What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[JenAltArmy]

I read most everything that counters. That's how I got to where I am today instead of remaining totally devoted to the Democrat Party and Socialist control of the economy...

we must give them more money, more power. the king is dead, long live obama and the collective. this is the only way to go!

 

[koalabear]

U_D...





What do you ever read that challenges your world view?

Soros's autobiography, Watching Warren Beatty in Shampoo and reading AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka's plan for taking the land away from farmers and giving it to the people.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

*chuckle*

 

[Luk]

Frank Ryan
The American Thinker

Da dumb dumb dumb dumb, dumb dumb, dumb dumb...

A_J, when did you change your name to Frank? And why are you signing your posts?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

__________________
"A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business."
Eric Hoffer

 

[JenAltArmy]

Soros's autobiography, Watching Warren Beatty in Shampoo and reading AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka's plan for taking the land away from farmers and giving it to the people.

what I find interesting about the AFL-CIO, well maybe not interesting but should have been a wake up call. GE has moved a couple manufacturing job to SC (think it was sc, I'll have to check the article when I get home). why? GE moved the jobs to a NON UNION state to reduce costs and red tape.

union suck, add layers of bloat managment and hand cuff people. there are no happy endings when you deal with a union

 

[Sean Renaud]

There are no happy endings for people when you don't deal with a union. There is a reason why the middle class has been destroyed over the last thirty years. It's you. It's your fault. You voted for the enemy and the enemy has won and how you dare squable about how we got there.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

There are no happy endings for people when you don't deal with a union. There is a reason why the middle class has been destroyed over the last thirty years. It's you. It's your fault. You voted for the enemy and the enemy has won and how you dare squable about how we got there.

Good lord, what are you drinking?

I'd ask for some, but I have to spend the evening with the Christians...

 

[JenAltArmy]

There are no happy endings for people when you don't deal with a union. There is a reason why the middle class has been destroyed over the last thirty years. It's you. It's your fault. You voted for the enemy and the enemy has won and how you dare squable about how we got there.

the middle class was destoryed by Dem's, and the Union. wake up

union's added too much red tape, and made it impossible to complete on the world market. or did you miss that in the history books? or that you are so filled with hate, y ou can't accept that? remember how Japan kicked our ass? did you forget that Japan did such a number on us car manufactures that they almost went out of biz? I'm sure you blame that on not having a big ass government. hell, look at the carter years, that was a big ass government and I hope to never live like that. a mortgage at 20% interest, thats NUTS

move to Russia! oh wait, they are a quazi capitalist society (mob run)
move to China. oh wait, they are not a true socialist country
what will the nut jobbers like yourself do? we m ust have more government!

why can't you accept responsiblity? why must you blame others and not see that YOU are the reason for your failures. strop looking to place the blame and grow up.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You think it's a coincidence that as unions declined so did the middle class? What do you blame it on?

 

[JenAltArmy]

Good lord, what are you drinking?

I'd ask for some, but I have to spend the evening with the Christians...

how do people get that stupid?

is it ignorance? Failure to see the reality of life? Drugs? Mother on crack when it was a baby?

 

[koalabear]

You think it's a coincidence that as unions declined so did the middle class? What do you blame it on?

What % of the middle class were union, super turd?

 

[JenAltArmy]

You think it's a coincidence that as unions declined so did the middle class? What do you blame it on?

HELLO?!? is anyone there?

if the union's would have stayed strong, there would be no auto manufacturing in America. its just that simple

 

[JenAltArmy]

What % of the middle class were union, super turd?

Sean is more nuts than UD

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You think it's a coincidence that as unions declined so did the middle class? What do you blame it on?

No.

Unions are in decline because they became hood ornaments once government got involved in their business by gradually replacing all their functions so that both entities became an anchor on the American Business environment.

There's another factor that you can measure and that's the growth of government superimposed on the "decline" of the middle-class.

Government grows at the expense of the economy, not as the guarantor of wealth or equality...
__________________
"The more communal enterprise extends, the more attention is drawn to the bad business results of nationalized and municipalized undertakings. It is impossible to miss the cause of the difficulty: a child could see where something was lacking. So that it cannot be said that this problem has not been tackled. But the way in which it has been tackled has been deplorably inadequate. Its organic connection with the essential nature of socialist enterprise has been regarded as merely a question of better selection of persons. It has not been realized that even exceptionally gifted men of high character cannot solve the problems created by socialist control of industry."
Ludwig Heinrich Elder von Mises

In a Libertarian Society, Unions are a necessary good that improves productivity.
In a Socialist Society, Unions are a redundant evil that reduces productivity.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[JenAltArmy]

and how much money did obama give to the AFL-CIO as a pay off?

No.

Unions are in decline because they became hood ornaments once government got involved in their business by gradually replacing all their functions so that both entities became an anchor on the American Business environment.

There's another factor that you can measure and that's the growth of government superimposed on the "decline" of the middle-class.

Government grows at the expense of the economy, not as the guarantor of wealth or equality...
__________________
"The more communal enterprise extends, the more attention is drawn to the bad business results of nationalized and municipalized undertakings. It is impossible to miss the cause of the difficulty: a child could see where something was lacking. So that it cannot be said that this problem has not been tackled. But the way in which it has been tackled has been deplorably inadequate. Its organic connection with the essential nature of socialist enterprise has been regarded as merely a question of better selection of persons. It has not been realized that even exceptionally gifted men of high character cannot solve the problems created by socialist control of industry."
Ludwig Heinrich Elder von Mises

In a Libertarian Society, Unions are a necessary good that improves productivity.
In a Socialist Society, Unions are a redundant evil that reduces productivity.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[Sean Renaud]

No.

Unions are in decline because they became hood ornaments once government got involved in their business by gradually replacing all their functions so that both entities became an anchor on the American Business environment.

There's another factor that you can measure and that's the growth of government superimposed on the "decline" of the middle-class.

Government grows at the expense of the economy, not as the guarantor of wealth or equality...
the Stupid

I suppose you can quote specific laws and how and where they failed since clearly they did?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I suppose you can quote specific laws and how and where they failed since clearly they did?

The creation of the Department of Education has not made us one wit brighter.

The "Progressive" Income tax has done not one thing to equalize the "wealth" gap.

The creation of HUD has not eliminated failing cities any more than the war on drugs has decreased drug usage. You take away their pot and they start using bath salts.

I could go on...

The turning the Senate over to the mob's vote has not done one thing to ease the corruption in politics, in fact, it basically turned DC into a one-stop shop.

The war on poverty did not end poverty.

Head Start did not improve reading skills.

I could go on...

HMOs were not the answer to medical costs and going off the gold standard and becoming Keynesians did not eliminate the booms and busts of the natural business cycle...

 

[JenAltArmy]

clearly we need more government

The creation of the Department of Education has not made us one wit brighter.

The "Progressive" Income tax has done not one thing to equalize the "wealth" gap.

The creation of HUD has not eliminated failing cities any more than the war on drugs has decreased drug usage. You take away their pot and they start using bath salts.

I could go on...

The turning the Senate over to the mob's vote has not done one thing to ease the corruption in politics, in fact, it basically turned DC into a one-stop shop.

The war on poverty did not end poverty.

Head Start did not improve reading skills.

I could go on...

HMOs were not the answer to medical costs and going off the gold standard and becoming Keynesians did not eliminate the booms and busts of the natural business cycle...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

clearly we need more government

You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.

What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid

 

[JenAltArmy]

You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.

What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid

well but a better plan is the obama plan, 40¢ for overhead and if one is a good obama citizen, the would give 70¢ to the collective!

don't worry, obama math proves that they will make it up in volumn

 

[Sean Renaud]

The creation of the Department of Education has not made us one wit brighter.

The "Progressive" Income tax has done not one thing to equalize the "wealth" gap.

The creation of HUD has not eliminated failing cities any more than the war on drugs has decreased drug usage. You take away their pot and they start using bath salts.

I could go on...

The turning the Senate over to the mob's vote has not done one thing to ease the corruption in politics, in fact, it basically turned DC into a one-stop shop.

The war on poverty did not end poverty.

Head Start did not improve reading skills.

I could go on...

HMOs were not the answer to medical costs and going off the gold standard and becoming Keynesians did not eliminate the booms and busts of the natural business cycle...

But you can't point to what effects they did or didn't have? Odd.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

But you can't point to what effects they did or didn't have? Odd.

Welfare destroyed the black family by kicking the father-figure out of the home.

Do you not notice that we don't make "laws" anymore, we launch grand programs which generally blow up once in operation...

__________________
How can you measure the value of knowing that company books are sounder than they were before? Of no more overnight bankruptcies with the employees and retirees left holding the bag? No more disruption to entire sectors of the economy?
Michael Oxley 2002
Co-Author of Sarbanes-Oxley Law

It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis.
Chris Dodd
Co-Author Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act
Friend of Angelo

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Obama mandated Green cars and they're being made in Sweden...



Take that to the Middle Class and the Unions.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Welfare destroyed the black family by kicking the father-figure out of the home.

Do you not notice that we don't make "laws" anymore, we launch grand programs which generally blow up once in operation...

Kicking the father out of the home destroyed the family. It wasn't the welfare it was kicking the father out of already struggling families. It falls under the topic of moves so incredibly stupid that the only reason I'm not saying it was completely on purpose with the full intent of destroying the black family is because no whites in charge of this country have ever been racist at any point in time. Surely there must have been some reason to believe that was a good idea right? That a flood of single parent poor families was a goal why?