A little rant about people in general

[kara_love]

Hi guys,

So I've been writing sex stories for about six years now. Not all the time during those six years, but time to time as I got plots in my head that I had to write down. I don't mean to begin this way to boast about myself, but only to add a bit more of consideration to what I'll be whining about next.

Not once while I was on other websites had I gotten a "bad" feedback. It's understandable, since there would be no good reason to go through the process of sending an e-mail to just tell someone they suck, right? I want to clear it up that it wasn't part of my expectations to have no negative feed backs. I'm young, low on vocabulary count, love long sentences, list goes on and on. In all honesty, I prefer the efficiency of leaving a comment at Literotica over the personal customization I'm able at other websites.

But here's my "problem" with some of the people who read. I understand that what I like as a person might not be what you like as a person, but where does the attitude come from? It's not like you're a customer that I need to make money off of, nor am I the only source of entertainment at any given moment.

From just two stories that I've written at this site, I've gotten numerous comments discouraging certain acts, with tone ranging from disapproval to plain "... cliche, so leave it out." Another comment's author has apparently only looked through the tags and mentioned how it wasn't a turn-on.

Yet another cuckold wimp swinger story avoid unless you have a fetish for these types of activities.

Looked at the FIRST tags CUCKOLD then looked at the others. That was enough, just another cheating whore bitch and a weak pathetic wimp boy for husband getting sloppy seconds and creampies. No this wasn't a turn on.

John Blackman, an associate at XYZ corporation was killed when his car exploded in the parking lot of his condominium. An unidentified white woman was reported seen with him prior to the blast. A spokesman for XYZ had no comment at this time. Anyone having information concerning this woman's identity is asked to call the Metro Police.

I know I can manage the comments, and I intend to do so. I'm just taken by surprise by the sheer audacity of people, that's all.

Thank you for reading.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

In the last week I read 2 books that totally suck, yet the author is celebrated far and wide, and the books have 100s of fab reviews. How can so many people be so wrong!

 

[3113]

Pretty mild for Loving Wives

but where does the attitude come from? It's not like you're a customer that I need to make money off of, nor am I the only source of entertainment at any given moment...

Well, first, if you're writing for Loving Wives (and I'm gonna take a chance and guess these all came from a Loving Wives story), then you've entered into the lion's den of attitudes. The attitudes come from the simple fact that these readers read nothing else and they want what they want in that category. They are prepared to argue as fiercely for what they want as any fans or connoisseurs from soccer hooligans to wine snobs. And like fans of a particular sports team, half of them want what you're selling and the rest hate what you're selling and want you to know it. Putting it another way, for the readers of Loving Wives, half the fun is to comment on the story. Like shouting down the opposing team.

Didn't you read some of the stories in that category before posting there? It's renown for such comments--and the attitude that comes with them. There are stories where the comments of love/hate have gotten into arguments longer than the story itself. That's the hot kitchen you've stepped into, and complaining about such comments is a little like going into a war zone and complaining about all the guns and bombs going off.

Though, honestly, if that's the worst you've gotten, then the Loving Wives crowd must really like you. Those were pretty mild.

 

[Handley_Page]

Kara,
Sadly, it's not every reader who has the independence of mind to write a critical review, especially in stuff with "Cuckold" tags.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hi guys,

So I've been writing sex stories for about six years now. Not all the time during those six years, but time to time as I got plots in my head that I had to write down. I don't mean to begin this way to boast about myself, but only to add a bit more of consideration to what I'll be whining about next.

Not once while I was on other websites had I gotten a "bad" feedback. It's understandable, since there would be no good reason to go through the process of sending an e-mail to just tell someone they suck, right? I want to clear it up that it wasn't part of my expectations to have no negative feed backs. I'm young, low on vocabulary count, love long sentences, list goes on and on. In all honesty, I prefer the efficiency of leaving a comment at Literotica over the personal customization I'm able at other websites.

But here's my "problem" with some of the people who read. I understand that what I like as a person might not be what you like as a person, but where does the attitude come from? It's not like you're a customer that I need to make money off of, nor am I the only source of entertainment at any given moment.

From just two stories that I've written at this site, I've gotten numerous comments discouraging certain acts, with tone ranging from disapproval to plain "... cliche, so leave it out." Another comment's author has apparently only looked through the tags and mentioned how it wasn't a turn-on.







I know I can manage the comments, and I intend to do so. I'm just taken by surprise by the sheer audacity of people, that's all.

Thank you for reading.

I will also chime in and mention you debuted in Loving wives it is the most venemous category on Lit. Mostly because it is populated by people who were cheated upon at some point and divided into "factions" of pro and anti cheating spouses.

As for the negatice comments themselves, because this is a free site and one that allows anonymous comments that you cannot respond to you will get a ton of these. These are the people who are bitter in life about pretty much everything and just enjoy lashing out at people with no repercussions.

I have been here a year and a half and wrote in the incest categorie and also mix in some BDSM I have been called a sick fuck, a pedophile (the only comment that annoys me as the stories are 18) asked is I molest my kids and also told that I am the worst writer ever!

Take it for what it is worth; Nothing!! Laugh it off and move on. At this point I consider over the top negative feedback a badge of honor. There is a best worst feedback thread in the story feedback section go read through and see what others have gone through and how they deal with it.

 

[lovecraft68]

In the last week I read 2 books that totally suck, yet the author is celebrated far and wide, and the books have 100s of fab reviews. How can so many people be so wrong!

Maybe your just harder to please than the average Lemming there JB

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Maybe your just harder to please than the average Lemming there JB

True. Only 15% of people know a good cup of coffee when they drink it. And that percentage likely holds for everything else.

 

[lovecraft68]

True. Only 15% of people know a good cup of coffee when they drink it. And that percentage likely holds for everything else.

Whenever something sucks royally, be it a book or movie, yet people rave about it I always come back to the scene in Huck Finn.

The part where they are with the traveling "show" where the guys just parade around like idiots. The show sucked but no one wanted to admit they paid and had gotten duped so they raved about it.

I also think that sometimes when something is over hyped and a person thinks it sucks the person sometiems questions themselves. "Maybe its me"

Class a sign of a lemming if you did not like it you did not like it, it's not you, because it is you being you not a follower.

Case in point that movie a few years ago "No country for old men." Rave reviews out the ass. The wife and I watch it and at the end look at each other like "What did I miss?" That thing sucked!

 

[3113]

Public Taste, by and large, isn't always good

The part where they are with the traveling "show" where the guys just parade around like idiots. The show sucked but no one wanted to admit they paid and had gotten duped so they raved about it.

I also think that sometimes when something is over hyped and a person thinks it sucks the person sometiems questions themselves. "Maybe its me"

With all due respect to Twain, although the "Emperor-has-no-clothes" syndrome very much exists, and plenty of people will do things, and see things because they've joined the lemmings and they're sure the lemmings must be right...This kinda ignores the conclusion that people also have sucky taste. On average, and all too clearly, they do. Do you know what the two most famous Shakespeare plays were in Shakespeare's time? Hamlet (very good we all say, right?) and....Pericles, Prince of Tyre.

Have you ever seen Pericles? It's not Titus Andronicus awful, but there's a reason it's hardly ever performed now. Yet in it's day, playgoers ranked it right up there with Hamlet. You say you didn't get what everyone was raving about in "Country for Old Men"--fair enough. The "No Clothes" effect may well be proven there. But I don't think that was the case for "Titanic" one of the most popular movies of all times...and one of the most dreadful in story and acting, with only production values for a critic to rave about. That's not an "Emperor has no clothes" situation. That was a crowd pleaser. Enough so that people didn't just go to see it because everyone said they had to see it...they went to see it again and again.

That, I'm afraid, is often the public's taste, plain and simple. And it was likely the reason why Miss Allcott, with her interminable series of "Little Women" books, was selling as well if not better than Twain during their lifetimes. "The Emperor has no clothes" can be the answer why...but not always. More often than not, the zeitgeist just favors bad taste over good.

 

[lovecraft68]

With all due respect to Twain, although the "Emperor-has-no-clothes" syndrome very much exists, and plenty of people will do things, and see things because they've joined the lemmings and they're sure the lemmings must be right...This kinda ignores the conclusion that people also have sucky taste. On average, and all too clearly, they do. Do you know what the two most famous Shakespeare plays were in Shakespeare's time? Hamlet (very good we all say, right?) and....Pericles, Prince of Tyre.

Have you ever seen Pericles? It's not Titus Andronicus awful, but there's a reason it's hardly ever performed now. Yet in it's day, playgoers ranked it right up there with Hamlet. You say you didn't get what everyone was raving about in "Country for Old Men"--fair enough. The "No Clothes" effect may well be proven there. But I don't think that was the case for "Titanic" one of the most popular movies of all times...and one of the most dreadful in story and acting, with only production values for a critic to rave about. That's not an "Emperor has no clothes" situation. That was a crowd pleaser. Enough so that people didn't just go to see it because everyone said they had to see it...they went to see it again and again.

That, I'm afraid, is often the public's taste, plain and simple. And it was likely the reason why Miss Allcott, with her interminable series of "Little Women" books, was selling as well if not better than Twain during their lifetimes. "The Emperor has no clothes" can be the answer why...but not always. More often than not, the zeitgeist just favors bad taste over good.

I agree that there is plenty of room for sucky taste. Thing is there is a domino effect as well. A well known critic gives a film 5 stars the lesser ones sometimes fear to disagree.

Also is "name recognition" Stephen King writes about shitting in his hat and it's a best seller with the critics fighting over themselves to give him the review equivalent of a blow job.

Anne Rice same thing. Interview got her going but Ramses the Damned ad Memnoch the devil as well as the Body thief were trash. (I thought interview was as well but that to me is my taste the overwhelming majority disagrees) Her Witches series was garbage as well but people kept buying and reading and praising her.

Still boils down to herd mentality. I'm a big horror buff but the majority of stuff King has turned out since way back to Pet Sematary has been drivel.

 

[Stella_Omega]

unfortunately, lit's "loving wives" category is a pig sty and it's chock full of pigs. it's just the way that section evolved, men who come there for the purpose of feeding their own rage.

You might post a few times in the fetish and sexuality forum, people there look for loving cuckold stories all the time

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

LOVEBOAT

To be fair & balanced, like Fox News, musicians can read the same score and create sublime or sucky performances from the same information. Its quite stunning how it happens. So I suppose readers do the same, depending on what they bring to the book.

If youre sensitive and selective enough you catch all the noise and dissonace; if youre tone-deaf and blind in one eye you may miss many of the inherent faults, and enjoy your shit sandwich.

 

[lovecraft68]

LOVEBOAT

To be fair & balanced, like Fox News, musicians can read the same score and create sublime or sucky performances from the same information. Its quite stunning how it happens. So I suppose readers do the same, depending on what they bring to the book.

If youre sensitive and selective enough you catch all the noise and dissonace; if youre tone-deaf and blind in one eye you may miss many of the inherent faults, and enjoy your shit sandwich.

Hey who told you I was blind in my left eye? Cause really I am. That's how I stayed with the ex wife so long she always stayed on that side of me!

 

[lovecraft68]

unfortunately, lit's "loving wives" category is a pig sty and it's chock full of pigs. it's just the way that section evolved, men who come there for the purpose of feeding their own rage.

You might post a few times in the fetish and sexuality forum, people there look for loving cuckold stories all the time

But if you put cuckold in the tag lines won't the powers that be bump the story over to loving wives anyway?

 

[Boxlicker101]

But if you put cuckold in the tag lines won't the powers that be bump the story over to loving wives anyway?

They probably will, unless it's about celebrities or features gay or lesbian sex. Or is classified as a novel, which would mean very skimpy readership but complimentary voting and feedback.

 

[Stella_Omega]

But if you put cuckold in the tag lines won't the powers that be bump the story over to loving wives anyway?

fetish&sexuality is a forum, not a story cat...

 

[lovecraft68]

fetish&sexuality is a forum, not a story cat...

So you can post actual stories in the forums? They don't care? I know here and there people have complained about entire stories pasted into the feedback section.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hey who told you I was blind in my left eye? Cause really I am. That's how I stayed with the ex wife so long she always stayed on that side of me!

It could be worse, you could be ROB. I'm told he has a tattoo on his ass that says, KILROY WAS HERE.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

I agree that there is plenty of room for sucky taste. Thing is there is a domino effect as well. A well known critic gives a film 5 stars the lesser ones sometimes fear to disagree.

Also is "name recognition" Stephen King writes about shitting in his hat and it's a best seller with the critics fighting over themselves to give him the review equivalent of a blow job.

Anne Rice same thing. Interview got her going but Ramses the Damned ad Memnoch the devil as well as the Body thief were trash. (I thought interview was as well but that to me is my taste the overwhelming majority disagrees) Her Witches series was garbage as well but people kept buying and reading and praising her.

Still boils down to herd mentality. I'm a big horror buff but the majority of stuff King has turned out since way back to Pet Sematary has been drivel.

I can't really read Anne Rice; only tried a few times, but her writing style doesn't do it for me. I'm not sure why. I can't say I've read so much as an eighth of a novel by her total; counting the beginnings of about 4 of her books and adding them all together. It isn't her ideas that always turned me off, but her writing itself.

King, on a side note, has done some of his best work since Pet Sematary. The Dark Tower books were mostly written after then, and his two best works other than those were Bag of Bones and Lisey's Story, both of which were not so long ago. Just my opinion, but still... On a side note to this side note; comparing any writing to some of King's early work is like looking expecting to find the next Freddy Mercury on American Idol. It's not the kinda talent you can fairly match people (even an older King) up with and expect to be impressed.

King's turning into the Aerosmith of writing. I know some people who feel the band hasn't done much worth listening to the early eighties. Others aren't even interested in the older stuff, but like the newer stuff. Maybe it comes down to generational influence.

In regards to the actual topic of the thread (finally) if you intend to post here, expect people to bitch, whine and chastise. It's what many readers here do. The key is remembering the truth of the matter: The entire reason you're writing is to impress that particular reader. I mean, not really, but that particular reader always seems to think so, and remind you when you've lost sight of the objective. It won't change, and you can't really do much about it.

Q_C

 

[lovecraft68]

I can't really read Anne Rice; only tried a few times, but her writing style doesn't do it for me. I'm not sure why. I can't say I've read so much as an eighth of a novel by her total; counting the beginnings of about 4 of her books and adding them all together. It isn't her ideas that always turned me off, but her writing itself.

King, on a side note, has done some of his best work since Pet Sematary. The Dark Tower books were mostly written after then, and his two best works other than those were Bag of Bones and Lisey's Story, both of which were not so long ago. Just my opinion, but still... On a side note to this side note; comparing any writing to some of King's early work is like looking expecting to find the next Freddy Mercury on American Idol. It's not the kinda talent you can fairly match people (even an older King) up with and expect to be impressed.

King's turning into the Aerosmith of writing. I know some people who feel the band hasn't done much worth listening to the early eighties. Others aren't even interested in the older stuff, but like the newer stuff. Maybe it comes down to generational influence.

In regards to the actual topic of the thread (finally) if you intend to post here, expect people to bitch, whine and chastise. It's what many readers here do. The key is remembering the truth of the matter: The entire reason you're writing is to impress that particular reader. I mean, not really, but that particular reader always seems to think so, and remind you when you've lost sight of the objective. It won't change, and you can't really do much about it.

Q_C

Dark Tower was good, but almost a different Genre. I'm talking about things like Insomnia (which was the cure for that ailment) those two godawful tie togethers Desperation and the Regulators. that extended version of the Stand which only proved why it had been cut in the first place and some other flops. Thing is once to me someone has dropped several bombs in a row I stop buying or even borrowing so maybe he has bounced somewhat.

The last one I tried was Black House the sequel to The Talisman and co written with Peter Straub. King wrote the first part and I couldn't get through it. 100+ pages in and he was still describing the damn town.

With Rioce for me it is not style but content. Rice is the Matriarch of the whiny wimpy "human" vampire. In the series Lestat weeps more than Jesus. Just sickening.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Now on the other hand...

I to write stories in the Loving Wives category and I would be offended if I didn't get at least one comment about how the...

a) story sucked - no other comment
b) just another cuck story
c) just another wimpy husband
d) the marriage is over
e) I hope she catches AIDs and dies a slow horrible death
f) He should throw her to the curb - naked
g) etc.

If you go check out the comments on my LW stories you might not feel so bad.

I love those comment, they make me laugh and let me know I have struck a cord with the reader.

I go back and read those comments just for laughs.

 

[D_Lynn]

I know how you feel...

But here's my "problem" with some of the people who read. I understand that what I like as a person might not be what you like as a person, but where does the attitude come from? It's not like you're a customer that I need to make money off of, nor am I the only source of entertainment at any given moment.

From just two stories that I've written at this site, I've gotten numerous comments discouraging certain acts, with tone ranging from disapproval to plain "... cliche, so leave it out." Another comment's author has apparently only looked through the tags and mentioned how it wasn't a turn-on.

My first submission (just this past May) was in the Non-Consent/Reluctance category. I got blasted in the comment section with anti-rape rantings. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why someone sensitive to non-consent would read in that category. Unless, of course, it was to use that as a forum for their sanctimonious drivel.

These comments weren't about my story and they became personal attacks; stating that I should be ashamed of myself, and that I was a complete disgrace to my sex. I hate to admit it; it hurt at first. A friend of mine talked me off the cliff, though, and I'm way over it now.

You know what they say: That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
(Or something like that.)

 

[sr71plt]

My first submission (just this past May) was in the Non-Consent/Reluctance category. I got blasted in the comment section with anti-rape rantings. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why someone sensitive to non-consent would read in that category. Unless, of course, it was to use that as a forum for their sanctimonious drivel.

They purposely look for stories in categories they don't approve of. That's why they objected to a story that was clearly posted to the correct category. Try posting to the Gay Male category for a while and become acquainted with a steady morning after series of anti-gay zappers.

After a while you just hone in on the folks who follow your stories because they like that category and the way you write, and you just blow raspberries at those spending their energy to keep your ratings down.

 

[lovecraft68]

They purposely look for stories in categories they don't approve of. That's why they objected to a story that was clearly posted to the correct category. Try posting to the Gay Male category for a while and become acquainted with a steady morning after series of anti-gay zappers.

After a while you just hone in on the folks who follow your stories because they like that category and the way you write, and you just blow raspberries at those spending their energy to keep your ratings down.

Ditto with incest. They just go up and down the new stories that day and hit them all. I even have it down to knowing that between 12-12:30 on a day my story is new I get three 1 bombs. guess they are surfing at lunch.