Training Techniques for Mental Conditioning

darlynd

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There are several techniques that have been used to introduce a submissive into various forms of submission and the mental conditioning of service as sub or slave or other.

To to Dominants: What qualifications are determined before what stages of mental trying are trialed?
How does a Dominant determine when the s/s/o is ready for the next level of Dominance?

For subs/slaves: What forms of training have provided you with the most mental acuity and acceptance of your submission?

Example: I was once under a Master who trained me in objectification to teach me that my focus should be outwards to the Master and not inwards toward my own wanton needs ….
 
I am having a hard time understanding your words, sorry to say.

"wanton" and "needs" are two words that really don't go together. A need is a need. What we truly need cannot be considered "wanton," or else we'd all be blaming each other for our wanton breathing of the air.

Can you try again?
 
I think mostly it's an effort thing. Chicks are lazy I tells you. Smacks help.
 
There are several techniques that have been used to introduce a submissive into various forms of submission and the mental conditioning of service as sub or slave or other.

To to Dominants: What qualifications are determined before what stages of mental trying are trialed?
How does a Dominant determine when the s/s/o is ready for the next level of Dominance?

For subs/slaves: What forms of training have provided you with the most mental acuity and acceptance of your submission?

Example: I was once under a Master who trained me in objectification to teach me that my focus should be outwards to the Master and not inwards toward my own [bold]wants or needs [/bold]….

I apologize if my question(s) confused anyone.

What I am trying to get to is understanding what drives a Dominant's decision to use certain methods of training. In this case, with the purpose of the training to increase a submissives want to submit or help them refocus their actions on their Doms and less on themselves.

I have found it interesting that there have been some methods of non-sexual training that have affected me more in those regards than any type of sexual degredation.

However, there are various methods that exist, and I would like to have some insights as to what, why and when of those methods.

Hopefully I have made myself more clear. And again, I apologize for any previous confusion.

~d
 
Meh.

I've known some who had a grand plan behind what he did, but for the most part, in my experience, they just do what gets their rocks off.
 
It sounds like someone thinks that subs are tricked or placed into that station, by the domme. I think it is that the sub is enjoying the attention as well as placing their own needs to be fulfilled by the domme.
 
I think it is that the sub is enjoying the attention as well as placing their own needs to be fulfilled by the domme.

It'd be nice if someone wrote a book about being submissive similar to what Toni Bentley did for anal sex with her book.
 
Meh.

I've known some who had a grand plan behind what he did, but for the most part, in my experience, they just do what gets their rocks off.

LOL. I am sure there are a great many who only wish to "get their rocks off"!

I am sure there are others with a more psychological approach.
 
LOL. I am sure there are a great many who only wish to "get their rocks off"!

I am sure there are others with a more psychological approach.
What do you mean when you say you were trained in objectification?

I gotta say, I doubt you'll find too many cerebral-focused PYL/py ("pick your label) types on literotica per se-- most people come here for the graphic porn writing in the first place...
 
I prefer to get mine off the shelf, fully prepared for my consumption. I recognize that others prefer to do much of the work, just as some people like to do all the cutting and chopping that goes into making a fine salad.

I'm the guy who'd rather get the hot roast chicken from the deli.
 
mental tennis

Personally the psychological aspect is what drives me. Combined with the physical stimulation.
I love the mental tennis game. Its awesome. I love it and its enhanced my life tremendously. My Dom is the best. He gives me the leeway to enjoy this aspect. I live to serve only him. He is my drug, my intoxication, and my obsession. I just like driving him crazy too.:rose::kiss::catroar:
 
I don't think it has to do with not liking the psychological aspect but the quoted part sounds a lot like a teacher/student relationship and that's not for everyone.
There are several techniques that have been used to introduce a submissive into various forms of submission and the mental conditioning of service as sub or slave or other.

To to Dominants: What qualifications are determined before what stages of mental trying are trialed?
How does a Dominant determine when the s/s/o is ready for the next level of Dominance?

For subs/slaves: What forms of training have provided you with the most mental acuity and acceptance of your submission?

Example: I was once under a Master who trained me in objectification to teach me that my focus should be outwards to the Master and not inwards toward my own wanton needs ….
 
Personally the psychological aspect is what drives me. Combined with the physical stimulation.
I love the mental tennis game. Its awesome. I love it and its enhanced my life tremendously. My Dom is the best. He gives me the leeway to enjoy this aspect. I live to serve only him. He is my drug, my intoxication, and my obsession. I just like driving him crazy too.:rose::kiss::catroar:

That is much as it is for me. I was fortunate to have had training from a Master who understood this and taught me to orgasm from mental stimulation … to the point of subspace no less :)

While this probably means I am highly susceptible to suggestion, I am a very Alpha individual in my workplace. Giving over the decision making responsibilities is on of the subbie perks :)
 
LOL. I am sure there are a great many who only wish to "get their rocks off"!

I am sure there are others with a more psychological approach.

Um...yeah, I think that's what I said.

Personally the psychological aspect is what drives me. Combined with the physical stimulation.
I love the mental tennis game. Its awesome. I love it and its enhanced my life tremendously. My Dom is the best. He gives me the leeway to enjoy this aspect. I live to serve only him. He is my drug, my intoxication, and my obsession. I just like driving him crazy too.:rose::kiss::catroar:

That is much as it is for me. I was fortunate to have had training from a Master who understood this and taught me to orgasm from mental stimulation … to the point of subspace no less :)

While this probably means I am highly susceptible to suggestion, I am a very Alpha individual in my workplace. Giving over the decision making responsibilities is on of the subbie perks :)

I have experienced both, they weren't all love drops and rainbows.

Something along the lines of what you are looking for:

I have a playmate domly type who wanted to connect my sexuality in one continuous line. He had me straddle his knee with me in bra and panties while he was fully clothed. He fondled, kissed, bit, and sucked on my breasts while I humped madly at his knee. Soaked through his pants. He had me tell him every so often how I felt the pleasure, and where, until I could feel it deep inside my stomach, which he replaced with the word womb. He had me focus on that spot, that feeling until I felt as if I would explode. Then he let me orgasm. From that point forward, breast play was a huge turn on, where it didn't do much for me before.

Something along the mental "training" lines that isn't all sunshine:

I had another playmate who would only respond to master. Every sentence had to end with Master. I was never allowed to look in his eyes. Every action he did was a grand gesture to make me feel insignificant. He promised me activities that he never intended to follow through on as a carrot before the horse. I had to kiss his shoes before he left my apt and thank him for what transpired, even if it was something that left me mentally shaken and distraught. Every piece was put into place to make me feel like I was beneath him, lower than him. He used my desire to please to gain him access to multiple women, women he may not have had a chance with on his own. I rarely received praise, his reasoning being that it would keep me pushing to do better. For a while I was convinced I was not worth more than the dirt he had me lick off of his boots. I wouldn't look at other men, wouldn't speak to other people, because I did not feel worthy. That was also in his plan, to keep me from leaving. I still suffer from mental trauma from that relationship. Not my idea of happy fun kinky times.

Another non-D/s example:

My ex husband like to dabble in psychology and hypnosis. When I was asleep he would make suggestions in my ear. All I remember from the experience is waking up with his hand in my cunt, him telling me to cum and me having the most powerful orgasm I'd ever experienced. From that point on, that one little word, spoken in just the right tone of voice will make me orgasm, even with no other stimulation. Walk up to me in a grocery store, whisper firmly that little word, and I'll be trying to wiggle my way to a less crowded isle, biting my bottom lip the whole wile.

All three men, while had different motives, and different things they wanted to accomplish, all three of them did these things for one reason. . . it got them hot. It wasn't to better me, it wasn't so I'd be the bestest subbie in the whole wide world, it was because it got their dick hard.

No deep motivation. No philosophical debate. Pure lust.
 
No deep motivation. No philosophical debate. Pure lust.
Which is, honestly, my only motivation. But I won't play those games with other people's heads.

Just only with their bodies. ;)
 
All three men, while had different motives, and different things they wanted to accomplish, all three of them did these things for one reason. . . it got them hot. It wasn't to better me, it wasn't so I'd be the bestest subbie in the whole wide world, it was because it got their dick hard.

No deep motivation. No philosophical debate. Pure lust.

Not speaking about your relationships specifically, but a strong desire by a PYL to get his or her rocks off does not necessarily preclude a desire to improve a pyl. ;)
 
What do you mean when you say you were trained in objectification?

It is a long story that I have found stirs up too much debate. I will be happy to detail in PM. But in short it was a mental exercise in putting myself last to my Masters wishes.
 
i think the other thing was once sleeping in a very small room for a while. not all at once, but it did something.
 
Thank you for sharing wench. I am familiar with all 3 types, and with none of them today, so no matter what they thought they accomplished at the time, they lost.

That goes for your 3 and mine! :)
 
Which is, honestly, my only motivation. But I won't play those games with other people's heads.

Just only with their bodies. ;)

I am absolutely okay with the fact that sex is what makes the world go round. I quite enjoy sex...would just be nice to enjoy it more frequently. :rolleyes:

Not speaking about your relationships specifically, but a strong desire by a PYL to get his or her rocks off does not necessarily preclude a desire to improve a pyl. ;)

No, it does not always, nor need to, agreed. It has, however, been my experience that we can only supply enough blood to think with one large organ at a time. I admit my own failings in thinking with the one above my shoulders at the most appropriate times.

There have been men, and women, in my acquaintance who genuinely cared for my well being and encouraged my development (not all of the men listed above are excluded from this).

Thank you for sharing wench. I am familiar with all 3 types, and with none of them today, so no matter what they thought they accomplished at the time, they lost.

That goes for your 3 and mine! :)

You must forgive me if I seem harsh. I seem to have lost all romanticism in life at the moment.

The first man I mentioned is a great friend, when he is about anyway. If he did not have this nasty habit of disappearing, then reemerging with out warning to ravish me and spend hours having the most mind imploding sex I have ever experienced, I would call him a very treasured friend indeed. Not that I'm complaining about the sex bit, that is quite nice.

My ex husband was simply young and took liberties he should not have. I've since had great fun with his trespass against me.

Both of these men cared for me in their own way, that care simply did not take president over their own desires.

As to the third man I mentioned, well I'm sure there is some girl some where thanking the starts that she may eat the dirt off of his shoes before he goes off to work. That treatment was not to my betterment, but some where there is some one it suits.
 
No, it does not always, nor need to, agreed. It has, however, been my experience that we can only supply enough blood to think with one large organ at a time. I admit my own failings in thinking with the one above my shoulders at the most appropriate times.

Blood can slosh around to where it's needed at any given time. (I learned that in biology, dude!)

There have been men, and women, in my acquaintance who genuinely cared for my well being and encouraged my development (not all of the men listed above are excluded from this).

I approve of genuine care for wenchie. Did this involve taking you behind the barn?
 
It is a long story that I have found stirs up too much debate. I will be happy to detail in PM. But in short it was a mental exercise in putting myself last to my Masters wishes.
I'm thinking I'd rather not hear it myself at this time... It sounds like something that stirs up the black-caped avenger in me, truthfully. I hate that shit. Too many "masters" train someone to forget about their own needs, and never remember to take care of those needs themselves. I don't trust most men to be mindful.

But we have a poster here, ownedsubgal, who has mentioned a few things that seem like this-- at least, in their results. She isn't very regular any longer, but does turn up once in a while. And as far as I know her owner has never much failed her.
 
Blood can slosh around to where it's needed at any given time. (I learned that in biology, dude!)



I approve of genuine care for wenchie. Did this involve taking you behind the barn?

Taking behind has been involved, but no barn. ;) :kiss:

I'm thinking I'd rather not hear it myself at this time... It sounds like something that stirs up the black-caped avenger in me, truthfully. I hate that shit. Too many "masters" train someone to forget about their own needs, and never remember to take care of those needs themselves. I don't trust most men to be mindful.

But we have a poster here, ownedsubgal, who has mentioned a few things that seem like this-- at least, in their results. She isn't very regular any longer, but does turn up once in a while. And as far as I know her owner has never much failed her.

This is actually where my head is on the topic as well. It goes straight to that place where "I am slave, I am nothing" and I don't like it. I was miserable and felt I had no right to be because I had no right to feel anything other than utter joy that this person would even spit upon me. For some, that works, not me.
 
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