Gunmaker invents chilling double-barrel handgun

Yup. Maybe I should invest in one. It would be a funny thing to have kicking around the house.

I fired a Kimber a couple months ago and it didn't seem all that big a deal to me. It felt more powerful, but the recoil wasn't that bad. Maybe a benefit of weighing a few more than 200 lbs these days.

As long as you view it as a long term investment, why not?

It's all in the physics, weight and velocity. You can blow out a lighter bullet with the 'feel' of power and have achieved nothing at all. Change the recoil spring and you can turn the 1911 into a totally different shooting machine.

You can take an off the shelf 1911 and totally make it over. Once you have the frame it's like that hot rod you always wanted to have. Far too many people pay far too much for a pistol made by some one else they could have put together for themselves at a fraction of the cost. And the funny thing is that if you go to sell it the ROI on the home brew is as good, if not better, than the name brand.

Don't get me wrong, Kimber turns out a quality product. But I can achieve the same results a lot cheaper (for myself, you're going to pay) albeit the end result will not be as attractive to look at. Kinda like the difference between a 'sleeper' cue stick and one that's been inlaid and made to look really 'bad'. In the end it's all in the hands of the shooter.

Ishmael
 
As long as you view it as a long term investment, why not?

It's all in the physics, weight and velocity. You can blow out a lighter bullet with the 'feel' of power and have achieved nothing at all. Change the recoil spring and you can turn the 1911 into a totally different shooting machine.

You can take an off the shelf 1911 and totally make it over. Once you have the frame it's like that hot rod you always wanted to have. Far too many people pay far too much for a pistol made by some one else they could have put together for themselves at a fraction of the cost. And the funny thing is that if you go to sell it the ROI on the home brew is as good, if not better, than the name brand.

Don't get me wrong, Kimber turns out a quality product. But I can achieve the same results a lot cheaper (for myself, you're going to pay) albeit the end result will not be as attractive to look at. Kinda like the difference between a 'sleeper' cue stick and one that's been inlaid and made to look really 'bad'. In the end it's all in the hands of the shooter.

Ishmael

Kimber is starting to put out sloppy guns. Mine has more Wilson Combat parts in it now than Kimber. You are right, you can start with a cheaper gun and add all the "good" parts you want to it, especially if you stick to 1911 models.
 
As long as you view it as a long term investment, why not?

It's all in the physics, weight and velocity. You can blow out a lighter bullet with the 'feel' of power and have achieved nothing at all. Change the recoil spring and you can turn the 1911 into a totally different shooting machine.

You can take an off the shelf 1911 and totally make it over. Once you have the frame it's like that hot rod you always wanted to have. Far too many people pay far too much for a pistol made by some one else they could have put together for themselves at a fraction of the cost. And the funny thing is that if you go to sell it the ROI on the home brew is as good, if not better, than the name brand.

Don't get me wrong, Kimber turns out a quality product. But I can achieve the same results a lot cheaper (for myself, you're going to pay) albeit the end result will not be as attractive to look at. Kinda like the difference between a 'sleeper' cue stick and one that's been inlaid and made to look really 'bad'. In the end it's all in the hands of the shooter.

Ishmael

If I ever get the 1911 bug, I'll be asking you for a list of mods.
 
Kimber is starting to put out sloppy guns. Mine has more Wilson Combat parts in it now than Kimber. You are right, you can start with a cheaper gun and add all the "good" parts you want to it, especially if you stick to 1911 models.

Of course I am. :)

The market is now going for appearance over substance. Most people buying firearms today don't bother to fully 'test' them for function. Kimber is now trying to go commercial. I think they're being foolish, but time will tell.

"Hey, look what I got!"

"Dude, that's BAD."

That's it, show it to your buddies, take it to the range once a year, if ever.

I once put a .45 ACP in Dolf's hands (Yeah, I know. Dumb idea.) and I was appalled at how she handled the weapon. The funny thing is that she handled it better than some of the 'Bro's' on the block. She at least showed a little respect.

Ishmael
 
Of course I am. :)

The market is now going for appearance over substance. Most people buying firearms today don't bother to fully 'test' them for function. Kimber is now trying to go commercial. I think they're being foolish, but time will tell.

"Hey, look what I got!"

"Dude, that's BAD."

That's it, show it to your buddies, take it to the range once a year, if ever.

I once put a .45 ACP in Dolf's hands (Yeah, I know. Dumb idea.) and I was appalled at how she handled the weapon. The funny thing is that she handled it better than some of the 'Bro's' on the block. She at least showed a little respect.

Ishmael

You are a brave man. :D
 
Most people buying firearms today don't bother to fully 'test' them for function.

Ishmael

This is something I was wondering about. Please to describe this test. How do you examine a gun you're thinking of buying?
 
This is something I was wondering about. Please to describe this test. How do you examine a gun you're thinking of buying?

Shoot the damn thing, or one like it.

Every action on a well made firearm should be like glass sliding on glass. That would be perfection in the mechanics. Do everything in slow-mo and FEEL.

That's just the start. Any design that's been in production for over 20 years is another indicator. One of the smoothest designs ever turned out was the Krag-Jorgensen, it was a piece of shit then and still is. But damn, it's a smooth piece of shit.

Ishmael
 
Both have to fire at the same time, the slide is are one piece not two separate ones. Just a gimmick gun that no one has made before.



Nancy loves my Bennelli M4. :D

Ahhh, I see. I didn't think of that or look into that much. Thanks Koala.
 
How convenient! Someone has finally invented a weapon that combines the killing power of a double-barreled shotgun with the portability of a handgun. After a decade of development, Arsenal Firearms is turning out a double-barreled .45 caliber, semi-automatic handgun that allows you to shoot two bullets at the same time, Gizmodo reports.

http://blstb.msn.com/i/75/1BE1785D1934C9F10DD2EB43D9DC6.jpg

http://now.msn.com/now/0312-double-barreled-handgun.aspx

Better not let any of the left wingnuts around here get their hands on one. Well I bet most can't afford one or have a criminal background. Fucking left retards here.
 
You can take an off the shelf 1911 and totally make it over. Once you have the frame it's like that hot rod you always wanted to have. Far too many people pay far too much for a pistol made by some one else they could have put together for themselves at a fraction of the cost. And the funny thing is that if you go to sell it the ROI on the home brew is as good, if not better, than the name brand.

Don't get me wrong, Kimber turns out a quality product. But I can achieve the same results a lot cheaper (for myself, you're going to pay) albeit the end result will not be as attractive to look at. Kinda like the difference between a 'sleeper' cue stick and one that's been inlaid and made to look really 'bad'. In the end it's all in the hands of the shooter.

Ishmael

Not only cheaper to diy it but a lot less rattling going on inside when you are actually aware and give a shit about precision fits. And IMO less rattle = less issues.
 
Shoot the damn thing, or one like it.

Every action on a well made firearm should be like glass sliding on glass. That would be perfection in the mechanics. Do everything in slow-mo and FEEL.

That's just the start. Any design that's been in production for over 20 years is another indicator. One of the smoothest designs ever turned out was the Krag-Jorgensen, it was a piece of shit then and still is. But damn, it's a smooth piece of shit.

Ishmael

it's cool how i can radically disagree with someone's politics but still find common ground talking about guns. :)

krags are cool as hell, and there is nothing in life quite so satisfying as a smooth action. ever fired a s&w highway patrolman with a factory trigger job? single action is smooth, double action is unbelievably crisp.
 
it's cool how i can radically disagree with someone's politics but still find common ground talking about guns. :)

krags are cool as hell, and there is nothing in life quite so satisfying as a smooth action. ever fired a s&w highway patrolman with a factory trigger job? single action is smooth, double action is unbelievably crisp.

I re-work S&W's, especially those made back when Bangor-Punta owned the works They don't hold a candle to a Colt, just cheaper (and it shows). Buy the off the shelf, remove the side plate and stone the slide. Install a target hammer and trigger and you have a totally different Smith. Good guns but you have to go through a few, or find a good smith to make it a great gun.

The K-22 and K-38 masterpieces are still top of the line if you can find them.

Ishmael
 
I re-work S&W's, especially those made back when Bangor-Punta owned the works They don't hold a candle to a Colt, just cheaper (and it shows). Buy the off the shelf, remove the side plate and stone the slide. Install a target hammer and trigger and you have a totally different Smith. Good guns but you have to go through a few, or find a good smith to make it a great gun.

The K-22 and K-38 masterpieces are still top of the line if you can find them.

Ishmael

yeah, i've heard this before. i have only fired one colt (one of the late-production woodsmans) and i was impressed, but i haven't fondled any of their revolvers.
 
yeah, i've heard this before. i have only fired one colt (one of the late-production woodsmans) and i was impressed, but i haven't fondled any of their revolvers.

Night and day. Smith's are the Chevy's and Colts are/were the Cadillac's. Visit your local dealers until you find one with a used Python in the case. Ask to see it, feel it, squeeze it, etc. (My apologies to the Who.) Slo-mo.

Ishmael
 
I'm up to inventory on all of my calibers. I do not reload shotgun though but have several boxes of varying types. I have a slew of 7MM Mag rounds that need to be fired or disassembled one or the other.

I have enough shotgun shells for a family of 12. Still don't know how I got so many.:D
 
How convenient! Someone has finally invented a weapon that combines the killing power of a double-barreled shotgun with the portability of a handgun. After a decade of development, Arsenal Firearms is turning out a double-barreled .45 caliber, semi-automatic handgun that allows you to shoot two bullets at the same time, Gizmodo reports.

http://blstb.msn.com/i/75/1BE1785D1934C9F10DD2EB43D9DC6.jpg

http://now.msn.com/now/0312-double-barreled-handgun.aspx

That should give twice the recoil, and enough people have trouble handling the recoil on a .45. Hopefully they rifled the barrels with opposite twists to minimize torque. That might help some folks.

It would be more interesting if it fired two different rounds, says .45 acp and .410 shotgun. Accomplish something your really couldn't with just one barrel. Or fired the barrels alternatively, giving more shots without reloading or having a magazine that hangs down to your knees.

While I wouldn't mind firing one at a range once, just to see how it feels, I can't imagine buying one.

Basically an idea whose time is dumb.
 
I'm not a gun expert but I would think the grip would be far to big for comfort for most shooters.
 
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