Eternal life

[phrodeau]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

 

[Wok]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

The one who places the most money on the plate.

 

[pointless]

which one is most likely to get me laid?

 

[Peregrinator]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

False dichotomy, furfoot.

 

[phrodeau]

The one who places the most money on the plate.

If the offering was skimpy at this church, I'd fear that they'd turn off the air conditioning.

 

[phrodeau]

False dichotomy, furfoot.

They seemed pretty adamant that they had The Truth. They just weren't clear on where it lies.

 

[Phelia]

What Perg said.

My personal truth, though, is that my last moment of consciousness will last (what is, to me) forever. Let us hope that I am in the state of mind to think of something nice.

 

[evesdream]

I'm reading a book called Sum. I think you'd like it Phrodeau. Just a series of afterlife possibilities, each about two pages long. They mostly all end in that twilight zoney, foolish human, "be careful what you wish for", shaking fist at the heavens way, but it's still worth the ride.

In one of them you relive all of your experiences - but in qualitive order, not chronological order (so, seven months having sex; fifteen months looking for lost items. You spend six years clipping your toenails; you take a 200 day shower).

 

[KingOrfeo]

which one is most likely to get me laid?

Well, if you perish you definitely won't get laid. If you go to Hell -- depending on whether this is an Ironic Hell setup or more of a Fire and Brimstone Hell kinda thing -- you might get laid and not enjoy it, or something.

 

[phrodeau]

Eve told the serpent that God said she would die if she touched the forbidden fruit. When the serpent told Eve that she wouldn't die, was it telling the truth?

 

[eyer]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

The question isn't socialist...

...the collective can't give you the answer.

It's all between you and God, phrodeau.

Ask Him...

...if you seriously want to know The Truth.

 

[Phelia]

Eve told the serpent that God said she would die if she touched the forbidden fruit. When the serpent told Eve that she wouldn't die, was it telling the truth?

What fun is it to engage in argument on a fallacial basis?

I'll tell you.

Such fun. Yes.

 

[KRCummings]

Eve told the serpent that God said she would die if she touched the forbidden fruit. When the serpent told Eve that she wouldn't die, was it telling the truth?

In Eden they did not know death. When Eve ate the fruit they were cast out and (eventually) knew death. So yes it was lying.

 

[KRCummings]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

To many Hell is death and not a form of afterlife like Heaven. Since Hell is really just barely touched on in the Bible then there is little to go on. Most of what people know of Hell is not from the Bible.

 

[phrodeau]

In Eden they did not know death. When Eve ate the fruit they were cast out and (eventually) knew death. So yes it was lying.

Well, they knew how to kill fruit, didn't they?

 

[evesdream]

Well, they knew how to kill fruit, didn't they?

Your church sounds extremely depressing.

 

[Phelia]

To many Hell is death and not a form of afterlife like Heaven. Since Hell is really just barely touched on in the Bible then there is little to go on. Most of what people know of Hell is not from the Bible.

Interesting and illuminating. K, what do you, personally, think of the afterlife, if you don't mind answering? Is there any sort of existence, and if so, what is entailed?

I certainly have a flavoured version of Hell that I refer to, but I'm confused by the idea of it as not an afterlife. You differentiate between heaven and death. Is that a personal interpretation, or quite widepspread?

 

[Peregrinator]

They seemed pretty adamant that they had The Truth. They just weren't clear on where it lies.

Oh! Well, in that case, tell me where the church is, so I too can partake.

 

[phrodeau]

Your church sounds extremely depressing.

There was a highlight during the baptismal ceremony involving a young woman in a T-shirt.

 

[Peregrinator]

The question isn't socialist...

...the collective can't give you the answer.

It's all between you and God, phrodeau.

Ask Him...

...if you seriously want to know The Truth.

I want to understand your belief system.

 

[bronzeage]

They seemed pretty adamant that they had The Truth. They just weren't clear on where it lies.

The official line is, eternal life is available to everyone. There is no requirements as to race or sex.

It is up to each individual to choose, or not.

 

[phrodeau]

The official line is, eternal life is available to everyone. There is no requirements as to race or sex.

It is up to each individual to choose, or not.

The literature was clear that everyone has eternal life whether they choose it or not.

Maybe it was poorly worded.

 

[koalabear]

I attended a church service this morning, and unlike most of the attendees I paid attention.

In the church literature they lay out their beliefs on a variety of topics. One listed was that they believe that everybody has eternal life. Those who believe in Jesus will spend it in Heaven, and those who don't will spend it in Hell.

During the service, John 3:16 was read out. It says that those who believe in Jesus won't perish and will have eternal life, implying that those who don't believe will perish and won't have eternal life.

Which do you suppose is The Truth?

Legos are not covered under that warranty.

 

[cookiejar]

Hell is on Earth ... I make my own hell.

 

[phrodeau]

Legos are not covered under that warranty.

Plastic is forever, pal.