Toy Question

[lonecowboy2]

I have seen a toy used in various bdsm movies that is a red stick shaped piece that emits a spark. Does anyone know what it is called and where to find one?

 

[seela]

Violet wand. I'm not from the USA, but I'd assume you can get it from pretty much any adult store. Or buy it online.

 

[Etoile]

It's unlikely your average sex shop will have violet wands. Kink oriented places probably will. Or shop online. Stockroom.com definitely has them.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

It's unlikely your average sex shop will have violet wands. Kink oriented places probably will. Or shop online. Stockroom.com definitely has them.

Damn and I just deleted an ad from them. I will have to take a look.

Thanks

Mike

 

[DVS]

I have seen a toy used in various bdsm movies that is a red stick shaped piece that emits a spark. Does anyone know what it is called and where to find one?

There are a lot of different electrical toys put into BDSM play. There are fly swatters, TENS units, violet wands and cattle prods, to mention a few. There are also quite a few e-stim attachments for TENS units and wands.

From your description, I don't think you are looking for a violet wand. While you can have a red color in parts of a violet wand, the wand itself is usually black. Some of the more popular attachments to the wand are glass tubes which are filled with a gas. When the electrical charge is sent through that tube, the glass glows a certain color. One of the colors you can get is red or closer to orange. Of course, the most common is violet, and this is where the name comes from. Also, inside the glass tube is a visible spark as well as one on the outside when it touches something.

But, what you seem to be talking about when you mention a red stick shaped piece is a cattle prod. There are several different devices that call themselves a cattle prod. I was able to get a picture of one, but the one I really wanted a pic of, I couldn't find.

This one is totally red, but sometimes just the business end is red. The other one, which I can't find a pic of is always completely red, and it's only about a foot long and has kind of a squared tube shape, and it tapers down to a point at the business end. It can produce a little bit stronger zap than a normal cattle prod, but both of these are seen in a lot of BDSM videos.

New tech version of a cattle prod It does pack a very nasty zap as well, and both will produce a spark at the point of contact, if you look closely. In the dark, you would notice the spark.

The prod I can't find a picture of probably goes by a specific name brand, but it is still in the cattle prod category. You can Google cattle prod, or various phrases of that to find what you want. You might have to go to an actual stock yard product store to get what you are looking for.

These are considered extreme toys because there usually isn't an intensity setting on them. They are always set at full dose. Use extreme care when messing with one of these. While they aren't out of the ball park for BDSM play, they are made for controlling cattle. This makes them extreme on a human. Cattle have more body mass to absorb the shock and it can take more voltage to get their attention.

 

[lonecowboy2]

Thanks all for the replys! I got lots of useful information on other toys, but I don't think I described what I am looking for correctly. It is a cone shaped rod, about 4" long, with a black box attached to the wide end. The narrow end emits a spark. I have seen them most often used in the kink.com videos. I saw a website for them, but cannot seem to find it again. If you have seen this toy, or know where I can locate one, please let me know.

Thank you again for all of your help, and suggestions.

 

[DVS]

Thanks all for the replys! I got lots of useful information on other toys, but I don't think I described what I am looking for correctly. It is a cone shaped rod, about 4" long, with a black box attached to the wide end. The narrow end emits a spark. I have seen them most often used in the kink.com videos. I saw a website for them, but cannot seem to find it again. If you have seen this toy, or know where I can locate one, please let me know.

Thank you again for all of your help, and suggestions.

I couldn't find a link to it, but once you mentioned more info about it's size, etc. I'd assume this is what you are looking for. It's not much different than any other cattle prod except for it's size. Most cattle prods take D cell size batteries and so would last longer than this device that takes much smaller size batteries. But, if compact size is what you are looking for, this little toy has it.

TAZapper

 

[bhndblueyes88]

I think I know what he's talking about since me mentioned kink.com, DVS, and that's pretty much it.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

DVS

YES,YES,YES. That's the one. I looked all over the net for one and could not find it. Thank you so much.

Slave is going to get a Bday present, she just does not know what it will be yet.<G>

She will be back east on the day but I damn well will have it when she comes home.

She will ether love you or hate you or some combination.

Thank you so much.

Mike

 

[lonecowboy2]

DVS,

That is EXACTLY what I am looking for. It sounds as though you have some experience with this device. What is the best way to go about learning proper usage of this toy for maximum enjoyment for Master and slave?

Once again, thank you for your help.

 

[MarriedKitten]

I couldn't find a link to it, but once you mentioned more info about it's size, etc. I'd assume this is what you are looking for. It's not much different than any other cattle prod except for it's size. Most cattle prods take D cell size batteries and so would last longer than this device that takes much smaller size batteries. But, if compact size is what you are looking for, this little toy has it.

TAZapper

that toy looks amazing...

 

[DVS]

DVS,

That is EXACTLY what I am looking for. It sounds as though you have some experience with this device. What is the best way to go about learning proper usage of this toy for maximum enjoyment for Master and slave?

Once again, thank you for your help.

Well, this can be a nasty little toy, just like any of the cattle prod type products. All of them transmit either a DC or static electrical charge. Because the charge is instantaneous and very short, it's mostly voltage and no current which is a good thing.

A TENS unit will produce a current but in normal use, the voltage and current of a TENS won't ever be as high as the voltage of a cattle prod. Also, a violet wand will produce a current, but in normal use, it won't be set as high as a cattle prod, either. Most TENS units produce DC voltage and current (some do produce a small AC current), while a violet wand produces static current.

DC current is safer than AC, which is what normal house current is. That can kill you, very easily. DC is much safer, but it can also kill you, if used incorrectly. Static is even safer than DC, but it can also be very dangerous in the wrong hands.

Keep in mind that all of these toys involve electricity. Just because you see them used on kink.com, that doesn't mean they are safe for anybody to play with. You do need to understand some things about electricity to be safe.

The TAZapper page says it produces a static charge. But it doesn't say how large that charge is. But, because it's large enough to also produce a spark, it probably has a lot of voltage behind it. And there is no intensity knob on it, so it's always set to its highest setting. While a violet wand can produce a very large static charge, it has an intensity knob on it so you can adjust the jolt.

The lack of an intensity knob doesn't make the TAZapper any different than other cattle prods, but that is something to keep in mind. Also, it says there is no recovery time before it can produce another charge. That can be very nice as far as play is concerned, but it can also be dangerous if that play gets out of hand. Using it on someone repeatedly can be very intense.

I don't think I'd want to use this thing as quickly as I could. Actually, when you think about things like this, a lot of the sensuous attraction of the toy is its potential. What I mean by that is one or two zaps will tell you what it can do. From that point on it can be very much a mental torment, over and above a physical torment. Just teasing someone with it, after a couple of initial zaps can be very intimidating. I think it is the best way to use this kind of toy.

While I can't teach you the correct way to use this kind of toy in a forum post, I can tell you that zapping the human body in the same place over and over with it will cause a particular result. It will most likely cause a numbing effect to the body and eventually damage tissue at the point of contact. How soon the damage will occur isn't easy to estimate because of how electricity of all kinds react.

And the tissue of the human body is also different, depending on the location. An arm or calf muscle will probably be pretty resistant to damage, because that skin tissue is exposed to the sun and its ultraviolet waves. The skin on the inner thigh and tissue around the crotch is of a different type and more likely to show damage sooner. And, of course, those areas are probably the most likely someone would use this toy.

In addition to the numbing the body will feel from repeated zaps, any fluid that is in that particular are (about 1/2 to 1 inch circle) will react to the charge and heat up. This will probably cause water blisters after a short time and with continuous use, a burn could show up. Neither of these reactions would be instantaneous, but would probably show up after a period of time, like a bruise would.

Most liquids and electricity like each other a lot. The intensity of the toy would increase a lot, depending on the conductivity of the liquid that is present. Liquids would include all body fluids, sweat, water, etc. as well as alcohol to a point. Even thick fluids can conduct electricity, as that is the consistency of many lubes to be used with electroplay toys such as Electroglide. This is one part of using this toy that will require some experience and education, because many people sweat during play and of course there will be other body fluids present, too.

I don't know how well the toy is insulated, so this caution could also include the user's sweat. While it shouldn't cause a shock with normal use, all electricity looks for the quickest way to ground. So, just for the sake of explanation, if it was used in a wet situation, similar to what rain would cause, the shock could very well travel back to the hand of the operator as well as anywhere that water was. In fact, with the amount of voltage it creates, it could follow water quite a distance. There is no way of knowing exactly how far, but with the best conducting conditions, it could probably travel several feet.

Another thing to take into consideration is the spark that the toy produces. Just like the violet wand, the toy can be used to spark fluids used in fire play. When the spark comes in contact with any flammable fluids, it will be just like striking a match. While this might be seen as an advantage for the toy, it can also be a disadvantage.

Extreme caution should be used, until you are familiar with the toy and it's effects on the parts of the body you intend to use it. The contacts are very close together, which is good. That means the zap won't travel very far, in dry conditions. It should be relatively safe to use on most areas of the body, but I would NOT want to use it above the neck or in the area of the center of the chest, where the heart is. This would include the back, in the same relative are where the heart would be.

Below the waist should be fine, as long as you don't get out of hand with repeated use. Above the waist, I'd be very cautious with it. While it might be tempting to zap a tit with it (and from the toy's recommendations, they say it is OK), I'd still be worried about that one time when conditions were less than perfect. Similar to when people participate in breath play when everything can be just fine until that one time when you go too far, or you don't heed a warning that an experienced user would see. I would also not insert it into any body cavity, because there are high concentrations of bodily fluids that would allow the charge to travel further through the body than you'd expect.

In most situations, you can't see electricity. You might see two wires and until you touch them together, you won't know if any electricity is present in them. But when they first make contact, and the voltage is high enough, you'll see a spark when they first touch. Then, once that connection is made, you won't see any electricity, again. It's also true with this toy. You will see the spark, but in certain conditions, the charge can travel beyond that short span between the contacts. There are things like this that you need to learn about electricity and why experience is key when you mess with it. Play safe.