Category vs Category

[redzinger]

I've been reading Literotica for years but it's only in the last two when I've been regularly leaving feedback and voting.

In the last month, I've read some highly rated Non-Human stories which...err, weren't very good. Full of mispellings, grammatical errors, etc. In fact, I've no idea how they got the H at all. It has left me scratching my head. (It seems you only have to mention a werewolf or vampire to get an automatic 5.) This isn't the well-established authors, these are mostly new posters.
The comments all say 'awesome!', 'brilliant!' etc. Yes, I enjoy some of these stories but why the overpraising?

There's also been a couple of Romance stories I found were uncomfortably over-rated.

Whereas I've read some great stuff in other categories which has been much better written and has somehow missed the same amount of voting. A great BDSM, a good EC.

I know NH stories are currently very popular, but what makes people over-score? Just the desire to encourage more writing? Or do people get their friends to 'help' them out?

And, how do you score stories yourself?
Which categories have the most 'hidden gems'? And which are you more likely to close before the end?


I want to only give a 5 to the best stories, but when I found out what the tip-over was, I've had to adapt this to, 'Do I think this story deserves a 'H'?' when I vote.

(I'm actually tempted to write a formulaic NH myself to see how it does, out of curiosity.)

 

[lovecraft68]

I've been reading Literotica for years but it's only in the last two when I've been regularly leaving feedback and voting.

In the last month, I've read some highly rated Non-Human stories which...err, weren't very good. Full of mispellings, grammatical errors, etc. In fact, I've no idea how they got the H at all. It has left me scratching my head. (It seems you only have to mention a werewolf or vampire to get an automatic 5.) This isn't the well-established authors, these are mostly new posters.
The comments all say 'awesome!', 'brilliant!' etc. Yes, I enjoy some of these stories but why the overpraising?

There's also been a couple of Romance stories I found were uncomfortably over-rated.

Whereas I've read some great stuff in other categories which has been much better written and has somehow missed the same amount of voting. A great BDSM, a good EC.

I know NH stories are currently very popular, but what makes people over-score? Just the desire to encourage more writing? Or do people get their friends to 'help' them out?

And, how do you score stories yourself?
Which categories have the most 'hidden gems'? And which are you more likely to close before the end?


I want to only give a 5 to the best stories, but when I found out what the tip-over was, I've had to adapt this to, 'Do I think this story deserves a 'H'?' when I vote.

(I'm actually tempted to write a formulaic NH myself to see how it does, out of curiosity.)

I think the audiences vary on what they expect. It does not seem hard to please the non human audience. I also notice that the Non human crowd does actually vote which is not a given in many categories sad to say. Incest is also an easier to please category.

I think BDSM scores lower because the people there tend to practice what they read. There are less "posers" and more experience amongst the readership and hence higher standards.

There is also trolling. Non human does not seem to get a lot of it, but incest and others do, never mind what happens to the Loving wives stories.

I try to look at each category for what it is when I vote. Hot sex will get me to vote high in incest, but a great storyline and some insight into the character will get me to vote high in BDSM.

As for NH, you could write an A leads to B story and it will do well same for incest, again BDSM differs they expect more. It is a hot category right now, especially the Vampire/Werewolf stories. It is very trendy, and the site also does everything it can to push it along because it is.

 

[sr71plt]

It appears that most readers come to Lit. for the storyline and sex scene (not necessarily in that order) rather than the elements that some readers and many of the authors want. That's reality. I doubt it will change.

 

[estragon]

"It appears that most readers come to Lit. for the storyline and sex scene (not necessarily in that order) rather than the elements that some readers and many of the authors want. That's reality. I doubt it will change."--sr71plt

Though you and I have disagreed about a lot of things, we agree about this. Readers come to Lit for what they individually want, not for what other readers want, and still less for what the authors want.

This theme has been beaten to death and back again, but each reader owes the authors nothing, and their fellow readers the same nothing. The categories are whatever they are, and the chances of any change seem remote at best.

Free speech, like freedom generally, is not free. There is a price.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Readers come to Lit for what they individually want, not for what other readers want, and still less for what the authors want.

Totally agreed. Sr needs to get Congress to pass a law to stop people reading what they like and follow the author's instruction. He seems surprized readers come to a sex site to read sex stories. He should get out more.

 

[sr71plt]

Huh? Do I really need to point out that Jesse just echoed what I and others had posted?

 

[scouries]

dear mr redzinger,

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how wrong is this?

We invite you to join us in the battle for LITEROTICA. We need every human possible given this tidal wave of non-human excrement that is threatening to ruin this world… call, write, email, or pm the queen today!

Stamp out these NON-HUMAN stories

we beg of you...

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[PayDay]

Stop saying this or I will keep being sarcastic, I swear.

There is also trolling. Non human does not seem to get a lot of it, but incest and others do, never mind what happens to the Loving wives stories.

Woah. Woah. No more of this "all the haters are in Loving Wives" bullshit. I've even heard some of you post "no matter how good it is they'll bomb it" and such.

1 story in Loving Wives, 150+ votes, 3.95 rating(for now), 2 of 11 comments were haters.

You all lied, I didn't even get good trolls. They were lame trolls. In fact I think it was the same anonymous person twice.

I want my money back. Liars.

Also, there are good Non-Human stories, they exist, but I personally find most of them tasteless, and the good ones are rare to me. It's not particularly the category I like, but I think it would be ignorant to petition it out.

What's next? Foreign Language?

Why not Erotic Couplings? There's definately some real shit in that one.

Hell, down with Group Sex while we are at it.

To the OP, I like to use the Lit story search on the main page for finding gems, but as far as the rest of what you are asking, sr71plt and estragon are right, use the site as you see fit, everyone else does.

estragon is also right about threads like this, use the BB Search tool to find older posts and bump them, instead of posting a new one. At the time I am posting this, there is another just like it, on the forum main page.

 

[Feotakahari]

I think appealing to an unusual fetish boosts your votes, since there are fewer stories to choose from, and consequently fewer good stories to compete with the so-so stories that wind up getting fives. On the other hand, readers who've actually practiced a fetish are more likely to vote down a bad story about the fetish (hence the observation that the BDSM crowd is pretty strict, despite BDSM being fringe.) From this, it follows that the easiest way to get up-voted is to write about an unusual fetish that nobody can practice in real life.