The afterlife does not exist

[Mike_Yates]

It is utterly impossible for consciousness to survive death because consciousness is governed entirely by the brain.

After brain death, you simply cease to exist. PERIOD.

The falsehoods of theology have been used simply as a tool for social control.

The world we see in front of us is the only one that is.

God does not exist.

 

[phrodeau]

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We keep track of time now from before and after his death. Even if you don't believe in what he is that in itself shows he was important on earth.

We name the days of the week after Nordic and Roman gods. We name the months of the year after Roman and Etruscan gods, and a pair of Caesars. Does that make them important?

 

[kbate]

It is utterly impossible for consciousness to survive death because consciousness is governed entirely by the brain.

After brain death, you simply cease to exist. PERIOD.

The falsehoods of theology have been used simply as a tool for social control.

The world we see in front of us is the only one that is.

God does not exist.

Your theory is interesting. It is also impossible to prove or disprove (at this time). I happen to believe you are correct but I also plan to hedge my bets by repenting and confessing my sins 3 minutes before I die.

 

[Mike_Yates]

If you were on your deathbed and knew that you were imminently facing eternal oblivion, what would be going through your mind?

http://www.crystalinks.com/deathbed.jpg

 

[Sean]

If you were on your deathbed and knew that you were imminently facing eternal oblivion, what would be going through your mind?

Fucking IMMENSE amounts of drugs, with a bit of luck.

 

[Sean]

Your theory is interesting. It is also impossible to prove or disprove (at this time). I happen to believe you are correct but I also plan to hedge my bets by repenting and confessing my sins 3 minutes before I die.

Blaise! How's you, bro? Still French?

 

[Mike_Yates]

http://dying.about.com/od/thedyingprocess/a/process.htm

Science and medicine are quite certain that the afterlife is nonexistent.

 

[Loring2]

No No

Two points that prove your stupidity. Forget Mike. His is a special case, documented by below average IQ scores.

1. You (and Mike) used what is known as a "circular argument" -- an argument that commits the logical fallacy of assuming what it is attempting to prove. Also known as begging the question. The whole point of an afterlife is having a new consciousness in another realm after a bodily death. You don't prove or disprove anything by simply denying that premise by asserting that dead people are unconscious.

2. I intentionally used the words "pained" and "inventions" in my last reply to you to hint at your misuse of the word "conscientious." You meant "conscious." Conscientious means to be mindful of or exercising an appropriate standard of care.

"Conscious" means to be alert and awake. Something you've yet to demonstrate in this thread.

Hogan, you need to be careful. You actually wrote something in English which is logically true. I believe that is contrary to common rule on this entire site.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Hospice patients and the terminally ill are usually given drugs to sedate them in the days and weeks prior to their death.

People who have "died" and were then revived claim that they have absolutely no cognitive recollection of what occurred during the time that they were dead. it is just like being "asleep".

I'm assuming that this is exactly what it is like being dead, for eternity!

 

[kbate]

Blaise! How's you, bro? Still French?

You should make a lit thread for everyone to Blaise their way to heaven.

Would a conversion and confession count if done on Lit?

 

[kbate]

Hospice patients and the terminally ill are usually given drugs to sedate them in the days and weeks prior to their death.

People who have "died" and were then revived claim that they have absolutely no cognitive recollection of what occurred during the time that they were dead.

Still not proof.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Still not proof.

There is absolutely NO science whatsoever to support consciousness surviving physical death!

Religion is a lie meant and used solely to control the masses!

 

[Sean]

You should make a lit thread for everyone to Blaise their way to heaven.

Would a conversion and confession count if done on Lit?

No amount of confession or penance is going to excuse the abomination that is "Blaise their way to heaven."

 

[Byron In Exile]

It is utterly impossible for consciousness to survive death because consciousness is governed entirely by the brain.

After brain death, you simply cease to exist. PERIOD.

The falsehoods of theology have been used simply as a tool for social control.

The world we see in front of us is the only one that is.

God does not exist.

"The world we see..."?

And what are we that see it?

 

[Mike_Yates]

"The world we see..."?

And what are we that see it?

Biological machines.

 

[kbate]

No amount of confession or penance is going to excuse the abomination that is "Blaise their way to heaven."

I rather liked it.

So there!

 

[Sean]

I rather liked it.

So there!

You've been spending too much time with the equines, Dave.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Biological machines.

That doesn't explain consciousness.

 

[kbate]

You've been spending too much time with the equines, Dave.

pfft.

Best Pun in years on this board. Years.

peasant.

 

[Mike_Yates]

That doesn't explain consciousness.

Consciousness is indeed indescribably complex and difficult to explain, but it is a product of neurochemical and neuroelectrical reactions.

 

[kbate]

That doesn't explain consciousness.

`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Religion is nothing more than a tool for societal control and a bi-product of human nature.

Theological beliefs about an afterlife and spiritual realm are bogus and scientifically false.

 

[Sean]

pfft.

Best Pun in years on this board. Years.

You keep telling yourself that and eventually there will be at least one person that thinks so.

peasant.

And DAMN proud of it.

Rosco once called me the ruling class' nightmare, working class educated. I rather liked that.

 

[kbate]

Religion is nothing more than a tool for societal control and a bi-product of human nature.

Theological beliefs about an afterlife and spiritual realm are bogus and scientifically false.

Good. You have two more theories. Now you must provide proofs, or at the least evidence supporting your theory.

 

[strapon_tales]

Of course it doesn't. What a ridiculous notion.