Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

[islandman]

I was saying a while ago he's a one term President but that was before putting on eye on the crop of losers the Republican party has to offer. As it stands right now I really think we're in a no-win situation. We should really find a way to elect the Dos Equis guy.

What do you mean "find a way"? He's a New Yorker by birth!

 

[KRCummings]

What do you mean "find a way"? He's a New Yorker by birth!

I only know that he lives vicariously through himself.

 

[xperia2995]

Americans are growing more dissatisfied with President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and say it will be hard to vote to re-elect him without seeing significant progress over the next year and a half.

By a margin of 61 percent to 37 percent, a Bloomberg National Poll conducted June 17-20 shows Americans say they believe that Obama will have had his chance to make the economy “substantially better” by the end of 2012.
Only 30 percent of respondents said they are certain to vote for the president and 36 percent said they definitely won’t. Among likely independent voters, only 23 percent said they will back his re-election, while 36 percent said they definitely will look for another candidate.

“As far as the economy goes, I don’t see that he has delivered on the change that he promised,” said Sharon Ortiz, a 38-year-old independent voter from Hampton, Virginia, who supported Obama in 2008. “The jobs that he promised -- I haven’t seen it.”

At the same time, Americans are skeptical that Republican control of the White House and Congress will be a better prescription for their economic well being. Sixty percent said that any Republican candidate will need to move so far to the right on fiscal and social issues to win their party’s nomination that it will be very hard to back the nominee.

Voter Intensity
Even so, the intensity among respondents who strongly agreed about judging Obama on his record of job creation was higher -- 45 percent versus 33 percent -- than those worried about a Republican nominee pushed to the right.
With unemployment and jobs ranking as the most important issue facing the country and lawmakers mired in debates to cut the nation’s long-term debt, the poll’s findings underscore a central challenge for Obama’s re-election team: making the 2012 campaign a choice between competing visions for the country’s future rather than a referendum on his job performance.
“So far Obama’s doing an OK job, not as great as I was hoping for,” said Pam Kaltenbach, 62, a Democratic voter from Chillicothe, Ohio, who supported Republican presidential candidate John McCain in 2008. “But now the Republicans don’t understand the working man. They don’t tax the rich more, they just want to take away the programs that are needed by the middle class.”

Medicare Worries
In the poll, 49 percent of respondents said they’re worried about Republicans gaining control of the White House and Congress and following through on pledges to slash funding for benefit programs like Medicare and Medicaid, outnumbering the 40 percent who said they are concerned about another term for Obama and a continuation of current spending policies. Among independents, 47 percent said they are worried about a Republican takeover compared with 37 percent who are concerned about maintaining the status quo.

“I still want them to cut the deficit and debt, but it’s been growing for years,” said Mark Rawls, 44, an independent voter from Orlando, Florida. “If you cut the deficit now, you might cut the legs of people who are trying to get jobs and on Medicare.”

The poll of 1,000 adults was conducted by Selzer & Co., a Des Moines, Iowa-based firm. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

Reagan Ratings
Obama’s ratings dip is reminiscent of former President Ronald Reagan’s early years in office when he was struggling to manage a slowing economy. Seventeen months before Election Day, Reagan’s presidential approval rating was 43 percent -- and he won a second term in a landslide. Obama’s overall job approval stands at 49 percent, with 44 percent disapproving.

The only performance category in which Obama’s approval ratings were higher than his disapproval ratings was dealing with terrorism. Less than two months after the killing of al- Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, 69 percent of Americans -- including 51 percent of Republicans -- said they approved of his performance on terrorism, while 27 percent didn’t.

With the president poised to announce his plans for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, the poll found that 53 percent of Americans support a gradual pullout over the next couple years compared to 30 percent who want them to come home immediately.

It’s the Economy
Ultimately, the survey showed, Obama’s presidential campaign will hinge on whether the economy improves rather than national security issues.
Recent data shows the recovery losing steam and, with a jobless rate of 9.1 percent, the president has few fiscal options to stimulate the economy. Lawmakers are debating how to cut the nation’s long-term deficits and raise the $14.3 trillion debt-ceiling.

Vice President Joe Biden is leading talks with congressional leaders to reach a deal on reducing the federal- debt ahead of an Aug. 2 deadline, when the Treasury Department projects the government risks defaulting on its obligations -- which Obama has warned would be “disastrous.”

Republicans are insisting on trillions of dollars in savings and no tax increases in exchange for a vote to increase the debt ceiling. Democrats have refused to allow major cuts to the Medicare government health insurance program for the elderly, which is contributing to the debt.

Debt Default
Americans are split, 45 percent to 46 percent, on whether Republicans should hold out for more spending cuts even if the delay leads the government to default on its obligations. Only 19 percent say such an outcome would be catastrophic, suggesting such warnings from lawmakers, economists and Wall Street executives aren’t resonating with the public. Still, 52 percent of Americans say a default would be a serious problem.

“Maybe I don’t really understand what all that means if the U.S. defaults, but I do know the other route and I do know what that means,” said Jerry Reynolds, 66, a Democratic voter from Apache Junction, Arizona, who won’t vote again for Obama. “They need to do more on this budget, they need to quit spending money on these wars that are not doing us any good. It’s costing us people and its costing us money.”

By a slight margin, Republicans would be held more accountable than Obama should the financial markets fall as a result of a failure to raise the debt ceiling. Forty-four percent said they would fault Republicans for digging in their heels on spending cuts, while 41 percent would blame Obama for resisting their demands.

Economy Performance Ratings
Obama’s performance ratings drop significantly when the focus turns to his management of the economy, jobs and deficits. By a margin of 61 percent to 32 percent, Americans disapprove of the job Obama is doing to tackle the budget deficit. Fifty-seven percent of respondents disapproved of his efforts to create jobs and overall 57 percent disapproved of his handling of the economy.
“I voted for him in 2008 because of the financial crisis, the housing crisis and he was new and fresh and it seemed like he had energy and ideas to make headway in this,” said Rawls. “He needs to bring the unemployment numbers down.”

Obama needs to focus on the Internal matters rather than looking after other countries.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Voters may prefer a Numnutz Obama to a GOP trifecta of thieves in Washington. Thats where my head is; if the GOP cant field anyone with brains & balls & backbone leave Obama in the game to keep the GOP honest.

There is no honesty left in the GOP. It's being displayed that they are scum the only question is if they have always been and always will be scum or if this is Obama causing some crazy in them.

 

[islandman]

There is no honesty left in the GOP. It's being displayed that they are scum the only question is if they have always been and always will be scum or if this is Obama causing some crazy in them.

Don't kid yourself, a lot of this is also applicable to the Democratic party. While the GOP may be viewed as the party of all that is evil, the Democratic party may be viewed as the party of broken promises and failed execution.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Don't kid yourself, a lot of this is also applicable to the Democratic party. While the GOP may be viewed as the party of all that is evil, the Democratic party may be viewed as the party of broken promises and failed execution.

It's one game. The brands and language are different, but the game is the same.

 

[islandman]

It's one game. The brands and language are different, but the game is the same.

If by that you mean that both parties together don't amount to much, then I agree with your assessment.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

If by that you mean that both parties together don't amount to much, then I agree with your assessment.

I mean it's just a sport. None of them are true believers; if they were, they would never get past their first election campaign. "The Republicans lie!" is as dumb a statement as "the Democrats lie." Of COURSE they lie--the whole game is convincing you that you agee with something you don't, or don't care about it. Whoever lies and cheats better, wins. Collectively, that group of liars and cheaters is our government. The D and R thing is just the team they play for. It's meaningless.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

There is no honesty left in the GOP. It's being displayed that they are scum the only question is if they have always been and always will be scum or if this is Obama causing some crazy in them.

We have 2 parties...AL CAPONE and BUGSY MORAN. Washington is Chicago and these guys battle for control of the cops and money. Neither of them makes room for you at the table or in the lifeboat. They dont want you, they want your money.

Once you understand the game it all makes sense.

 

[islandman]

I mean it's just a sport. None of them are true believers; if they were, they would never get past their first election campaign. "The Republicans lie!" is as dumb a statement as "the Democrats lie." Of COURSE they lie--the whole game is convincing you that you agee with something you don't, or don't care about it. Whoever lies and cheats better, wins. Collectively, that group of liars and cheaters is our government. The D and R thing is just the team they play for. It's meaningless.

Taking your analogy to its logical conclusion, I am willing to vote for whichever team has the hottest cheerleaders.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Don't kid yourself, a lot of this is also applicable to the Democratic party. While the GOP may be viewed as the party of all that is evil, the Democratic party may be viewed as the party of broken promises and failed execution.

Some is. I don't see any of the same level of deception on the part of the democrats and honestly if you see the two parties as the same do America a favor. Stop voting and stop talking politics. You're actively poisoning the well and we can't live like this.

 

[islandman]

Some is. I don't see any of the same level of deception on the part of the democrats and honestly if you see the two parties as the same do America a favor. Stop voting and stop talking politics. You're actively poisoning the well and we can't live like this.

If you're of the opinion that the well of democracy contains only two parties, then I posit that it is you who has corrupted it. In other words, take the blinders off and we can all go back to expecting our leaders to do better.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Taking your analogy to its logical conclusion, I am willing to vote for whichever team has the hottest cheerleaders.

Admirable. I go the other way: I don't give either team my vote, because I think that until the league expands, it is inherently (and necessarily) corrupt.

 

[islandman]

Admirable. I go the other way: I don't give either team my vote, because I think that until the league expands, it is inherently (and necessarily) corrupt.

That's essentially what I said to Sean Renaud in my prior post.

Plus, I actually meant cheerleaders, the the pom-poms kind.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If you're of the opinion that the well of democracy contains only two parties, then I posit that it is you who has corrupted it. In other words, take the blinders off and we can all go back to expecting our leaders to do better.

Stop expecting our leaders to do better. Or at least redefine better as effective. I would claim that no small part of our problem is that what a man is tweeting or if he's fucking prostitutes has been linked to his ability to govern wisely. I don't care if the president has fucked every cheer leader on the planet so long as he can do his job.

We have two parties because we are fools and like it this way. We've seen how run offs work and how other voting systems work and we stick with this because we prefer it this way.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Americans are growing more dissatisfied with President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and say it will be hard to vote to re-elect him without seeing significant progress over the next year and a half...

As I expected, this is an unattributed copy and paste job. I knew miles could not put so many sentences together.

Oh, and BTW,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3294346605_2f2e7097ee.jpg

 

[KRCummings]

As I expected, this is an unattributed copy and paste job. I knew miles could not put so many sentences together.

Oh, and BTW,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3294346605_2f2e7097ee.jpg

Still scared of the big bad black people, ya fucking racist scumbag pile of dog shit?

 

[islandman]

Stop expecting our leaders to do better. Or at least redefine better as effective. I would claim that no small part of our problem is that what a man is tweeting or if he's fucking prostitutes has been linked to his ability to govern wisely. I don't care if the president has fucked every cheer leader on the planet so long as he can do his job.

We have two parties because we are fools and like it this way. We've seen how run offs work and how other voting systems work and we stick with this because we prefer it this way.

The absurdity of your statement in bold is matched only by the incongruity inherent in your defense of democracy while simultaneously advocating that a voter who does not share your opinion should "stop voting and stop talking politics."

 

[Sean Renaud]

The absurdity of your statement in bold is matched only by the incongruity inherent in your defense of democracy while simultaneously advocating that a voter who does not share your opinion should "stop voting and stop talking politics."

Nope. We need to have leaders who are good at their jobs. That shouldn't be something we debate. If you disagree with me you're only defense is that we want bad people leading us and I've read enough of you to know you're too inteligent to believe that we want idiots in charge.

So please tell me why Wiener (or the Republicans with worse charges) should be dismissed based on their behavior instead of their credentials? If your argument is they are unqualified that's one thing but tell me how sexting has anything to do with balancing a budget or making sound decisions on who to go to war with?

 

[Luk]

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So please tell me why Wiener (or the Republicans with worse charges) should be dismissed based on their behavior instead of their credentials? If your argument is they are unqualified that's one thing but tell me how sexting has anything to do with balancing a budget or making sound decisions on who to go to war with?

He makes bad decisions. What makes you think he would make good decisions about balancing the budget or going to war when he thinks it's a good idea to send cock shots to porn stars and (possibly) underage women? While married.

 

[islandman]

Nope. We need to have leaders who are good at their jobs. That shouldn't be something we debate. If you disagree with me you're only defense is that we want bad people leading us and I've read enough of you to know you're too inteligent to believe that we want idiots in charge.

So please tell me why Wiener (or the Republicans with worse charges) should be dismissed based on their behavior instead of their credentials? If your argument is they are unqualified that's one thing but tell me how sexting has anything to do with balancing a budget or making sound decisions on who to go to war with?

What? I can only assume you mis-read what I wrote previously.

Further, "good at their job" is subjective. I prefer individuals with track record of progressive success. That's tangible.

Finally, what's with all the Weiner love? How is he an example of my belief that our leaders should do better? I speak to job performance and not the whatever doesn't impact their ability to lead. You seem to be focused on their bedroom, their sexting and their penises.

 

[unregistered]

 

[busybody..]

he can beat Obama

 

[unregistered]

 

[islandman]

Guru enough not to have invested my credibility in the loser you voted for, pilgrim.

Must be nice to have gotten everything right in life, v-man. Must be real nice.