"Because it's there."

"Because it's there."

I still say that's a bullshit reason to do it...or anything really. Do it because you want to. Don't take some dumb-ass, pseudo-philisophical copout.
 
"Because it's there."

I still say that's a bullshit reason to do it...or anything really. Do it because you want to. Don't take some dumb-ass, pseudo-philisophical copout.

The famous quote is generally understood to have been uttered by Mallory in a fit of exasperation after a journalist asked him "Why do you want to climb it?" for the umpteenth time. I suspect he would agree with your analysis.
 
It's nice to show young folk. It shows you don't HAVE TO HAVE the mega-buck equipment.

So true. I keep telling people that new climbing shoes are the difference between 5.10c and 5.10d, not 5.4 and 5.11.

That said, Hillary and Tenzing were both extremely tough, determined climbers AND very lucky ones. Most people don't get to dress like that high on Everest. The weather must have been unbelievably perfect for them.
 
So true. I keep telling people that new climbing shoes are the difference between 5.10c and 5.10d, not 5.4 and 5.11.

That said, Hillary and Tenzing were both extremely tough, determined climbers AND very lucky ones. Most people don't get to dress like that high on Everest. The weather must have been unbelievably perfect for them.

Perg, Have you seen the film 180 south?
I want you to see it! I think you'd love it
 
Amen, Thor!

Do it for the love and passion of it!!

I live with the mountains within walking distance. You don't really need a lot of gear to stand on top of most of them.

So true. I keep telling people that new climbing shoes are the difference between 5.10c and 5.10d, not 5.4 and 5.11.

That said, Hillary and Tenzing were both extremely tough, determined climbers AND very lucky ones. Most people don't get to dress like that high on Everest. The weather must have been unbelievably perfect for them.

Tough.......that's a relative term these days.
 
Perg, Have you seen the film 180 south?
I want you to see it! I think you'd love it
I haven't...tell me about it?
I live with the mountains within walking distance. You don't really need a lot of gear to stand on top of most of them.



Tough.......that's a relative term these days.

Indeed. There are still some tough bastards out there, but now, with the technical gear, they're doing stuff Hillary might have though impossible. One day ascents of Everest, El Cap, etc. Evolution...
 
For Thor and Perg

http://www.180south.com/trailer.html

"In this feature-length film, shot almost entirely on route to and in Patagonia, Malloy follows mountain climber Jeff Johnson as he attempts to live out an adventure modeled after his heroes, Yvon Chouinard and Doug Tompkins, who traveled to Patagonia in 1968 and fell in love with the rugged country there"
 
Indeed. There are still some tough bastards out there, but now, with the technical gear, they're doing stuff Hillary might have though impossible. One day ascents of Everest, El Cap, etc. Evolution...

Just the availability of up to date weather information allows people to proceed without having to push the edge. Of course, this can bite 'em in the butt.
 
For Thor and Perg

http://www.180south.com/trailer.html

"In this feature-length film, shot almost entirely on route to and in Patagonia, Malloy follows mountain climber Jeff Johnson as he attempts to live out an adventure modeled after his heroes, Yvon Chouinard and Doug Tompkins, who traveled to Patagonia in 1968 and fell in love with the rugged country there"
That looks like great fun. Thanks, Mona.
Just the availability of up to date weather information allows people to proceed without having to push the edge. Of course, this can bite 'em in the butt.

True. I and a friend pulled the plug on a Presidential Traverse once because I called the Observatory from the parking lot and they said, "Don't come here." A different pair went up without checking and one of 'em got frostbite...
 
True. I and a friend pulled the plug on a Presidential Traverse once because I called the Observatory from the parking lot and they said, "Don't come here." A different pair went up without checking and one of 'em got frostbite...

Otherwise, you should have been carrying the gear to hunker in and stay put while the weather moves over....
 
Otherwise, you should have been carrying the gear to hunker in and stay put while the weather moves over....

We were, but we saw no point in doing that if we knew it was going to suck the whole time. Hauling all that shit up to above treeline just to decide that our window had closed was pointless.
 
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