Who would marry a Prostitute?

[Ishmael]

Did you know that Sailors have sex with prostitutes when they visit foreign lands? And if you see a Sailor married to a Filipino or Tai woman, you can betcha that they married a prostitute

Sad but true.

Broaden your scope.

Ishmael

 

[Phelia]

At this point I'd marry almost anyone who could be sincere when she lied and said she loved me.

Funny, because I'd sooner marry someone who could honestly say they hated me.

And this is why men aged 45 or older have a less than 5% chance of getting married: for most the libido dimishes sharply, so the promise of sex has drastically diminishing power.

Is that a real statistic? Hadn't heard that. Interesting. Is the % for women over 45 in the same ballpark?

 

[Ishmael]

Funny, because I'd sooner marry someone who could honestly say they hated me.



Is that a real statistic? Hadn't heard that. Interesting. Is the % for women over 45 in the same ballpark?

The statistic and the reason may have nothing in common. Actually the reason given is that women equate sex with love, or that women are animals incapable of true love. Anyway, that's one take.

The other is that men over 45 stop thinking with their dick. (Obviously a fallacy when applied universally, but not without merit.)

The nut of it is that sex = love. And if that is true there is no need for society, marriage, or any of the other customs we've invented to separate us from the baboons.

Ishmael

 

[atmas]

Funny, because I'd sooner marry someone who could honestly say they hated me.



Is that a real statistic? Hadn't heard that. Interesting. Is the % for women over 45 in the same ballpark?

It is an internet statistic, derived quite possibly from real research at some point but possibly a bit more suspect now. And it is couched in a discussion cautioning women against 45 year old men as being possibly inured to their wiles.

It does not bring in any mention of 45 year old men who have wanted nothing more than to be married and to be good husbands, but have been cursed by being shy, quiet, and no match for the ferocious ability of some to self-promote.

 

[Phelia]

The statistic and the reason may have nothing in common. Actually the reason given is that women equate sex with love, or that women are animals incapable of true love. Anyway, that's one take.

The other is that men over 45 stop thinking with their dick. (Obviously a fallacy when applied universally, but not without merit.)

The nut of it is that sex = love. And if that is true there is no need for society, marriage, or any of the other customs we've invented to separate us from the baboons.

Ishmael

Well, the correct reason would have everything to do with the statistic, and as such, would have quite a bit in common. I am curious to know the reason.

As for the "reason given," as it is a new statistic to me, I have only seen what atmas has posited, which deals exclusively with the man's desire for sex, so I don't see where you're drawing from.

And for the rest, it seems you are operating on the basis that love = marriage, but even beyond that, the statement that if sex were to equal love then society would become irrelevant is so silly that I don't feel like answering.

 

[Phelia]

It is an internet statistic, derived quite possibly from real research at some point but possibly a bit more suspect now. And it is couched in a discussion cautioning women against 45 year old men as being possibly inured to their wiles.

It does not bring in any mention of 45 year old men who have wanted nothing more than to be married and to be good husbands, but have been cursed by being shy, quiet, and no match for the ferocious ability of some to self-promote.

Internet statistics are notorious for favouring sensationalism over nuance. Also, they make excellent infographics.

 

[Ishmael]

Well, the correct reason would have everything to do with the statistic, and as such, would have quite a bit in common. I am curious to know the reason.

As for the "reason given," as it is a new statistic to me, I have only seen what atmas has posited, which deals exclusively with the man's desire for sex, so I don't see where you're drawing from.

And for the rest, it seems you are operating on the basis that love = marriage, but even beyond that, the statement that if sex were to equal love then society would become irrelevant is so silly that I don't feel like answering.

First paragraph, correct reasons are guesses at best. I suppose that there is a 2-Sigma curve somewhere, but I also suppose the interpretation of the data is highly subject to question.

Paragraph two, it presumes that women have no part in the sex equation. I didn't make that presumption.

Paragraph three, No, I'm merely responding. I have no desire to marry, actually I've given up on the prospect. I haven't changed teams I've just come to realize that my own choices in women has been extraordinarily flawed. (Made some great kids though.)

Ishmael

 

[atmas]

The statistic and the reason may have nothing in common. Actually the reason given is that women equate sex with love, or that women are animals incapable of true love. Anyway, that's one take.

The other is that men over 45 stop thinking with their dick. (Obviously a fallacy when applied universally, but not without merit.)

The nut of it is that sex = love. And if that is true there is no need for society, marriage, or any of the other customs we've invented to separate us from the baboons.

Ishmael

The statistic is real, though, and is derived from the 2000 census, so slightly dated but likely still accurate.

However, the discussion around the statistic asserts intent: it is asserted that if a man reaches age 45 and is unmarried, it is by choice. Those who make the assertion include as evidence the significant financial advantage, the freedom (you can buy a Porsche and not have to explain why it only seats 2 comfortably) and the almost nonexistant impact on other rewards such as sexual partners, who are purported mythically to be very available.

When one is not a member of the choir at which that preaching is aimed, the sermon becomes exceedingly hurtful.

 

[renard_ruse]

The statistic is real, though, and is derived from the 2000 census, so slightly dated but likely still accurate.

However, the discussion around the statistic asserts intent: it is asserted that if a man reaches age 45 and is unmarried, it is by choice. Those who make the assertion include as evidence the significant financial advantage, the freedom (you can buy a Porsche and not have to explain why it only seats 2 comfortably) and the almost nonexistant impact on other rewards such as sexual partners, who are purported mythically to be very available.

When one is not a member of the choir at which that preaching is aimed, the sermon becomes exceedingly hurtful.

A prostitute will pretend to be your wife if you want. The WFE experience I think they call it. She'll bitch at you and tell you to take out the trash and then refuse to have sex with you. I've heard its the biggest craze since GFE came onto the scene.

 

[atmas]

A prostitute will pretend to be your wife if you want. The WFE experience I think they call it. She'll bitch at you and tell you to take out the trash and then refuse to have sex with you. I've heard its the biggest craze since GFE came onto the scene.

I'm assuming (I haven't read the thread, if it has been mentioned) that GFE is Girlfriend For the Evening.

GFE probably involves a promise to meet her parents, get her bicycle back from her ex, and upgrade her computer to Windows 7...and then the oral sex.

 

[Ishmael]

The statistic is real, though, and is derived from the 2000 census, so slightly dated but likely still accurate.

However, the discussion around the statistic asserts intent: it is asserted that if a man reaches age 45 and is unmarried, it is by choice. Those who make the assertion include as evidence the significant financial advantage, the freedom (you can buy a Porsche and not have to explain why it only seats 2 comfortably) and the almost nonexistant impact on other rewards such as sexual partners, who are purported mythically to be very available.

When one is not a member of the choir at which that preaching is aimed, the sermon becomes exceedingly hurtful.

I questioned the statistic, merely the interpretation.

Ishmael

 

[Phelia]

First paragraph, correct reasons are guesses at best. I suppose that there is a 2-Sigma curve somewhere, but I also suppose the interpretation of the data is highly subject to question.

Paragraph two, it presumes that women have no part in the sex equation. I didn't make that presumption.

Paragraph three, No, I'm merely responding. I have no desire to marry, actually I've given up on the prospect. I haven't changed teams I've just come to realize that my own choices in women has been extraordinarily flawed. (Made some great kids though.)

Ishmael

No, a correct reason is exactly what it claims to be. Our best attempts at it are guesses, I suppose, but well-informed ones, if we are lucky. I said I wanted to know the reason, not that we could.

I've made no presumptions at all, neither from the female's perspective nor from the male's. I referenced atmas's for what it was and yours for its departure from atmas's.

Ah, okay. Well, I had no response to yours, because I think it was baseless. Regardless, I'm glad you've made the choice that's right for you. And to hear about your great kids

 

[atmas]

I questioned the statistic, merely the interpretation.

Ishmael

Did you leave out a "not' from one of these two clauses?

 

[Phelia]

I'm assuming (I haven't read the thread, if it has been mentioned) that GFE is Girlfriend For the Evening.

GFE probably involves a promise to meet her parents, get her bicycle back from her ex, and upgrade her computer to Windows 7...and then the oral sex.

That makes sense. I couldn't get past thinking that FE was "for elephants." I knew it wasn't correct, but also didn't want to delve into what the acronym actually stood for.

I can change my oil, do wonderful and dirty things to my OS, root my phone, and kill spiders, but I've concluded that I need a husband to help me weed the garden, de-vein shrimp, and explain galois theory pithily.

 

[atmas]

No, a correct reason is exactly what it claims to be. Our best attempts at it are guesses, I suppose, but well-informed ones, if we are lucky. I said I wanted to know the reason, not that we could.

I've made no presumptions at all, neither from the female's perspective nor from the male's. I referenced atmas's for what it was and yours for its departure from atmas's.

Ah, okay. Well, I had no response to yours, because I think it was baseless. Regardless, I'm glad you've made the choice that's right for you. And to hear about your great kids

The statistic mentioned, and the originial reference from which it derived, was stated in a discussion of a book released in 2005. All the rest, mention of intent etc., was the subjective part of the discussion, the article's author seeking to describe the world in which the fairly objective statistic exists.

 

[Phelia]

The statistic mentioned, and the originial reference from which it derived, was stated in a discussion of a book released in 2005. All the rest, mention of intent etc., was the subjective part of the discussion, the article's author seeking to describe the world in which the fairly objective statistic exists.

Sorry, did not mean to attribute to you directly. Not so much your idea as the idea that you introduced, which appeared to be either ignored or irreconcilably altered.

 

[atmas]

That makes sense. I couldn't get past thinking that FE was "for elephants." I knew it wasn't correct, but also didn't want to delve into what the acronym actually stood for.

I can change my oil, do wonderful and dirty things to my OS, root my phone, and kill spiders, but I've concluded that I need a husband to help me weed the garden, de-vein shrimp, and explain galois theory pithily.

And this is why I've never married, because I get my shrimp already de-veined (and cooked) and my pithiness extends only as far as Fourier Transforms. But I'm a wiz at coreduction of Ni+3 to Ni+2 and Ni+4, and my socks tend to be the same thickness, so wtf?

 

[Phelia]

And this is why I've never married, because I get my shrimp already de-veined (and cooked) and my pithiness extends only as far as Fourier Transforms. But I'm a wiz at coreduction of Ni+3 to Ni+2 and Ni+4, and my socks tend to be the same thickness, so wtf?

Wtf indeed! Have you shown them your socks?

In the meantime, please feel free to keep in practice by weeding my garden. Any by "weeding," I mean "removing the weeds from," and by "garden," I mean "that green patch in the backyard where I like to grow things." *winky face*

 

[Ishmael]

Did you leave out a "not' from one of these two clauses?

I try to deal with intelligent people.

Ishmael

 

[MFMDipper]

They should be cheaper , subsidized
by the government.

 

[Ishmael]

In short, if you're married, it is most likely you're married to a whore.

Forget the "better or worse." It's just business now, by law, so enjoy the whore you're with while you can, but get a pre-nupt if you intend to marry another whore in the future.

Ishmael

 

[lustatopia]

"As I sit here, I wonder if there is merit is what I posted. Yes there is. Because I confirmed another story from a former Sailor."

http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/DrunkenSailors.jpg​

 

[CaliGuy60]

In the absence of STD (and of course that's a big if), I certainly would. I'm one of those men turned on by my partner fucking others.

 

[HB1965]

Did you know that Sailors have sex with prostitutes when they visit foreign lands? And if you see a Sailor married to a Filipino or Tai woman, you can betcha that they married a prostitute

Sad but true.

Why does it matter if they were prostitutes? Prostitutes aren't necessarily bad people. They are just women who thought doing what they were doing was the only way to survive.

Seriously, just shut the fuck up you pretentious twat.

Thank you

Sailors go to bars to meet girls, and drink. If they want to take the girl out of the bar, they have to pay a bar fine (Hmmm. Wonder why). Make no mistake that these women are are in the sex business. And when the Sailors are out to sea, their "wives" are almost always unfaithful.

Boy that's one huge fucking stereotype if I've ever heard one.

I never said that most women in those countries were prostitutes. But of the women that marry Sailors, then most of those Sailor's wives are prostitutes. That's because Sailors frequent the towns near the military bases. If they ventured out to the other parts of the country, then I agree that they'd meet women that are not prostitutes.

They do meet woman who aren't prostitutes. If you really knew anything about life on a military base in a foreign country you would know that. A lot of the locals do other things besides run bars and work as prostitutes.

It does not bring in any mention of 45 year old men who have wanted nothing more than to be married and to be good husbands, but have been cursed by being shy, quiet, and no match for the ferocious ability of some to self-promote.

I've always felt that using the excuse that you are shy is really hiding another issue altogether. Like one is afraid of being hurt.

I've found too that the ones that don't promote themselves are always more interesting than the ones that do. Self promotion is often on par with the idea of baffling with bullshit meaning they have very little going on upstairs so they are going to showcase or make better looking what they do have.

 

[renard_ruse]

I'm assuming (I haven't read the thread, if it has been mentioned) that GFE is Girlfriend For the Evening.

GFE probably involves a promise to meet her parents, get her bicycle back from her ex, and upgrade her computer to Windows 7...

If that's the experience you've had with girlfriends, why on earth would you want a wife? Even the manliest and most assertive man will eventually be pussy whipped by a wife. If you've had that bad experience just with gf's, don't get married.