Could some RWs here please provide some examples of "real capitalist" countries?

[KingOrfeo]

Could some RWs here please provide some examples of "real capitalist" countries?

I mean, if the U.S. is socialist already, then what country is capitalist? Who's the model we should be striving to copy?

 

[Liar]

Not sure if you want a serious answer, but here goes.

Pre 1997 Hong Kong is often held up as some kind of ideal of successful close-to-laisses-faire capitalism.

I haven't looked into it myself though, so whether that is true or rose colored, or the laisses-faire-ness of it is a whitewash, I dunno.

 

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[Lancecastor]

Russia.

Virtually no government regulation on entrepeneurs.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You are truly out of it.

I'm not the one calling America "socialist."

 

[Drixxx]

I mean, if the U.S. is socialist already, then what country is capitalist? Who's the model we should be striving to copy?

Mexico. They just can't say it out loud because...you know.

 

[off2bed]

People are capitalist, not countries. A country can only get out of the way and let them do it unencumbered, or inhibit them by overregulation, overtaxation, or confiscation.

Hence, the question is a non-sequitur.

 

[Drixxx]

People are capitalist, not countries. A country can only get out of the way and let them do it unencumbered, or inhibit them by overregulation, overtaxation, or confiscation.

Hence, the question is a non-sequitur.

Re-defining words is always a poor choice when trying to win an argument.

 

[KingOrfeo]

People are capitalist, not countries.

OK, that's bullshit to start with.

A country can only get out of the way and let them do it unencumbered, or inhibit them by overregulation, overtaxation, or confiscation.

Hence, the question is a non-sequitur.

What it ain't is irrelevant. If you say America would be better off than it is now without all that -- well, show us some f'rinstances. Extraordinary claims (and you are making one) require extraordinary proof.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Here's a world map coloring countries by their ranking in the Heritage Foundation's and the Wall Street Journal's Index of Economic Freedom,* which ought to cut some ice with the right. The U.S. ranks pretty free, but not quite as free as Canada and Australia and Ireland. So, we should copy those? How, generally speaking? Or copy whom, generally speaking? I mean, if we don't want to be socialists? If pure unfettered capitalism is a system of such obvious value, somebody somewhere must be doing it right! Right, right? I'm sure I heard somebody say that about Communism once.

*It's interesting to compare the various countries' rankings in the IEF, and in the Democracy Index (associated with The Economist, which ain't lefty), and in Freedom House's Freedom in the World report rankings.

 

[vikker]

Somalia.

 

[mercury14]

I mean, if the U.S. is socialist already, then what country is capitalist? Who's the model we should be striving to copy?

I've made this point before. Their arguments about how "liberals want socialism" use a benchmark where no country could ever be considered capitalist. Not even the one their own party envisions for America.

 

[Liar]

People are capitalist, not countries. A country can only get out of the way and let them do it unencumbered, or inhibit them by overregulation, overtaxation, or confiscation.

Hence, the question is a non-sequitur.

Ok, I'll bite. To help you stop tap dancing around the actual question:

Which country is the best for capitalists?

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Capitalism is the dominant economic system of the world. Some examples include the United States, Japan, the UK, and China.


The following is cut and paste, however, I do agree with it. Add Germany, Tawain, and Switzerland to the list:

No country is 100% capitalist. All successful countries today are some combination of capitalism and socialism. Or, you could see it as there being a line, a continuum, between pure socialism and pure capitalism, and every developed country is somewhere on that line between the two.

The US is capitalist and socialist, so are France, England, Japan, Malaysia, Brazil, Iceland, Egypt, South Africa, Samoa, etc. etc.

We in the US are probably the most capitalist country, but we have 'socialized' education, roads and bridges, power and water projects, fire and police protection, and dozens of other things, because over the years we have found this is just the best way to handle these problems.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Ok, I'll bite. To help you stop tap dancing around the actual question

For a minute, I swear I saw him channel the ghost of Fred Astaire.

https://www.tapdance.org/images/up/Image/Legends/FredGinger.jpg

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

United States

1776-1933

 

[off2bed]

Ok, I'll bite. To help you stop tap dancing around the actual question:

Which country is the best for capitalists?

That's the legitimate question. I'm stunned that it came from you, but even a blind blue squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

Orf's whole thread was designed to prove in an illogically yet typically liberal fashion that no country is 'real capitalist" because capitalism is inherently wrong, otherwise "the people" would have created a "real capitalist" country by now. And the ulterior motive was to prove that government intrusion was necessary and the more government intrusion the better.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Orf's whole thread was designed to prove in an illogically yet typically liberal fashion that no country is 'real capitalist" because capitalism is inherently wrong . . .

Nothing of the kind; only to prove that Litsters who call America anything but "capitalist" are full of shit and should STFU with that particular soundbite, forever.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Ok, I'll bite. To help you stop tap dancing around the actual question:

Which country is the best for capitalists?

That's the legitimate question. I'm stunned that it came from you, but even a blind blue squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

Your response is courteous, but not really an answer to the legitimate question, is it?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Capitalism is the dominant economic system of the world. Some examples include the United States, Japan, the UK, and China.


The following is cut and paste, however, I do agree with it. Add Germany, Tawain, and Switzerland to the list:

No country is 100% capitalist. All successful countries today are some combination of capitalism and socialism. Or, you could see it as there being a line, a continuum, between pure socialism and pure capitalism, and every developed country is somewhere on that line between the two.

The US is capitalist and socialist, so are France, England, Japan, Malaysia, Brazil, Iceland, Egypt, South Africa, Samoa, etc. etc.

We in the US are probably the most capitalist country, but we have 'socialized' education, roads and bridges, power and water projects, fire and police protection, and dozens of other things, because over the years we have found this is just the best way to handle these problems.

Shut up with your plain common sense and shit! Different thread! Go away!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"Capitalism" is nothing but the troika of Life, Liberty and Property.




That's why Socialists hate it. They hate Property Rights, therefore they hate Liberty and Life is not far behind what with abortion and iPABs...

To Each According to his Needs, from each according to his ability.

Thus we are able to compare the meteoric rise of the US in world economic affairs with the current state of the Western World's economies, all teetering on the brink of insolvency...

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Shut up with your plain common sense and shit! Different thread! Go away!

When you said 'Who's the model we should be striving to copy?' in your OP, my mind went to sex. When I mentally disregarded that distracting thought, I focused clearly on the first question.

Same thing happened to me in HS in biology class when our bodacious, curvy teacher asked 'Who's the model we should be striving to copy?'. She threw away the naked pic I drew of her and I never got over it.

 

[off2bed]

While a country can be communist, and indeed only a country (i.e. its government) can actually be communist, the opposite is not "a capitalist country." Again, governments are not capitalist. Governments don't produce goods and services for a profit. If they did, they'd be communist.

Orf fails again.

 

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[Liar]

That's the legitimate question. I'm stunned that it came from you, but even a blind blue squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

Orf's whole thread was designed to prove in an illogically yet typically liberal fashion that no country is 'real capitalist" because capitalism is inherently wrong, otherwise "the people" would have created a "real capitalist" country by now. And the ulterior motive was to prove that government intrusion was necessary and the more government intrusion the better.

So answer it.

Or keep on dancing. But don't pretend it's not obvious that you do.