No charges: 11-Year-Old Boy STRIPPED NAKED By 8th Grade Girls

[MarlowBunny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLh-yHcgdJA

Two 8th grade girls held an 11 year old boy by his neck and legs. They stripped him naked as he cried for his mother. A third girl filled the entire event via cell phone. The girls posted video of the assault and exposure on YouTube where it remained for more than 24 hours.


No charges have been filed. Even posting video of a naked 11 year old boy apparently has no consequences and is not child pornography. Police called it a "prank" twice in the police report. Police told the mother of the victim that they weren't sure if any crime had been committed.

If the genders were reversed and boys forcefully stripped an 11 year old girl then posted the video on YouTube, the boys would be in jail and registered as sex offenders.

 

[MarlowBunny]

I have very mixed feelings. If not for the video and YouTube, the same might have happened in my youth. If it had happened to me, I would have been humiliated, but I would probably be playing with the same girls by the end of summer. I don't think it would have traumatized me forever. The video aspect adds dramatically to the humiliation.

It's the injustice of the double standard that infuriates me most.

 

[sr71plt]

I sort of doubt this is the whole story--or the end of it.

From Fox News?

 

[MarlowBunny]

The lack of empathy firieghtens me. Couldn't they put themselves in his place. How would they have liked it when they were 11. Maybe they were carried away by events in the moment, but then to post the video in cold blood after the event...

 

[MarlowBunny]

It becomes bullying and wicked humiliation instead of kids playing.
The poor boy has to face other students in school. He may be self concious about being seen naked, but I can tell you - being dominated by the girls while crying for mommy will be wworse. The other boys and many girls will treat him badly for being weak and powerless (the worst thing for a boy)
2:39 PMGirls, particularly young girls, are attracted to boys who are socially and physically powerful. What is this boy going to face in 3 years when rumors if not memory socially emasculate him?

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, yes, it's dumb. Dumb enough to be fixed. Don't give yourself a stroke over it. Give it, like, ten minutes to straighten itself out. Like maybe some reputable news agency noting that Fox was embellishing and/or doing its usual half-assed grossly partisan, tailored reporting.

 

[Stella_Omega]

call and complain. Even better, ask your friends to all and complain as well.

The reason authorities are more sensitive to gay bullying, for instance, is because a whole lot of folk got up on their hind legs and said it was NOT acceptable. The same applies here.

You can create a petition at sites like http://www.avaaz.org/en/index.php

and http://change.org

and others-- I'll find more of them for you if you wish-- and you'd be astounded, I know, to hear how effective this technique can be.

 

[Lady Reiha]

If the genders were reversed and boys forcefully stripped an 11 year old girl then posted the video on YouTube, the boys would be in jail and registered as sex offenders.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2ep66uv.jpg

No offense, but you don't know that. Don't make such assumptions.

 

[sr71plt]

[No offense, but you don't know that. Don't make such assumptions.

No, I think he's quite right about that. If this were eighth-grade boys doing this to an eleven-year-old girl, the boys would be in a slammer within ten minutes of anyone finding it out. I don't have the least bit of doubt about that.

 

[MarlowBunny]

Yes, yes, it's dumb. Dumb enough to be fixed. Don't give yourself a stroke over it. Give it, like, ten minutes to straighten itself out. Like maybe some reputable news agency noting that Fox was embellishing and/or doing its usual half-assed grossly partisan, tailored reporting.

Biased much yourself? This was the local television news report. This was not the evil Fox News cable network. What part of the video do you think was inaccurate? What part of the interview with the mother of the victim was inaccurate?

 

[sr71plt]

Biased much yourself? This was the local television news report. This was not the evil Fox News cable network. What part of the video do you think was inaccurate? What part of the interview with the mother of the victim was inaccurate?

No, I am a journalist. It's not biased if it's been time and again tested out as true, sport.

Had that stroke yet? Must be a slow day around your computer room, I guess.

 

[Handley_Page]

How old is a child at 8th grade?. The report was somewhat illogical in that it quote the boy's age in years, but assigned the girls to "8th grade". I presume this puts them older than the boy.

I agree with the statement that had it been a girl stripped and boys doing it, they'd have been in real trouble and the girl's parents in orbit over it. If the boy decides later to extract some form of revenge, can we blame him ?

I wonder how much support or "trauma help" the lad is going to get.
Such events can fester in the mind for a Very Long Time.

 

[Pure]

it's very odd that the cops cannot figure what the crime is: it's assault according to many jurisdictions, e.g. in Canada.

as the attorney interviewed stated, 'misdemeanor battery' is a clear possibility. (some jurisdictions make assault only include a 'threat' and call the physical violence, 'battery.')

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the 'prank' label is irrelevant, surely. if, as a 'prank' i take your wallet and run off with it, it's robbery *even* if it's a prank!

 

[MarlowBunny]

How old is a child at 8th grade?. The report was somewhat illogical in that it quote the boy's age in years, but assigned the girls to "8th grade". I presume this puts them older than the boy.

I agree with the statement that had it been a girl stripped and boys doing it, they'd have been in real trouble and the girl's parents in orbit over it. If the boy decides later to extract some form of revenge, can we blame him ?

I wonder how much support or "trauma help" the lad is going to get.
Such events can fester in the mind for a Very Long Time.

The boy is a 5th grader and the girls 8th graders. They are roughly 3 years older than the boy.

 

[masterdrakin]

How old is a child at 8th grade?. The report was somewhat illogical in that it quote the boy's age in years, but assigned the girls to "8th grade". I presume this puts them older than the boy.

I agree with the statement that had it been a girl stripped and boys doing it, they'd have been in real trouble and the girl's parents in orbit over it. If the boy decides later to extract some form of revenge, can we blame him ?

I wonder how much support or "trauma help" the lad is going to get.
Such events can fester in the mind for a Very Long Time.

Average age of a 8th grader 15 to 16 as a parent that just had my son finish eight grade I would know. As for the roles reversed yea no doubt them boys would be under the jail with a slew of charges against them and the girl catered to on hand and foot with all sorts of therapist offering to help her with a big deal about it at the school. Yep that double standard rules again. Those girls knew what they were doing and knew it was wrong bit still done it anyway even recorded and posted it. There used to the rule bending to them and they get away with it. I think its about time both side learn it applies to them and no more free rides.

 

[masterdrakin]

it's very odd that the cops cannot figure what the crime is: it's assault according to many jurisdictions, e.g. in Canada.

as the attorney interviewed stated, 'misdemeanor battery' is a clear possibility. (some jurisdictions make assault only include a 'threat' and call the physical violence, 'battery.')

===
the 'prank' label is irrelevant, surely. if, as a 'prank' i take your wallet and run off with it, it's robbery *even* if it's a prank!

Just makes you wonder which high ranking city official or other type of office and or cops daughter was in the bunch. Which would explain why there just calling it a prank and can't find. A crime cause it would hurt there position

 

[MarlowBunny]

it's very odd that the cops cannot figure what the crime is: it's assault according to many jurisdictions, e.g. in Canada.

as the attorney interviewed stated, 'misdemeanor battery' is a clear possibility. (some jurisdictions make assault only include a 'threat' and call the physical violence, 'battery.')

===
the 'prank' label is irrelevant, surely. if, as a 'prank' i take your wallet and run off with it, it's robbery *even* if it's a prank!

The assault itself is one thing.

Again, It’s the lack of empathy frightens me. Couldn't they put themselves in his place. How would they have liked it when they were 11.

Maybe they were carried away by events in the moment, but <b>then to post the video in cold blood after the event.</b>

It becomes wicked humiliation instead of kids playing.
The poor boy has to face other students in school. He may be self conscious about being seen naked, but I can tell you - being dominated by the girls while crying for mommy will be worse. The other boys and many girls will treat him badly for being weak and powerless (the worst thing for a boy). Many of his classmates will have seen the video or heard about it. His mother was on TV, so there will be no anonymity.

Girls, particularly young girls, are attracted to boys who are socially and physically powerful. What is this boy going to face in 3 years when rumors if not memory socially emasculate him? How is this not just as bad or worse as an 11 year old girl feeling violated - like she has no modesty - with other students ridiculing her lack of sexual development or calling her a slut with victim blaming?

 

[MarlowBunny]

Here is a lovely reaction:

"Damn straight this little Liberace got fucking owned." "11 year old nancy boy cries like a baby" "the gayification of america"

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ra...-when-2-girls-try-to-have-threesome-with-him/

 

[MarlowBunny]

Mother explains her response

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Flori...nd-viewers-weigh-in-on-bullying-of-Lee-Co-boy

 

[R. Richard]

It amazes me that apparently not one of you has seen the obvious.

Two (presumably) larger, stronger individuals have physically forced themselves on another individual. The reason behind the forcing was not financial gain, or even demonstraton of the victim's racial/religious/national origin or whatever status, it was simply to humiliate the victim.

The attackers are young members of a system. They are suposedly being trained to operate within said system. If those who run the system are unaware of the defects of the attackers (as shown by school grades,) then the system is obviously broken and badly needs fixing.

I'm a professional systems analyst. I can solve such broken systems problems. Let me elucidate. If empowered, I would get a court order, requiring the scumbags, teachers and students within the existing system to serve an (extra) hour each day, for a school year, in a class designed exculsively to teach the people that use of physical force to humiliate another person will not be tolerated. I would also release the names of the two who created the need for said class.

Anyone familiar with the normal USA environment will see that my solution will solve the problem in such fashion that the problem will not again occur. (I'm a professional systems analyst, the effects of my solutions on the objects within systems is no concern of mine.)

 

[Stella_Omega]

amazing powers of analysis R., incredible!

I bet no one else has thought of this solution ever, or tried to mandate education against hate crimes, (unsuccessfully needless to say) or begun campaigns like "it gets better" and pressured unwilling school districts to implement them.

Kudos to you.

 

[sr71plt]

It amazes me that apparently not one of you has seen the obvious.

You deduced this how? Because not everyone chose to get all hot and bothered out of the gate on this report and posting their indignation on a porn board?

 

[Tyro999]

Erm. Born 9/3/1943, I was 6 when I entered 1st Grade. Simple extension will give you, 2nd - 7, 3rd - 8, 4th - 9, 5th -10, 6th - 11, 7th - 12, 8th - 13, 9th - 14, 10th - 15, 11th - 16, 12th - 17.

Because most of my classmates starting with me turned 6 well before I did (our school system made Sep 30 of the starting year for cut-off in turning 6 and starting 1st grade), I was generally among the youngest in a given class by a few months. But not by a full 2 or 3 years in the 8th grade, as Masterdraking would have it. Where are you that your kids are 15 or 16 in the 8th Grade? Hell, I enlisted in the USMC at 17 when I graduated from my senior year in 1961. Turned 18 in boot camp at Parris Island

 

[Stella_Omega]

Erm. Born 9/3/1943, I was 6 when I entered 1st Grade. Simple extension will give you, 2nd - 7, 3rd - 8, 4th - 9, 5th -10, 6th - 11, 7th - 12, 8th - 13, 9th - 14, 10th - 15, 11th - 16, 12th - 17.

Because most of my classmates starting with me turned 6 well before I did (our school system made Sep 30 of the starting year for cut-off in turning 6 and starting 1st grade), I was generally among the youngest in a given class by a few months. But not by a full 2 or 3 years in the 8th grade, as Masterdraking would have it. Where are you that your kids are 15 or 16 in the 8th Grade? Hell, I enlisted in the USMC at 17 when I graduated from my senior year in 1961. Turned 18 in boot camp at Parris Island

Describe a sexy woman for us, pleeeze?

 

[lovecraft68]

Any time I see this I go back to one simple thing. "Where the fuck are their parents?" and who the hell is teaching these kids right from wrong besides the obvious answer of nobody?

yes you can blame the school to a degree yes you can scream about what laws should be put into place. But bottom line is "parenting" is becoming extinct. Who the hell is watching these little beasties?

Kids need to know right from wrong. I know school becomes mob mentality to a degree but come on, these kids didn't know this wasn't right?

Just goes back to Keanu Reeves classic line from Parenthood about needing a license to drive and catch a fish but any idiot can be a parent.