I had my child out of wedlock, I chose not to marry her father

[77817]

Do you not see the flaw in that?

So women should have the right to opt out of parenthood (abortion/adoption) but men should not?

 

[77817]

But men who dont want to be fathers should wear a condom or get a vasectomy

Perhaps women who don't want to be mothers should get a tubal ligation or keep their legs shut.

 

[TexasWife25]

So women should have the right to opt out of parenthood (abortion/adoption) but men should not?

Both parents have to consent to adoption. A woman doesnt have the right to dump her child with its father and say "I dont want to be a mom, but I also dont want to give you any money to help shoulder the burden"

 

[TexasWife25]

Perhaps women who don't want to be mothers should get a tubal ligation or keep their legs shut.

I agree

 

[Drixxx]

Do you not see the flaw in that? Once a child is born, the interest of the child, trumps that of both parents, it always has.

If a state said, "Men, you dont have to pay child support, the rest of the tax payers will do it for you". Do you think a large majority of men would pay anyway?Both people made the mistake of getting pregnant. Once the child is born, both people are required to be adults and take care of their responsibility.

Sweet Jesus. This is what you really think of men?

 

[blunt_trauma]

condoms break.

 

[Drixxx]

Both parents have to consent to adoption. A woman doesnt have the right to dump her child with its father and say "I dont want to be a mom, but I also dont want to give you any money to help shoulder the burden"

Say what?

The Safely Surrendered Baby Law

Are you pregnant and have decided not to keep your baby after delivery? Did you know that, as the parent, you can drop off your baby at Safe Surrender Sites?

The Safely Surrendered Baby Law allows parents to drop off their baby to any County fire station or hospital emergency room without fear of prosecution.

No Questions Asked, Guaranteed Confidentiality, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.

http://fire.lacounty.gov/programsevents/SpecialProgramsSafeSurrender.asp

 

[TexasWife25]

Sweet Jesus. This is what you really think of men?

In 2007, 27.3% of custodial parents sought the government’s assistance collecting child support.

Among the 7.8 million custodial single parents who were awarded child support in 2007, only 46.8% received all of the child support money that was due.

29.5% of custodial parents received some of the money that was due.

23.7% received none of the child support money due.

57.6% of custodial parents received some form of non-cash child support in 2007.

http://singleparents.about.com/gi/o...tp://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-237.pdf

 

[TexasWife25]

Say what?

Where does it say only a woman can drop of a child?

 

[Drixxx]

In 2007, 27.3% of custodial parents sought the government’s assistance collecting child support.

Among the 7.8 million custodial single parents who were awarded child support in 2007, only 46.8% received all of the child support money that was due.

29.5% of custodial parents received some of the money that was due.

23.7% received none of the child support money due.

57.6% of custodial parents received some form of non-cash child support in 2007.

http://singleparents.about.com/gi/o...tp://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-237.pdf

You know those statistics might mean something if it included all men, you know, the kind who marry the the girl they knocked up or guys who pay without court orders, or guys who have no money but participate in their child's life by providing a housing, or child care duties, or a myriad of other things to enhance the quality of their child's life.

 

[Drixxx]

Where does it say only a woman can drop of a child?

And this affects the price of tea in China in what way?

 

[TexasWife25]

You know those statistics might mean something if it included all men, you know, the kind who marry the the girl they knocked up or guys who pay without court orders, or guys who have no money but participate in their child's life by providing a housing, or child care duties, or a myriad of other things to enhance the quality of their child's life.

You asked what I thought of men, I thought that study shows, 30% of single parents sought assistance from the state in collecting support.

 

[blunt_trauma]

You asked what I thought of men, I thought that study shows, 30% of single parents sought assistance from the state in collecting support.

what % of the 30% are women?

 

[TexasWife25]

what % of the 30% are women?

...83%

 

[Drixxx]

You cant opt out of parenthood. Once a child is born, you're a parent. Do I think men who dont want to be fathers should be forced to be there? No. But men who dont want to be fathers should wear a condom or get a vasectomy, you dont get the right to make a mistake, and not take the fallout too.

I like the classic style this arguement is made when applied to abortion,"If you didn't want to get pregnant you should have kept your legs shut whore!"

 

[TexasWife25]

I like the classic style this arguement is made when applied to abortion,"If you didn't want to get pregnant you should have kept your legs shut whore!"

Apples meet oranges

 

[Drixxx]

You asked what I thought of men, I thought that study shows, 30% of single parents sought assistance from the state in collecting support.

And when did 30% become a majority, especially when it doesn't include all men who impregnate women?

 

[blunt_trauma]

...83%

and where the man is the single parent, what % of them have difficulties getting child support from the mother?

 

[KRCummings]

Well this thread certainly took a turn for the stupid.

 

[Drixxx]

Apples meet oranges

No it's apples and apples. Reproductive rights for both women and men.

 

[TexasWife25]

and where the man is the single parent, what % of them have difficulties getting child support from the mother?

Well .. if 83% are women then, 17% are men.

 

[Drixxx]

Well this thread certainly took a turn for the stupid.

Take your pills.

 

[Drixxx]

Well .. if 83% are women then, 17% are men.

And it still doesn't include all men who impregnante women.

 

[TexasWife25]

Well this thread certainly took a turn for the stupid.

I am, apparently the only person who thinks men shouldn't have the option to opt out of parenting.

I didnt realize I was a minority in this

 

[Drixxx]

I am, apparently the only person who thinks men shouldn't have the option to opt out of parenting.

I didnt realize I was a minority in this

Women have the option to opt of parenting. Why shouldn't men?