A Tale of A False Flag Attack...

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...by Paul Craig Roberts, Prisonplanet.com, April 7, 2012:

The stagecoach bounced along the uneven trail through Indian lands. A year ago there would have been danger from Indians. But Ulysses Grant had sent General Philip Henry Sheridan, who had brought the horrors of war to Confederate civilians, to annihilate the plains Indians.

In his winter campaign of 1868-69, Sheridan attacked the Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Comanche tribes in their winter quarters, killing women and children and taking the Indians’ supplies and livestock. In Congressional testimony, Sheridan advocated the slaughter of the vast herds of bison in order to deprive Indians of food.

Having turned professional hunters loose on Indian lands, Sheridan wrote: “Let them kill, skin and sell until the buffalo is exterminated.” For his proficiency in war crimes, Sheridan was made commanding general of the U.S. Army.
When the first thud of the arrows hit the stage, the passengers screamed, “Indians, we will be scalped.” Among the passengers was a grizzled, hardened man. He retrieved an arrow and noting the metal arrowhead realized that it was not an Indian arrow and that the stage was being attacked by outlaws posing as Indians.

False flag attacks are as old as history.

“Bowie” Johnston had fought Indians all his life. He had more respect for them than he had for most white men. Unlike the other passengers, he understood that Indians would be blamed when whites preyed upon whites.

He also understood that seized with fear, the stage driver would urge the horses onward. The rough trail would mean no accurate shooting from the coach and likely a broken axel or lost wheel. An overturned and wrecked stagecoach would be easy pickings for the outlaws.

Bowie opened the stage door and swung up on top of the coach. With his Colt at the driver’s head, he ordered the driver to stop the coach. He seized the Winchester from the guard. When the coach stopped, he commenced firing.
His two shots took two of the raiders out of their saddles. The rest, realizing they were facing an experienced fighter, rode off.

The stage driver and guard and the other passengers were both angry and relieved.

“We thought you were with the Indians,” they exclaimed, “but you drove them off!”

“They weren’t Indians,” Bowie replied. Those were outlaws after the payroll, knowing that they would be home clear with the robbery blamed on Indians.”
One of the self-important passengers ejaculated, “Why are you shielding those murdering savages. We know it was Indians. Look at all the arrows.”

“Mister,” replied Bowie, “I have been fighting Indians all my life. Look at this arrow. The feathers are not representative of any tribe. The arrowhead is metal. Indians have flint arrowheads. No Indian nation has a foundry or blacksmith. Come with me. Let’s go look at the two I killed.”

Reluctantly, the passengers accompanied Bowie, who wiped the war paint and grease from the dead men’s faces. A uniform gasp was emitted from the driver, guard, and passengers. All could see that a false flag attack had been perpetrated upon the stagecoach.

Bowie told his now attentive audience, ” this attack was intended to bring retribution upon demonized Indians. Innocent Indians would have been massacred while white men rode away with the money. Bowie removed the arrows from the stagecoach and put the metal tips into his pocket. We will take the bodies with us as evidence against further depredations against the Indians.

Bowie contemplated his life. He had been a man ever since a plains grizzly had struck down his horse and ripped him and his saddle off his horse’s back. Faced with a massive killing machine, the 185 pound man armed with a bowie knife felt small indeed. Bowie had been able to inflict enough wounds that the grizzly abandoned the attack.

Bowie’s steadfastness had saved his life, and now it had saved the lives of the stage passengers. Where did this steadfastness originate? Why hadn’t Bowie screamed, “we will be scalped!”

Experience. Bowie had experience. He knew.

http://www.infowars.com/false-flag-attack/

 

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[Liar]

You going Mike Yates on our asses now?

 

[bronzeage]

More from the Department of Because You'll Believe Anything.

 

[CandiCame]

More from the Department of Because You'll Believe Anything.

*liked*

 

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[rosco rathbone]

The convenience of judging history from outside the context of it's own time is overwhelming for some.

Moral relativism!

 

[CandiCame]

The convenience of judging history from outside the context of it's own time is overwhelming for some.

Case in point: Watch Ninja Turtles 2 and wonder what the hell made people think putting Vanilla Ice in that movie was a good idea. But apparently, he was huge at the time. I've always been a firm believer that you can't judge art out of the context of it's time. History is kinda the context of it's time. Like... that's all it is. But bullshit is bullshit no matter when it happened. Racists are racist. Doesn't really take a bullshit story to know that- there are plenty of real things that happened to prove that settlers couldn't tell a plainsman from a woodsman, so I flat-out don't think anything about this wreaks of historical accuracy. Dude got his shit jacked. Not worth telling. Happened all the time.

 

[bronzeage]

The convenience of judging history from outside the context of it's own time is overwhelming for some.

I think it's a great idea to dress up like Indians and armed only with bows and arrows attack a stage coach where it's pretty certain there are men armed with modern repeating firearms.

Brilliant plan and no reason to suspect it didn't happen exactly like the story in the OP. It's such a great plan, it's been used as the plot in many cowboy movies.

What could possibly be wrong?

 

[CandiCame]

I think it's a great idea to dress up like Indians and armed only with bows and arrows attack a stage coach where it's pretty certain there are men armed with modern repeating firearms.

Brilliant plan and no reason to suspect it didn't happen exactly like the story in the OP. It's such a great plan, it's been used as the plot in many cowboy movies.

What could possibly be wrong?

The OP was set to Clint Eastwood drumb beats.
You know, the kind that no tribe ever used, ever.

 

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[CandiCame]

Come to think of it, didn't our patriots dress up like Indians before boarding those ships in Boston Harbor to toss all of that tea overboard?

Yes... yes they did. But they were completely shitfaced at the time, so I could see how that would look like a good idea. Most of our history occurred while shitfaced. It was Handcock's idea.

 

[bronzeage]

Come to think of it, didn't our patriots dress up like Indians before boarding those ships in Boston Harbor to toss all of that tea overboard?

Yeah and it was the steel arrowheads that gave the whole thing away. If not for that, the British would have never known the difference.

Just for my curiosity, do you believe the stagecoach story?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Come to think of it, didn't our patriots dress up like Indians before boarding those ships in Boston Harbor to toss all of that tea overboard?

So you're saying "our patriots" were too chickenshit to be patriotic in their own skin and tried to shift the blame of a criminal act on another community of (American) people different from themselves?

Wow...that sort of thing would never happen in our modern day America, would it? Why, the Founders/Fathers would be flabbergasted at such dishonorable actions besmirching the pride of the America they wanted to create!

You're a proud American, Vette...as a patriot who shed blood, sweat and tears for the flag and our nation's freedom against our enemies, there should be steam coming out of your ears at the very thought of such a thing!

 

[CandiCame]

Yeah and it was the steel arrowheads that gave the whole thing away. If not for that, the British would have never known the difference.

Just for my curiosity, do you believe the stagecoach story?

Btw, folk generally didn't smelt in pre-contact times, because there was a fuckton of hematite (not flint), but steel was cheaper and easier after folk found out you COULD do that, and bought molds from white folk and started smelting them. Started using guns to *gasp*. The vast majority of folk attaching stagecoaches did so at gunpoint- and they weren't trying to rob, they were literally out for blood. The British were paying a fortune for mercs- that's where the whole "scalping headhunter" thing came from- the Brits demanded them as proof. So... again, I'm not saying that this story wasn't presented exactly like Roberts said, just that the folk in it are full of shit.

 

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[bronzeage]

I have no idea, like all such stories of the old west it's probably been embellished to some degree. Knowing the author, I'd say he had a much larger point to make than just a skirmish with counterfeit Indians.

You can't decide if the story is plausible enough to believe or not?

Did you know that if you say gullible very slowly, it sounds like you are saying oranges?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Why should I be upset about behaviors that happened over two hundred years ago? I try not to judge history according to moral standards that didn't exist at the time. If it happened to day, I'd probably be outraged.

Tell me Zoomie, how many hats did you steam the wrinkles out of when you read about black activists painting swastikas, KKK, on dorm room doors, and planting hangman's nooses to create an atmosphere of white racism on campus? Just askin'

Just sayin' Vette. Every time you and your crew brings up the "patriots" or the "Founders" or the "Fathers" as an example, you keep on painting them as this paradigm of templar perfection and justice that we in the here and now seem to dishonor somehow with trying to adapt 200-year-old thinking into modern society.

Just wonder if the bullshit that Native Americans had to deal with ever crosses your mind when you name drop stuff like this. I'm willing to bet it's as much on your mind as your conveniently distractive anecdote about black activists are on mine when I don't do likewise.

 

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[CandiCame]

I'm thinking I've spent more time studying the American Indian, visiting his reservations, respecting his plight, and contributing more than just my words to his well being than you have.

It doesn't really matter to me how you see history Zoomie, or what standards you apply to it. That's up to you. What matters to me is how I conduct my own life, which hasn't always been perfect. But when I went to war it wasn't under a false flag, nor did we wear anything except the uniform of our country. The enemy didn't think we were Comanches and we disparaged no one except them.

I realize you believe you live in an illegitimate country founded by oppressive racists that has no moral right to exist. My question is, when are you going to move out of it and stop lending your superior morality to it's existence?

Maybe as soon as we stop lumping all tribes together under one ideology? Do you have any idea how much that pisses us off? No, of course you don't, you went to the Rez and bought into all the touristy crap we put out for people like you. Wait- you didn't even go to the Rez- because white folk call it "Reservations". Ever been to a Boundary? Do you know what they are?

That's it- I'm playing the

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[Peregrinator]

Vette and his brothers in arms disparaged the Commanches in Viet Nam?

This is not the universe I was born into.

 

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[CandiCame]

I hunt with people living on the "Rez." I support an orphanage on the "Rez," you fucking clueless dunce.

I'm sure you do. Like how you introduced your one black friend from college to your one black friend from work.

You've never been to a Rez in your life. If you did, you would have used a tribal name, because you know how annoying and racist that lump is.