Stephen King nominated for Bad Sex awards

Surprised King sucks so bad at sex these days. If memory serves me his writing career started with some stories he submitted to cavalier magazine while he was working on Carrie.

Whenever I think of King and sex I always think back to "It" a book where King throws in a very subtle under age gangbang that no one ever seemed to notice (they did of course leave it out of the movie version)
 
I cannot imagine taking King seriously as a writer of literatchur, man. Just-- not so much.
 
Oh my God!

Jean Auel... I read the books, and I loved the first three, but they got so repetative! The sex scenes were all the exact same thing (i.e., Jondalar eats Ayla out, she might give his 'organ' a kiss or two, they screw. I wouldn't mind it, except the books extend over fifteen years, and she's with Jondalar for five of them. And it's like Auel wants to describe it in detail EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. It's not even interesting! And she cant use any modern terminology (the stories are about early homo sapiens, several thousand years BC) So it ends up sounding ridiculous. Using 'organ' and 'member' to describe the men and 'warm folds' to describe the women.

I HIGHLY recommend the Earth's Children series because they are fascinating and the woman did decades of research so the way she describes how these people lived and worshipped is extraordinarily accurate and fascinating. The first book is the best, as it is about a young homo sapiens girl being raised by Neanderthals. The book presents the theory that even though Neanderthals weren't capable of a complex vocal range, that they were still very intelligent and very human.

Also, little to no crappy repetitive sex in the first two books, which makes them highly desirable.
 
Surprised King sucks so bad at sex these days. If memory serves me his writing career started with some stories he submitted to cavalier magazine while he was working on Carrie.

It did, but the magazines took normal horror stories back then. They were reprinted in Night Shift and Skeleton Crew. Nothing really racy there if I remember correctly.
 
There was underage sex in CARRIE. King slips it in plenty of times, and always gets a pass.
 
There was underage sex in CARRIE. King slips it in plenty of times, and always gets a pass.

Carrie was underage as in at least teenagers. If my memory is on, the scene in It I think the kids were like 10-12.

I can;t recall any long drawn out sex scenes from King they were usually short and not extremely descriptive.

Then again I have abandoned King when it became apparent that he eemed to think he no longer needed editing and the publisher will shove out anything he sneezes on.

I read Insomnia (which was the cure for said disease) and then Desperation, after that I said see you later.
Carrie, Salem's Lot and his first few were good but for me Pet Sematary was the best.

As some useless trivia his son is now one of the hottest comic book writers around.

Just before I closed the store a series named Locke and Key came out, written by Joe Hill, I snagged a few copies of #1 for myself because it had a LOvecraft theme. The series took off and I got around $50 each but still held back a couple.

when it was announced who Joe Hill really was I got $150 for them. People are so stupid.
 
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I agree.

People bite whatever bait King throws in the water but he hasnt been 'good' in 25 years. But none of them are, every best seller runs outta gas after 5-6 great reads.

In CARRIE Sue got some schlong in the convertible. In IT one of the older teens got his plumbing drained by Henry. Or vice versa.

SALEMS LOT is a good read. CHRISTINE is a good read. MISERY is good. IT needs a serious re-write and prunned of about 300 pages. King is not an 'epic' author.

I keep my stories short and tight and different. Just hatched 3 stories; one is a play on OWS, one is a play on BIG FOOT and Halloween, and the 3rd is a play on government corruption and abuse.

Gahan Wilson, the bizarro Play Boy catoonist, wrote one marvelous short story about Halloween, but his other stories suck.
 
Oh my God!

Jean Auel... I read the books, and I loved the first three, but they got so repetative! The sex scenes were all the exact same thing (i.e., Jondalar eats Ayla out, she might give his 'organ' a kiss or two, they screw. I wouldn't mind it, except the books extend over fifteen years, and she's with Jondalar for five of them. And it's like Auel wants to describe it in detail EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. It's not even interesting! And she cant use any modern terminology (the stories are about early homo sapiens, several thousand years BC) So it ends up sounding ridiculous. Using 'organ' and 'member' to describe the men and 'warm folds' to describe the women.

I HIGHLY recommend the Earth's Children series because they are fascinating and the woman did decades of research so the way she describes how these people lived and worshipped is extraordinarily accurate and fascinating. The first book is the best, as it is about a young homo sapiens girl being raised by Neanderthals. The book presents the theory that even though Neanderthals weren't capable of a complex vocal range, that they were still very intelligent and very human.

Also, little to no crappy repetitive sex in the first two books, which makes them highly desirable.

I read auel's first 3, I think. May have read the 4th, don't remember. If you took out the sections where she repeated why Ayla spoke with her hands, etc, the books would be half their length. I remember skipping over huge sections of exposition to get to the plot. She took so long to come out with the next book that I lost interest.
 
Meh.

If I gave out awards, he would get first place for:

Great Characters, Great Ideas, Mediocre Plots, and Bad Endings.
 
King wrote a foreword for an edition of Jim Thompson's "The Killer Inside Me" that gave away major plot points.
Stephen King can kiss my entire ass.
 
If I gave out awards, he would get first place for:

Great Characters, Great Ideas, Mediocre Plots, and Bad Endings.

I agree if we were discussing the King of say late 1980's on. I have to say that from Carrie up to Pet Sematary and The Talisman(Written with Peter Straub) he was pretty dominant. Then as I said he just seemed to lose direction and no one wanted to tell him his shit needed editing and that he was starting to suck.

For me Robert McCammon was the same way, a great stretch of books from They Thirst to Swan Song then a nose dive.

I have to agree with JBJ it seems that there is a peaking point and that's it.
 
I agree if we were discussing the King of say late 1980's on. I have to say that from Carrie up to Pet Sematary and The Talisman(Written with Peter Straub) he was pretty dominant.

Agreed. Apparently, getting hit by a car ruins your writing ability. Go figure.
 
Don't take me seriously, I just can't say too much of anything bad about Stephan king... I have a collection of thirty of his novels, I'm in the process of bringing them to my college dorm one shoebox at a time over visits home. I loved all of his books except 'from a buick8 and the fourth book in the 'dark tower' series.

Oh, and as far as disturbing sex scenes... At least in the underage gangbang it was consensual. In 'Rose Madder' the woman remembers being sodomized with a tennis racket by her abusive husband, and in the extended version of the stand, there is a pretty graphic gay rape scene, where a mentally retarded man is sodomized with the tip of a pistol and forced to give another man a handjob.

For those who want to like stephan king, but find themselves unable, he wrote five or six novels under the penname Richard Bachman, and I like most of them way better then a lot of his work. Especially 'The running man' and 'the long walk'
 
I've solved the Stephen King conundrum by just not reading him (other than his book on writing). Not avoiding him really, he just has popped into my hands on the way to the book store cash register.
 
I agree if we were discussing the King of say late 1980's on. I have to say that from Carrie up to Pet Sematary and The Talisman(Written with Peter Straub) he was pretty dominant. Then as I said he just seemed to lose direction and no one wanted to tell him his shit needed editing and that he was starting to suck.

For me Robert McCammon was the same way, a great stretch of books from They Thirst to Swan Song then a nose dive.

I have to agree with JBJ it seems that there is a peaking point and that's it.

Every best selling writer I can think of has the same problem: They crank out 6-10 best sellers and lose the wind in their sails. Maybe its The Peter Principle at work, rising to their level of incompetence?
 
Don't take me seriously, I just can't say too much of anything bad about Stephan king... I have a collection of thirty of his novels, I'm in the process of bringing them to my college dorm one shoebox at a time over visits home. I loved all of his books except 'from a buick8 and the fourth book in the 'dark tower' series.

Oh, and as far as disturbing sex scenes... At least in the underage gangbang it was consensual. In 'Rose Madder' the woman remembers being sodomized with a tennis racket by her abusive husband, and in the extended version of the stand, there is a pretty graphic gay rape scene, where a mentally retarded man is sodomized with the tip of a pistol and forced to give another man a handjob.

For those who want to like stephan king, but find themselves unable, he wrote five or six novels under the penname Richard Bachman, and I like most of them way better then a lot of his work. Especially 'The running man' and 'the long walk'

I'm a huge fan of Stephen King but he's cranked out crap since MISERY. IT would be a horror classic with some tough love editing that removes about 1/2 the manuscript. IT shoulda been 2 novels minus all the filler.
 
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