Bath Salts

[Super-Surprise]

Bath Salts...WTF??

This will end badly!

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Bath Salts...WTF??

This will end badly!

has anyone asked SeanH if he smoked them?

what about SeanR? just curious

 

[Saint Peter]

Fuck your shit up!

 

[tactful]

Munchies, person-ified.

 

[Peregrinator]

Remarkable, isn't it, how no matter what else is going on in human history, some percentage of us desire and find a way to experience an altered level of consciousness? There seems to be something that's part of being human that also needs to use external or internal stimuli to change our perceptions.

 

[Saint Peter]

Denver TV had a story on the stuff. It showed a young person smoking the salts. He was completely catatonic. Completely fucked up on the stuff.

Scary shit.

 

[TorontoBoyWest]

Did I hear this correctly that there is only one component of Bath Salts that is anywhere hard to get? And even the you can order it online?



Not.Ending.Well.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

This sort of self- medication, is not any sort of remedy.

 

[Peregrinator]

Wiki says:

Pharmacology

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone has no record of FDA approved medical use.[7].

Reportedly, it has four times the potency of methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta),[8] although its pharmacology has only recently been studied in detail.[9] MDPV is the 3,4-methylenedioxy ring-substituted analog of the compound pyrovalerone, developed in the 1960s, which has been used for the treatment of chronic fatigue and as an anorectic, but caused problems of abuse and dependence. However, despite its structural similarity, the effects of MDPV bear little resemblance to other methylenedioxyphenylalkylamine derivatives such as 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine (MDMA), instead producing primarily stimulant effects with only mild entactogenic qualities.

Other drugs with a similar chemical structure include α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (α-PPP), 4'-methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MPPP), 3',4'-methylenedioxy-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MDPPP) and 1-phenyl-2-(1-pyrrolidinyl)-1-pentanone (α-PVP).

Effects:

MDPV acts as a stimulant and has been reported to produce effects similar to those of cocaine, methylphenidate, and amphetamines. The acute effects may include:[10]
Physiological/psychological effects
tachycardia (rapid heartbeat)
hypertension (high blood pressure)
vasoconstriction (narrowing of the blood vessels)
insomnia (inability to sleep)
nausea, stomach cramps, and digestive problems
bruxism (grinding teeth)
increased body temperature, chills, sweating
pupil dilation
headache
kidney pain
tinnitus
dizziness
overstimulation
breathing difficulty
agitation/hypertonia
severe paranoia
confusion
psychotic delusions
extreme anxiety/agitation, sometimes progressing to violent behavior
suicidal thoughts/actions
Psychiatric symptoms may persist. Physical symptoms may progress to rhabdomyolysis, renal failure, seizures, high anion gap metabolic acidosis, respiratory failure, or liver failure.
Desired psychological effects
euphoria
increased alertness and awareness
increased wakefulness and arousal
increased energy and motivation
mental stimulation/increased concentration
increased sociability
sexual stimulation/aphrodisiac effects
mild empathogenic effects
diminished perception of the requirement for food and sleep
Description of effects
The primary psychological effects have a duration of roughly 3 to 4 hours, with after effects such as tachycardia, hypertension, and mild stimulation lasting from 6 to 8 hours.[10] High doses have been observed to cause intense, prolonged panic attacks in stimulant-intolerant users,[10] and there are anecdotal reports of psychosis from sleep withdrawal and addiction at higher doses or more frequent dosing intervals.[10] MDPV has been distinguished by some for its powers as an aphrodisiac. It has also been repeatedly noted for inducing strong cravings to re-administer.[10][11] Users have reported a compulsive desire to continuously re-dose, even following onset of the unpleasant side effects induced by prolonged use and higher doses.
Extended binges on MDPV have also been reported to produce severe comedown syndrome similar to that of methamphetamine[citation needed], characterized by depression, lethargy, headache, anxiety, postural hypotension (lightheadedness and weakness of the muscles), and in some cases severely bloodshot eyes, which usually subside within 4 to 8 hours. MDPV may also cause temporary bruxism. Side effects are highly dose-dependent. No fatalities have so far been reported without the combination of other substances except for suicide.
Reported modalities of intake include oral consumption, insufflation, smoking, rectal and intravenous use. It is supposedly active at 3–5 mg, with typical doses ranging between 5–20 mg. MDPV loses potency when it is put into solution.[10]

 

[Peregrinator]

Did I hear this correctly that there is only one component of Bath Salts that is anywhere hard to get? And even the you can order it online?



Not.Ending.Well.

Products labeled as "bath salts" containing MDPV are sold as recreational drugs in gas stations and convenience stores, similar to the marketing for Spice and K2 as incense.[1][2]

.....

 

[Morcheeba]

Denver TV had a story on the stuff. It showed a young person smoking the salts. He was completely catatonic. Completely fucked up on the stuff.

Scary shit.

You mentioned Denver-related bath salt stuff in my recent Zombie thread but since I thought you were kidding around I didn't respond. Lo and behold, there are some frightening Utube videos out there.

Like this one, for examp...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_nZiuFC4o

That handsome young man on something that fucking potent? Almost makes me wanna shed a tear.

 

[ImSinister]

Effects:


Quote:
MDPV acts as a stimulant and has been reported to produce effects similar to those of cocaine, methylphenidate, and amphetamines. The acute effects may include:[10]
Physiological/psychological effects
tachycardia (rapid heartbeat)
hypertension (high blood pressure)
vasoconstriction (narrowing of the blood vessels)
insomnia (inability to sleep)
nausea, stomach cramps, and digestive problems
bruxism (grinding teeth)
increased body temperature, chills, sweating
pupil dilation
headache
kidney pain
tinnitus
dizziness
overstimulation
breathing difficulty
agitation/hypertonia
severe paranoia
confusion
psychotic delusions
extreme anxiety/agitation, sometimes progressing to violent behavior
suicidal thoughts/actions
Psychiatric symptoms may persist. Physical symptoms may progress to rhabdomyolysis, renal failure, seizures, high anion gap metabolic acidosis, respiratory failure, or liver failure.
Desired psychological effects
euphoria
increased alertness and awareness
increased wakefulness and arousal
increased energy and motivation
mental stimulation/increased concentration
increased sociability
sexual stimulation/aphrodisiac effects
mild empathogenic effects
diminished perception of the requirement for food and sleep
Description of effects
The primary psychological effects have a duration of roughly 3 to 4 hours, with after effects such as tachycardia, hypertension, and mild stimulation lasting from 6 to 8 hours.[10] High doses have been observed to cause intense, prolonged panic attacks in stimulant-intolerant users,[10] and there are anecdotal reports of psychosis from sleep withdrawal and addiction at higher doses or more frequent dosing intervals.[10] MDPV has been distinguished by some for its powers as an aphrodisiac. It has also been repeatedly noted for inducing strong cravings to re-administer.[10][11] Users have reported a compulsive desire to continuously re-dose, even following onset of the unpleasant side effects induced by prolonged use and higher doses.
Extended binges on MDPV have also been reported to produce severe comedown syndrome similar to that of methamphetamine[citation needed], characterized by depression, lethargy, headache, anxiety, postural hypotension (lightheadedness and weakness of the muscles), and in some cases severely bloodshot eyes, which usually subside within 4 to 8 hours. MDPV may also cause temporary bruxism. Side effects are highly dose-dependent. No fatalities have so far been reported without the combination of other substances except for suicide.
Reported modalities of intake include oral consumption, insufflation, smoking, rectal and intravenous use. It is supposedly active at 3–5 mg, with typical doses ranging between 5–20 mg. MDPV loses potency when it is put into solution.[10]
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And apparently it makes you hungry for human face flesh

 

[Morcheeba]

Not Safe For Anything

And apparently it makes you hungry for human face flesh

http://imgur.com/L9YrC

 

[ImSinister]

http://imgur.com/L9YrC

I am going to pass on watching that - what I imagine is bad enough.

 

[Morcheeba]

Yeah, you should pass.

I'm most surprised that there is a list of side effects for bath salts when I thought it wasn't for human consumption in the first place.

WHO ARE THESE ANIMALS going, okay, we need to jot down what may happen if a human consumes something not made for humans in the first place. So a Think Tank develops...

"Gloria, you start..."

"Well, grinding of the teeth. Kidney pains. Inability to relax."

"Anything about suicidal thoughts, actions?"

"Yes. In fact, mostly every symptom would cause a person to either kill themself or kill another."

"Anything else?"

"Well, it seems it's not like your average drug at all.

"And how so?"

"It makes you want to eat others."

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I've been posting about them for some time now...

http://www.downinthevalley.com/images/product/medium/164228.jpg

 

[shoulderblade]

Did I hear this correctly that there is only one component of Bath Salts that is anywhere hard to get? And even the you can order it online?

I heard a CBC radio piece on this and they mentioned twice that it could be purchased on line. Odd thing was that the report was from CBC Halifax since the drug had surfaced in NB and NS.

 

[tactful]

Run that bath, will you ?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

People are so unaware of the extreme effect the war on drugs has as illustrated above by Perg.

We have friends whose teen daughter was rushed to the emergency room because, as she explained, she was taking a bath and accidently swallowed some bath salt when she went under the water and they bought that line!

If my kid is going to experiment, not that I think she will, she has her dressage and self-esteem, I'd prefer it to be on nacho cheese Doritos™, weed and wine without the fear of jail!

 

[Nightierub]

This crap is making meth look like 2 dollar ditch weed!

 

[laceNlthrgrrl]

I've an embarassingly dim question: was this stuff actually made to BE bath salts, or was it named that for other, likely inexplicable reasons? I've always wondered about that.

I keep reading the news about this stuff, and it's scary to the max. Proof that just because one can fling a bunch of chemicals together doesn't mean that it ought to be done. I wonder what they were really trying to do when this came into being.

 

[Redatlit]

A year or so ago I had a customer ask if I sold a test for bath salts. I was all........ huh? bath salts?.......... seriously? Yeah, I had no idea.

 

[KRCummings]

Never heard of it until the zombie attack and still don't know quite what it is. Put me in the group that isn't sure if it's really bath salts improperly used or something they just call bath salts for some unknown reason. You can also put me in the group that is more concerned about the coming zombie apocalypse than some cheap gas station dope the kids are doing.

 

[zipman]

Never heard of it until the zombie attack and still don't know quite what it is. Put me in the group that isn't sure if it's really bath salts improperly used or something they just call bath salts for some unknown reason. You can also put me in the group that is more concerned about the coming zombie apocalypse than some cheap gas station dope the kids are doing.

It's something called bath salts and not the kind you buy in a store to put in your bath. They contain a mixture of amphetamines that produce a strong and rather fucked up mixture of paranoia, hallucinations, and tolerance to pain and are sold in gas stations in some states.

 

[Redatlit]

Never heard of it until the zombie attack and still don't know quite what it is. Put me in the group that isn't sure if it's really bath salts improperly used or something they just call bath salts for some unknown reason. You can also put me in the group that is more concerned about the coming zombie apocalypse than some cheap gas station dope the kids are doing.

A synthetic mixture of amphetamine and hallucinogen. Not good at all.