The Power of a Voice

[blobfish]

That's what I see in many relationships. Two people pretending to be normal and slowly building up to critical crazy mass.

I prefer my system. Ulaven and I both have "get out of crazy free" cards and we can invoke them. We just can't invoke them at the same time.

I'm not sure that such a system would work for me. I'm rarely normal, and I prefer people who are the same. Maybe two crazy people can survive together if they live far enough away from the nearest neighbors.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

He's aware that anybody taking offense to him here is doing it on an entirely voluntary basis.

I don't actually know any normal people...but the ones pretending to be normal are tiresome.

Oh! My psychological profile is pretty bland. But my anxiety level is very low (1st percentile) and my psychopathological deviancy score is pretty high (75th percentile), and that means I was a good soldier and fireman and other dangerous work....working in a psychiatric hospital, capturing violent people alone.

I'd like to be loved and esteemed by all but I wont compromise my basic honesty and principles. And I do like to push buttons to see what people do.

 

[Recidiva]

I'm not sure that such a system would work for me. I'm rarely normal, and I prefer people who are the same. Maybe two crazy people can survive together if they live far enough away from the nearest neighbors.

I think that's what's so sad about people deciding they're "too strange" to ever be loved. I made the same mistake myself. I was wrong. I just needed someone with equal and opposite strangeness to balance me out. We can each be crazy in our turns and incredibly grateful that the other person not only is charmed by the entire affair, but helps bury the bodies.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm moving ><

I mail them to my GF on Long Island.

 

[Recidiva]

Oh! My psychological profile is pretty bland. But my anxiety level is very low (1st percentile) and my psychopathological deviancy score is pretty high (75th percentile), and that means I was a good soldier and fireman and other dangerous work....working in a psychiatric hospital, capturing violent people alone.

I'd like to be loved and esteemed by all but I wont compromise my basic honesty and principles. And I do like to push buttons to see what people do.

Yes, you've been pretty honest about yourself and that's what cracks me up. You come forth with a lot about yourself when asked and it suits your mood.

I know the irony of being honest and being considered a liar based on personal dislike. "Honesty" is considered to be a "good" trait and it just can't exist in "bad" people. Just makes me do it more. I assume you get a kick out of it.

 

[Recidiva]

I mail them to my GF on Long Island.

Yesssss! I'll take good care of them. Had to cancel my membership to an organic produce delivery system. After surgery I couldn't lift them or prepare them and then the moving thing just made it seem silly. I need to use up all the frozen stuff.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yes, you've been pretty honest about yourself and that's what cracks me up. You come forth with a lot about yourself when asked and it suits your mood.

I know the irony of being honest and being considered a liar based on personal dislike. "Honesty" is considered to be a "good" trait and it just can't exist in "bad" people. Just makes me do it more. I assume you get a kick out of it.

About the only time I lie is to be sensitive to anothers grief and ill fortune. I know more crap about my friends and neighbors but wont reveal a word of what I know about them. Like...one of my neighbors sells sex on CraigsList. She has no idea I figgered it out.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yesssss! I'll take good care of them. Had to cancel my membership to an organic produce delivery system. After surgery I couldn't lift them or prepare them and then the moving thing just made it seem silly. I need to use up all the frozen stuff.

I have 3 freezers full of veggies, plus storage shelves loaded with pickles, jams, jellies etc. I send my GF large broccoli, spinach, lettuce, etc. in the Winter.

 

[Recidiva]

About the only time I lie is to be sensitive to anothers grief and ill fortune. I know more crap about my friends and neighbors but wont reveal a word of what I know about them. Like...one of my neighbors sells sex on CraigsList. She has no idea I figgered it out.

Oh, me too. I've saved lives by dying. Promised someone who had taken a bunch of sleeping pills that I'd just take them to say goodbye to my daughter and I absolutely would not take them to the hospital no matter what.

Lied. Called an ambulance from inside the daycare.

I think lying is an absolutely necessary survival skill and if you can't do it well get some damned practice. I've saved a few lives and lives from shattering needlessly with it. Many truths are not mine to tell, but if I can't keep a straight face while lying about it I can't do anybody any favors.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

JBJ is an author and he pushes buttons and look at reactions and then he writes a story about it. He's clinical. I've met much, much worse online than JBJ.

But his pushing buttons online is easy and safe. Empty calorie. No risk, no nutrition, no progress, no learning or evolution. No actual benefits for either side. You're just killing time.

I'd be way more impressed if he pushed buttons the same way to people in the meat world, where tactile sensations and concepts like the fear of one's mortality in the face of the unknown have much better range and longer-lasting education value. Like, with someone like Bernhard Goetz.

 

[Recidiva]

I have 3 freezers full of veggies, plus storage shelves loaded with pickles, jams, jellies etc. I send my GF large broccoli, spinach, lettuce, etc. in the Winter.

I will be in prime growing territory, but I won't be doing it. I grew up with an excellent garden, but we're right on the border of a state park (part of the joy of living there) and there are bears and deer. My parents have over the years weeded out loads and loads of deer candy and mostly what's left is roses and flowers and herbs. So I'll be maintaining her garden happily. It just won't have yummy stuff in it, only pretty stuff and herby stuff.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I think that's what's so sad about people deciding they're "too strange" to ever be loved. I made the same mistake myself. I was wrong. I just needed someone with equal and opposite strangeness to balance me out. We can each be crazy in our turns and incredibly grateful that the other person not only is charmed by the entire affair, but helps bury the bodies.

Every pot has a lid, I say.

I meant to tell you that I discovered that a female poster at AH is really a male. I learned it by accident. Just dum luck that dropped into my lap one day. I wont reveal who he is, tho.

 

[Recidiva]

But his pushing buttons online is easy and safe. Empty calorie. No risk, no nutrition, no progress, no learning or evolution. You're just killing time.

I'd be way more impressed if he pushed buttons the same way to people in the meat world, where tactile sensations and concepts like the fear of one's mortality in the face of the unknown have much better range and long-lasting education value. Like, with someone like Bernhard Goetz.

I'm not saying more power to him, I'm saying I get it and there's nothing to be done to change it once that's understood.

I'm not impressed, in fact I think he has done a great deal of harm to sensitive people and he knows that as well. What he feels about it I don't know, other than that I think he thinks he's toughening them up or smartening them up or just wants to fuck with the vulnerable for free.

To hear tell he's paid his dues in that regard and I don't find that out of the realm of possibility, that he's done good if only to keep the competition down.

 

[blobfish]

But his pushing buttons online is easy and safe. Empty calorie. No risk, no nutrition, no progress, no learning or evolution. No actual benefits for either side. You're just killing time.

I'd be way more impressed if he pushed buttons the same way to people in the meat world, where tactile sensations and concepts like the fear of one's mortality in the face of the unknown have much better range and longer-lasting education value. Like, with someone like Bernhard Goetz.

Would you be impressed if he was a guy like Fritz Kuhn? I doubt it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I will be in prime growing territory, but I won't be doing it. I grew up with an excellent garden, but we're right on the border of a state park (part of the joy of living there) and there are bears and deer. My parents have over the years weeded out loads and loads of deer candy and mostly what's left is roses and flowers and herbs. So I'll be maintaining her garden happily. It just won't have yummy stuff in it, only pretty stuff and herby stuff.

My GF has the same problem. Her house borders a forest-park, fulla deer, and cant grow a decent garden at all.

 

[RoryN]

Truth be told, I have far more respect for Recidiva if she stays friends with Ginny than I do for RoryN.

What if she were to befriend another overt, angry, blatant racist?

(I'm sure it'll never happen, though. )

 

[Recidiva]

Every pot has a lid, I say.

I meant to tell you that I discovered that a female poster at AH is really a male. I learned it by accident. Just dum luck that dropped into my lap one day. I wont reveal who he is, tho.

I usually find out stuff and then just hold onto it until folks let me in on it.

There was that time where the 45 year old doctor was 13 and where the 32 year old lawyer was 16. By the time they get around to telling me, someone they've confided in has already told me and then I say "yes, I know."

I don't treat people differently from what they present themselves to me to be, until they let me in on the secret. I'll call a drag queen "she" because she wants me to, not because she got it genetically.

I don't collect stuff for social gossip, I'm just an easy person to talk to and I tend to post a lot about sensitive subjects and I get lots of private messages from that.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm not saying more power to him, I'm saying I get it and there's nothing to be done to change it once that's understood.

I'm not impressed, in fact I think he has done a great deal of harm to sensitive people and he knows that as well. What he feels about it I don't know, other than that I think he thinks he's toughening them up or smartening them up or just wants to fuck with the vulnerable for free.

To hear tell he's paid his dues in that regard and I don't find that out of the realm of possibility, that he's done good if only to keep the competition down.

I dont care. I came to AH and LIT with a friendly attitude but I wont suffer abuse from folks looking for trouble. I have zero recollection of what you and I fought about or what was said, I dont hold grudges or collect grievances.

 

[Recidiva]

What if she were to befriend another overt, angry, blatant racist?

(I'm sure it'll never happen, though. )

Look, a dead dog! Beat it! Beat it!

JBJ and I would agree that we are not friends. Speaking civilly is not a friendship. It's a detente.

 

[RoryN]

JBJ and I would agree that we are not friends. Speaking civilly is not a friendship. It's a detente.

For you, it's a pattern.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ZUMI?

I'd push your buttons on your front porch, and not think twice about doing it. Its not my idea of a fun time but its a quick way to see what youre made of. To see if youre worth fooling with.

 

[blobfish]

See, I like the racists and the anti-racists. I'm like Gandhi.

 

[RoryN]

ZUMI?

I know you believe all black people look and think alike.

But it's another level of batshit crazy to think they're all the same person.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Whats wrong with racists? I've done lotsa good for blacks and not liked them the whole time I was helping them.

 

[Recidiva]

I dont care. I came to AH and LIT with a friendly attitude but I wont suffer abuse from folks looking for trouble. I have zero recollection of what you and I fought about or what was said, I dont hold grudges or collect grievances.

I think the only thing I ever tried was to get people deeply offended by you to put you on ignore and stop spraying emotional arterial blood all over the boards. It wasn't a political argument, it was a specific incident with real people grieving. I was less an adversary than someone attempting to broker a deal.

I failed pretty miserably. I was told that sensitivity has rights over free speech and I disagreed.

I was on the side of limiting the injuries to the sensitive without calling for your expulsion from the board or further moderation of the board. I was just trying to do the compromise thingy and neither you nor others agreed with me in the least and would prefer to brawl. So...okay.

So the sensitive shun me and I'm left to talk to you. I win, right? I ended up having to put many of the sensitive on ignore because I was then the bad guy.

I have had you on and off ignore in different travels to and from the board, but not this time. I think I'm just not really surprised by anything you would say and you'll give me answers as to your motivations.