup pull on that collar all day. I came home after merely a week and my dog's neck had been mauled, sawed into by the chain.

I realize this was caused by my dad's poor decision.
But I still cannot get that image out of my head when I see a collar like that on a dog.