first women-only munch in more than a year...

[Stella_Omega]

called with the object of getting together enough women to be able to count on, for play.

There were six of us. two straight, two pansexual, one asexual, one bisexual. I kept going around the circle, saying things like; "What do you like? What do you want, what do you want to learn?" while Mistress Lisa kept talking about how we couldn't ask any of the dungeon owners for a night to ourselves-- or a discounted entrance fee-- unless we could show up in numbers. There are six dungeons open to the public here, and you'd think there'd already be a women's night in one of them-- and there are Domme's nights, but of course those are geared towards attracting men who hope to be dommed.

I'm thinking that there is one lone leather bar left in L.A. and we might start meeting there, unofficially. No naked play, but no $25.00 entrance fee either.

There's a private party at the end on this month, and I hope to meet some women who just play privately-- because in a town this size? there have got to be just a few! This is nuts!

One cute thing-- one woman said; "I like rope."

I asked; "What do you like to do after you've tied someone up?" and she wasn't really sure... it was all about the rope, for her.

 

[HottieMama]

I wish there were enough women here who were "brave" enough to even meet together without any males around. There is a "Submissive Support Group," which is all female/het coupled. (I know you're shocked right???) It's just basically a big joke though because dominants are still allowed to come to the "meetings." When I questioned this, I was told, "many good submissives won't venture out without their dominant." Really???

Sorry...not trying to bitch on your thread... Sounds like you at least have a small group that are like-minded. I hope it continues to grow and get better for you.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

"many good submissives won't venture out without their dominant." Really???

Maybe it's just because I'm so independent, but I have never understood how someone could be so dependent on someone else, regardless of power exchanges.

 

[Stella_Omega]

There is one woman who has been wonderful online-- interested and interesting, geeky and funny. She claims to be a lesbian. But she said; "women only? I don't roll without my boys. And I don't know any women." So she didn't show. And she still doesn't know any women.

And of course a few guys asked if they could be there.

 

[ultramarineblue]

I wish there were enough women here who were "brave" enough to even meet together without any males around. There is a "Submissive Support Group," which is all female/het coupled. (I know you're shocked right???) It's just basically a big joke though because dominants are still allowed to come to the "meetings." When I questioned this, I was told, "many good submissives won't venture out without their dominant." Really???

Sorry...not trying to bitch on your thread... Sounds like you at least have a small group that are like-minded. I hope it continues to grow and get better for you.

I don't get that. There is a lady's munch I go to when I can. According to that, none of us that attend are 'good' submissives. Oh well, guess I won't ever have to worry about being considered true or any of that.

 

[CutieMouse]

... because dominants are still allowed to come to the "meetings." When I questioned this, I was told, "many good submissives won't venture out without their dominant." Really???

Whenever I read stuff like that I end up thinking "Christ, how burdensome."

Because taken to it's most logical extreme, that would mean the man has to be present when grocery shopping, running errands, filling up the car, going to lunch, picking up a gallon of milk, getting the kids to and from school, running to the post office... And that would be on top of working full time, having his own interests/hobbies, overseeing things at home, being dominant, etc.

Blech.

 

[HottieMama]

Whenever I read stuff like that I end up thinking "Christ, how burdensome."

Because taken to it's most logical extreme, that would mean the man has to be present when grocery shopping, running errands, filling up the car, going to lunch, picking up a gallon of milk, getting the kids to and from school, running to the post office... And that would be on top of working full time, having his own interests/hobbies, overseeing things at home, being dominant, etc.

Blech.

Precisely. I quite value the ability to "wipe my own ass..."

 

[the captians wench]

Maybe it's just because I'm so independent, but I have never understood how someone could be so dependent on someone else, regardless of power exchanges.

I can function either way, and have, but I think I'm happier having some independence.

Whenever I read stuff like that I end up thinking "Christ, how burdensome."

Because taken to it's most logical extreme, that would mean the man has to be present when grocery shopping, running errands, filling up the car, going to lunch, picking up a gallon of milk, getting the kids to and from school, running to the post office... And that would be on top of working full time, having his own interests/hobbies, overseeing things at home, being dominant, etc.

Blech.

This is why I've never understood why anyone would want to micro manage some one else. Talk about lack of freedom!

 

[ownedsubgal]

Whenever I read stuff like that I end up thinking "Christ, how burdensome."

Because taken to it's most logical extreme, that would mean the man has to be present when grocery shopping, running errands, filling up the car, going to lunch, picking up a gallon of milk, getting the kids to and from school, running to the post office... And that would be on top of working full time, having his own interests/hobbies, overseeing things at home, being dominant, etc.

Blech.

funny, sounds a lot like my life. hopefully my Master does not feel burdened. He does feel quite desperately needed, a delicious high for someone like him.

anywho, i also couldn't imagine "venturing out" to any sort of public event/gathering, particularly with strangers or those barely known, without Daddy. there's the issue of me being paralyzingly shy first of all, add to that being generally socially awkward and terrified of the world, constantly afraid i'm going to make a fool of myself, etc...yeah, i just can't see meeting up and socializing with a group of women. and i say women specifically because my social anxiety amplifies about 10X around females, and i really don't know why.

yet at the same time, i'm one of those who has always moaned about not having any female friends, or specifically submissive female friends. it's something i still very much want to happen, but the combination of my personality/quirks and way of life seem to make it basically impossible.

 

[Stella_Omega]

funny, sounds a lot like my life. hopefully my Master does not feel burdened. He does feel quite desperately needed, a delicious high for someone like him.

anywho, i also couldn't imagine "venturing out" to any sort of public event/gathering, particularly with strangers or those barely known, without Daddy. there's the issue of me being paralyzingly shy first of all, add to that being generally socially awkward and terrified of the world, constantly afraid i'm going to make a fool of myself, etc...yeah, i just can't see meeting up and socializing with a group of women. and i say women specifically because my social anxiety amplifies about 10X around females, and i really don't know why.

yet at the same time, i'm one of those who has always moaned about not having any female friends, or specifically submissive female friends. it's something i still very much want to happen, but the combination of my personality/quirks and way of life seem to make it basically impossible.

I thought of you when CutieMouse said that.

I gotta say though-- from the conversations I've been having on fetlife with the submissives attached to a group of Dom dudes-- you would not like the company very much. These women are very into managing their men. When i made a comment that the guys were stomping their feet like a chorus line of pouting, leather-clad Shirley Temples, and that I was shocked that they had so little focus or foresight-- she basically said; "Yeah, that's what Doms are like, and that's why we love them."

Totally enabling. Wow, my head is whirling.

 

[BiBunny]

I think there's a difference between genuine anxiety--which is something I experience on the regular--and just having your head too far up someone's ass to see straight. Just sayin'.

 

[KoPilot]

Remember back in middle and elementary school when girls would only go to the backroom in packs? Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of. :T

 

[Stella_Omega]

And today the woman who said she couldn't go without her boys along posts, "Oh did it actually go down? How come no one told me!"

 

[CutieMouse]

I've been reading OSG for enough years that I sometimes feel like I should always remember to throw in the disclaimer *Except in the instance of OSG." Because she is literally the only person I've ever 'known' for whom constant supervision strikes me as necessary, valuable, correct and beneficial to her relationship.

When I hear the average "Good submissives won't go anywhere without their Dom/Master", I put those people in the same category as the "Gosh golly I broke a rule... I guess now you have to spank me!" types. Yes I know this is judgmental as hell of me, but if I'm dead honest it's usually the first thing that pops into my head.

 

[Chiara_searches]

As much as I am enjoying my current beau, I'm not sure he's my forever guy, although I try diligently not to put much thought on the issue at this point. However, if it becomes necessary, I hope one day to be brave enough to go to a munch and I think a women's only munch would be a much more comfortable place to start. I think it's a fantastic idea, so Stella, I hope you find success in organizing it to be an ongoing thing.