there's just something weird about eating ham to celebrate the birth of a jew..
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It is a strange tradition.
I wonder what Catholics did before Vatican II when Christmas fell on a Friday.
I wonder what Catholics did before Vatican II when Christmas fell on a Friday.
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don't know, but i bet it involved getting hammered.
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Christmas seems like a weird time to get drunk to me. All those people around, shit needing put together, probably got up really early. Adding alcohol is a recipe for disaster.
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Well that explains Sean.
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waxing is so much better than shaving.
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not for beards.
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I'm not here to judge.
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Waxing or shaving are not good for beards. Shampoo in a blue bottle is good for beards. Jesus probably had a beard.
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and that's why he was awesome.
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He was cool cause he was rebellious, and probably had a beard.
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Had the ancient Hebrews had access to sugar curing and spiral slicing, I'm not certain the rules would have been different.
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Not really...
The Jews didn't accept Jesus, so they're adhering to the laws of the Old Testament. Jesus' birth and subsequent death changed all of that, and he made things that were "uncleam" clean. This was specifically addressed in Paul's dream on the roof.
The Jews didn't accept Jesus, so they're adhering to the laws of the Old Testament. Jesus' birth and subsequent death changed all of that, and he made things that were "uncleam" clean. This was specifically addressed in Paul's dream on the roof.
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Yeah, Jesus was a Jew. They didn't accept Him as Savior which doesn't really have anything to do with Him being Jewish. He followed all Jewish traditions and laws and said quite plainly that He was not there to change them. The Last Supper was a Seder.
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seriously and if his brother had won out over paul christianity likely would've had a distinctly more traditionally jewish feel.
Jesus announced to all that He fulfilled the Law...
...and all who believe in Him also fulfill the Law because He promises His children that He resides Spiritually within them.
Thus, the end of the dispensation of the Law (the Old Testament)...
....and the beginning of the dispensation of Grace (the New Testament...Christ).
That is why it is written that all who confess Jesus as Lord...
...are above the Law.
The Pharisees did not believe the Nazarene was their Messiah Who was always promised in the OT...
...not believing the Truth, they were still stuck under the Law.
That's why Jesus continually chided, mocked, belittled, and schooled them when they objected to Him "working" on the Sabbath, His "drinking", what and when he "ate", etc, etc, etc.
Christ set everyone straight on the issue:
After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, “Hear and understand. It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.”
Then the disciples came and said to Him, Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?” But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.” Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated? But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.”
- Matthew 15:10-20 NASB
The Jews (collectively) and their "ham" reject the Nazarene as the Christ and, thus, His Grace...
...they're still under the Law, still waiting (akin to the Iranian Shi'ite Twelvers, still awaiting their 12th imam).
But...
...Christ rejects no one.
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...and all who believe in Him also fulfill the Law because He promises His children that He resides Spiritually within them.
Thus, the end of the dispensation of the Law (the Old Testament)...
....and the beginning of the dispensation of Grace (the New Testament...Christ).
That is why it is written that all who confess Jesus as Lord...
...are above the Law.
The Pharisees did not believe the Nazarene was their Messiah Who was always promised in the OT...
...not believing the Truth, they were still stuck under the Law.
That's why Jesus continually chided, mocked, belittled, and schooled them when they objected to Him "working" on the Sabbath, His "drinking", what and when he "ate", etc, etc, etc.
Christ set everyone straight on the issue:
After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, “Hear and understand. It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.”
Then the disciples came and said to Him, Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?” But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.” Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated? But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.”
- Matthew 15:10-20 NASB
The Jews (collectively) and their "ham" reject the Nazarene as the Christ and, thus, His Grace...
...they're still under the Law, still waiting (akin to the Iranian Shi'ite Twelvers, still awaiting their 12th imam).
But...
...Christ rejects no one.
.
.
..
.
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Ya'll are all wrong... Jesus was not a jew...he was totally Nordic, brown Jesus is unacceptable. See in this historically accurate portrait he has blond hair, blue eyes and fair skin.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2w6aseu.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2w6aseu.jpg
KRCummings
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Would be funnier if so many did not cling to that notion.
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Really? that's exactly what I find so funny about it lol
