Plot Idea?

[R. Richard]

Interesting news item that might just be a plot idea.

NYC arrest records: Many Occupy Wall Street protesters live in luxury

Many “Occupy Wall Street” protesters arrested in New York City “occupy” more luxurious homes than their “99 percent” rhetoric might suggest, a Daily Caller investigation has found.

For each of the 984 Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested in New York City between September 18 and October 15, police collected and filed an information sheet recording the arrestee’s name, age, sex, criminal charge, home address and — in most cases — race. The Daily Caller has obtained all of this information from a source in the New York City government.

Among addresses for which information is available, single-family homes listed on those police intake forms have a median value of $305,000 — a far higher number than the $185,400 median value of owner-occupied housing units in the United States.

Some of the homes where “Occupy” arrestees reside, viewed through Google Maps and the Multiple Listing Service real estate database, are the definition of opulence.

Using county assessors and online resources such as Zillow.com, TheDC estimated property values and rents for 87 percent of the homes and 59 percent of the apartments listed in the arrest records.

Even in the nation’s currently depressed housing market, at least 95 of the protesters’ residences are worth approximately $500,000 or more.

 

[sr71plt]

You can't get a "luxury" house in my region for $305,000. And even a $500,000 house doesn't put anyone in the top 1 percent. So the point of this escapes me. (Although the thinly disguised claim of it being an erotica story plot idea doesn't. Duh)

(I'll bet you aren't in the upper 1 percent, either, RR. So you are carrying the bucket for someone else. Bet they're smirking about the chumps that will do that for them for free. )

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Occupy Wall Street is not against the wealthy, it is against the systemic imbalances which insure that the already wealthy stay wealthy and get wealthier, while the poor stay poor and get poorer. It is, however, against the wealthy whose efforts have created and maintain this imbalance of rewards.

And some wealthy people — not the con artists, banksters, lobbyists and lawmakers who have perverted our economy and our democracy — but some wealthy people, who also possess a soul and a conscious, have joined the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

They have put up a web site to explain their reasons for joining.


We are the 1 percent. We stand with the 99 percent.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I think this shows that a lot of people who are living comfortably are still motivated by compassion, despite all attempts of the right to destroy that human instinct.

Real, true compassion-- the type that is willing to go to jail for it. it's good to know.

 

[R. Richard]

OWS Compassion?

Oct. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Occupy Wall Street protests assailing income inequality, joblessness and big banks may have some unintended consequences. They’re hurting nearby merchants as police barricades deter shoppers.

“If this doesn’t stop soon I will be out of business,” said Marc Epstein, 53, president of Milk Street Cafe on Wall Street, less than a block from the New York Stock Exchange.

Sales have dropped about 20 percent since the protests began last month and the 103 jobs created by the cafe’s opening in June are now at risk, said Epstein, who is not alone. Caroline Anderson, general manager of Boutique Tourbillon, a Wall Street jewelry store, said customer traffic is down about 20 percent, and Vincent Alessi, a managing partner at Bobby Van’s Steakhouse on Broad Street, said his lunch business has been cut in half.

The Occupy Wall Street movement that began in New York with about 1,000 people on Sept. 17 has spread to cities on four continents as demonstrators from London to Rome and Chicago to Sydney have pitched tents in public spaces. Police, whose displays of force also may be hurting business as they block access to tourist destinations, have arrested hundreds.

“These protesters don’t understand the consequences of their actions,” Epstein said. “Who’s going to create the jobs they’re banging their drums for?”

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

OWES was hijacked by all the Usual Suspects, I mean Michael Moore is there, too.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Let me cry a river for the Wall Street jewelry store, which may be experiencing some sad and troubling financial difficulty for the first time.

But first, I have thousands of local jewelry stores to weep for, that have already shut down because the local people all over this country -- who do not work on Wall Street-- have had no money to spend on jewelry for about two years.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

OWES was hijacked by all the Usual Suspects, I mean Michael Moore is there, too.

GOOGLE Search: Occupy Wall Street leadership

Occupy Wall Street is going nowhere without leadership - CNN
Occupy Wall Street is 99% dead - Jon Friedman's Media Web
5 Occupy Wall Street Leaders (Update 1) - TheStreet
Occupy Wall Street: Where are the leaders? - CBS News
Does 'Occupy Wall Street' have leaders? Does it need any? - Yahoo ...
The Stealth Leaders Of Occupy Wall Street | Fast Company
Occupy Wall Street: Disruption & Leaderless Leadership
Occupy Wall Street Leader: Jason Ahmadi
David Graeber, the Anti-Leader of Occupy Wall Street - Businessweek
Occupy Wall Street Needs Leadership to be Politically Relevant ...
Shunning Leaders And Goals, Occupy Wall St Grows Organically ...
Occupy Wall Street Leader: Justin Wedes
Like Protests in the 1960s, Occupy Wall Street Needs Leaders to ...
Occupy Wall Street and Post Heroic Leadership - Executive Coach

Yep, there's a pretty good consensus in the media on who the leaders of OCCUPY WALL STREET are and where they are taking it.

 

[sr71plt]

So, giving up any pretense that this thread was about erotic story plotlines, RR?

Personally, after a few days of it, I don't see the utility of a leaderless sit-in protest movement like this.

 

[JackLuis]

So, giving up any pretense that this thread was about erotic story plotlines, RR?

Personally, after a few days of it, I don't see the utility of a leaderless sit-in protest movement like this.

With out "Leaders" there is no one the "Goons" can intimidate.

I hear that even Eric Cantor is talking about wealth inequality now, so so good has come from it.

This 'movement' is caused by the reaction to the reduction in real wages and cost of speculation that has brought this country to it's economic knees. It is just too bad that it didn't happen sooner.

 

[R. Richard]

So, giving up any pretense that this thread was about erotic story plotlines, RR?

Personally, after a few days of it, I don't see the utility of a leaderless sit-in protest movement like this.

Plot lines?
Rich protestor meets poor protestor and discussions of why lead to sex.
Rich protestor meets rich protestor and discussions of why lead to sex.
Rich protestor meets worker unemployed, due to protest, leads to sex.
Poor protestor meets worker unemployed, due to protest, leads to sex.
Unemployed worker attacks rich protestor over job loss, leads to non-consent sex or guilt sex.
Rich protestor is attacked by homeless predator, leads to non-consent sex.
Poor protestor is attacked by homeless predator, leads to non-consent sex and a realization that not all poor people have the same agendas.

Maybe your failure to see plot possibilities is a lack of imagination?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Rich protester meets other rich protester, leads to sex and a brand new philanthropic project.

two poor protesters meet, come up with an idea for a new business venture. Will it work, or fail, who knows? -- Anyway, the sex is great.

 

[sr71plt]

Maybe your failure to see plot possibilities is a lack of imagination?

Oh, I didn't have any trouble figuring out your purpose for posting. But how does it feel to be a chump carrying the bucket for some superrich guy--against your own self-interest? I'm sure he's counting on dumb bunnies like you.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh, I didn't have any trouble figuring out your purpose for posting. But how does it feel to be a chump carrying the bucket for some superrich guy--against your own self-interest? I'm sure he's counting on dumb bunnies like you.

It must feel just like a tea party.

Let me link to an article that may or may not be illuminating, regarding the subtle difference between what you might call a "normally" rich person, and the 1% that we are talking about;

Peter Max meets Wall Street

 

[sr71plt]

Thanks. It did make me laugh to see someone comparing someone living in a $300,000--or even a $500,000--house as being anything like the top 1 percent of wage earners in the United States. To me, it shows that they themselves are so far down the feeding chain that they can have no perspective of how the top 1 percent are really living.

And, yes, the chumps who carry water for these guys are just as delusioned and self-defeating as those tea party people are.

 

[stephen55]

Occupy Wall Street is not against the wealthy, it is against the systemic imbalances which insure that the already wealthy stay wealthy and get wealthier, while the poor stay poor and get poorer. It is, however, against the wealthy whose efforts have created and maintain this imbalance of rewards.

And some wealthy people — not the con artists, banksters, lobbyists and lawmakers who have perverted our economy and our democracy — but some wealthy people, who also possess a soul and a conscious, have joined the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

They have put up a web site to explain their reasons for joining.


We are the 1 percent. We stand with the 99 percent.

Very true!!

Instead of being about us vs. them, OWS is about corporate greed, maleficence and a system that allows it to continue.

It's only the real usual suspects (take a bow, JBJ) who can't see this.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Peter max meets Wall Street

That article... blew my mind, as we used to say. Here's Peter Max, who takes pride in his nearly-a-scam way of making more money. he does it by preying on people's desire for status. A wealthy client gets to be a philanthropist, and also have a wonderful protrait for the wall, created by one of our modern icons. But wait-- there's more! For a bunchmore money, they canhave even more of the icon, and also, more of their own fantastic phiz to admire.

it's pretty greasy. But you know what-- Max at least offers something of value, and he comes through with the goods. His money-making scheme is still based on decent capitalist values.

Whereas these guys he came up against? The way they think about money is nothing like the rest of us. It's nearly incomprehensible to me-- in fact, I have not yet been able to put it into words. It's as if you tried to make love to a human-shaped grasshopper or something, it's so alien.
And the scope of their world is so very limited. Their peers are this incredibly minute group of people, the 1% of human-shaped grasshoppers. Max is not a peer. They don't respond to him as one. His product is meaningless, and they fixate on the only aspect of it that interests them-- the price-- and they interact on one level alone, the grasshopper level.

or something like that.

 

[sr71plt]

Very true!!

Yes, but . . . The real point is that the people the OP's article are targeting--people living in houses worth $300,000 or even $500,000--are well into the 99 percent. They aren't anywhere close to the top 1 percent. The article's premise is false, and RR was naive to give it any credence. There's no "there" there in the article. It is, however, typical of a certain lamebrained approach to accusation politics in this country--and there always are a lot of the lamebrained to soak the false message up (and even to rebroadcast it).

 

[Stella_Omega]

I could talk about the irony of RR trying to play the "compassion" card, but-- It's boring to poke at the man. There's no there, there.

So we're moving on.

 

[DeeZire]

I predict RR's next "plot bunny" thread will be about the black-suited anarchists at the Oakland OWS march breaking windows and causing other acts of vandalism, proving that the entire OWS movement is corrupt. Yep, lotta plot bunnies there.

 

[R. Richard]

Of course I lack compassion.

The OWS people are deserving of compassion. on the other hand, the minimum wage people who work in the Wall Street area at the little restaurants, coffee shops, variety stores, etc. and lose their jobs, due to the OWS people, aren't worthy of compassion. Of a jewelry store loses business, the rich bastard who owns the store has it coming. As to the low wage clerks in the stores, apparently anyone who works for a rich bastard doesn't deserve compassion.

The heroic OWS people who leave the $500K homes of their parents to protest in the streets might just provide plot bunnies. However, said plot bunnies would interfere with the political beliefs of many here in the AH. Plot bunnies about the minimum wage people trying to survive in the very expensive land of the man with the tan hat would also interfere with the political beliefs of many here in the AH.

People, I was one of the 1%. No, not the top 1%, the very bottom 1%. At the age of 12-years-old, I had to go out and jackroll drunks, in order to buy food. I was making a real dent in the number of people who abused alcohol in South Central LA. Did the residents appreciate my hard work, no. Did the scumbags appreciate my hard work, no. I also suspect that many of those in the AH would also not have supported my unlicensed cure for alcoholism. However, you have compassion and I don't.

You have compassion for the dilettantes who force the poor out of wage earning work, make noise all night, so that the local residents have trouble sleeping, urinate and deficate in the street and block traffic. I have none. You have no compassion for the poor and the workers. I do. How can you stand to think that way? TIA.

 

[sr71plt]

Can't wait to see the erotic story you've chosen to write on your plot idea, RR. (Or did you forget again that this was an erotica board not a Minuteman rally?)

 

[Stella_Omega]

People, I was one of the 1%. No, not the top 1%, the very bottom 1%. At the age of 12-years-old, I had to go out and jackroll drunks, in order to buy food. I was making a real dent in the number of people who abused alcohol in South Central LA. Did the residents appreciate my hard work, no. Did the scumbags appreciate my hard work, no. I also suspect that many of those in the AH would also not have supported my unlicensed cure for alcoholism. However, you have compassion and I don't.

Now-- there's a plot bunny!

You've worked in other violent businesses as well, right? Repo, and bounty hunting if I recall?

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

The best description of what exactly it is that those crazy OCCUPY WALL STREET ocupados are protesting about, and it comes from an old-fashioned journalist.


Bill Moyers: Our Politicians Are Money Launderers Not Too Different from Tony Soprano

Americans have learned the hard way that when rich organizations and wealthy individuals shower Washington with millions in campaign contributions, they get what they want.

November 2, 2011

AlterNet

 

[R. Richard]

Can't wait to see the erotic story you've chosen to write on your plot idea, RR. (Or did you forget again that this was an erotica board not a Minuteman rally?)

I'll let you know when I publish it in Amazon.