Socialism

[cjh]

A very excellent post example re: the ignorance of true capitalism.

A true capitalist medium would not even be doing business in the USSA today...

...its owner would have long ago refused to even deal with such statist control and bureaucracy.

<snip>.

so all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products in china or that avail themselves of china's lower labor costs are not capitalists?

 

[richard_daily]

so all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products in china or that avail themselves of china's lower labor costs are not capitalists?

Yeah, I was wondering when someone was going to point out the obvious to him...


I guess he's under the mistaken impression that capitalists won't deal with an authoritarian regime in China.... or since we're talking about socialism, Europe for that matter.

Just when you think that the wingnuts couldn't get anymore stupid, they surprise you.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Just when you think that the wingnuts couldn't get anymore stupid, they surprise you.

It's SOCIALISM!(er, what was the question?? )

 

[Ishmael]

so all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products in china or that avail themselves of china's lower labor costs are not capitalists?

Sure they are. It's an accounting formula, you know it CJ. And if, or when, the folks in Africa ever reach the level of the 'intelligent' worker, then they too will become the "go to" place for cheap, mass manufactured, mostly unnecessary cheap shit sucked up by people who shop at Walmart for what they can buy, not what they can save. We're lifting the third world up, one dollar at a time.

Ishmael
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[richard_daily]

Sure they are. It's an accounting formula, you know it CJ. And if, or when, the folks in Africa ever reach the level of the 'intelligent' worker, then they too will become the "go to" place for cheap, mass manufactured, mostly unnecessary cheap shit sucked up by people who shop at Walmart for what they can buy, not what they can save. We're lifting the third world up, one dollar at a time.

Ishmael
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You're an idiot.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You're an idiot.

You forgot to sign it.

Whenever Ishy comes across something he can't refute, he just goes:

Idiot.

Ishmael

or

Bullshit.

Ishmael

 

[eyer]

Oh, what bullshit! American and British capitalists were slavering to do biz with the new Soviet Union as soon as their governments would let them! Business has no vested interest in any political system as such. A true capitalist, in the sense you are using the phrase, adapts to the business environment he finds. If it's heavily regulated, he deals with that, so long as the regulations don't entirely erase his profit margin.

You speak of "capitalism" from a socialist point of view...

...just as the "American" and "British" individuals you cite practice(d).

And just as Communist China excels at today.

What you're truly speaking of is simply "business", not capitalism.

I hate to pop the socialist bubble you obviously have such a dire and insecure need for...

...but capitalism is a philosophy of economics that naturally twins with the political philosophy of individual liberty. As those two philosophical branches meld, a nation's culture is naturally formed.

An individual who reverences individual liberty as her/his political philosophy is an individualist.

An individual who reverences capitalism as his/her economic philosophy is a capitalist.

And, as much as those two natural branches are separated, the resulting vacuum is naturally filled by whatever 57 varieties of socialism is popular at the time...

And btw:

Citing Marx as reference for capitalism is like citing an atheist as a biblical source...

...both don't believe in what they preach.

Needless to say...

...one should choose very wisely whom to do "business" with.

so all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products in china or that avail themselves of china's lower labor costs are not capitalists?

"all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products" are simply doing "business" with Communist China.

If one chooses to do "business" with another party that practices such tyrannical socialist means as the Communist Chinese do on their own people (right neci?), that one - at very best - can be simply tagged a "business" person.

"Business" is "business", right?

Reverence of individual liberty - of his/her own and every other individual's God-given right to it - is primary in the literal definition of both capitalism and capitalist.

If that reverence isn't primary, the definition does not apply.

BTW crack:

I intentionally post Communist China...

...do you intentionally omit communist?

Do you believe that communist government would be insulted?

Do you not agree that their government is communist?

Communist China proclaims its communism...

...why do you don't?

 

[Sonny Limatina]

You forgot to sign it.

Whenever Ishy comes across something he can't refute, he just goes:

Idiot.

Ishmael

or

Bullshit.

Ishmael

After which some nimrod like Sonny Limatina usually posts something like, "Why did you sign that one twice?"

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You speak of "capitalism" from a socialist point of view...

...just as the "American" and "British" individuals you cite practice(d).

And just as Communist China excels at today.

What you're truly speaking of is simply "business", not capitalism.

I hate to pop the socialist bubble you obviously have such a dire and insecure need for...

...but capitalism is a philosophy of economics that naturally twins with the political philosophy of individual liberty. As those two philosophical branches meld, a nation's culture is naturally formed.

An individual who reverences individual liberty as her/his political philosophy is an individualist.

An individual who reverences capitalism as his/her economic philosophy is a capitalist.

And, as much as those two natural branches are separated, the resulting vacuum is naturally filled by whatever 57 varieties of socialism is popular at the time...

And btw:

Citing Marx as reference for capitalism is like citing an atheist as a biblical source...

...both don't believe in what they preach.

Needless to say...

...one should choose very wisely whom to do "business" with.



"all those companies that foam at the mouth to sell their products" are simply doing "business" with Communist China.

If one chooses to do "business" with another party that practices such tyrannical socialist means as the Communist Chinese do on their own people (right neci?), that one - at very best - can be simply tagged a "business" person.

"Business" is "business", right?

Reverence of individual liberty - of his/her own and every other individual's God-given right to it - is primary in the literal definition of both capitalism and capitalist.

If that reverence isn't primary, the definition does not apply.

BTW crack:

I intentionally post Communist China...

...do you intentionally omit communist?

Do you believe that communist government would be insulted?

Do you not agree that their government is communist?

Communist China proclaims its communism...

...why do you don't?

Bullshit.

Ishmael

After which some nimrod like Sonny Limatina usually posts something like, "Why did you sign that one twice?"

Idiot.

Ishmael



(this is fun)

 

[Luk]

After which some nimrod like Sonny Limatina usually posts something like, "Why did you sign that one twice?"

Hey! I thought I was the only nimrod that did that. And how the fuck does Spell Check in Firefox let "nimrod" go but red lines "clit?"

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Hey! I thought I was the only nimrod that did that. And how the fuck does Spell Check in Firefox let "nimrod" go but red lines "clit?"

Nimrod is biblical.

 

[lustatopia]

“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.”

--Karl Marx

 

[Luk]

Nimrod is biblical.

Clit is heavenly.

 

[Luk]

Here's a technical definition.

Definition of Socialism

Socialism

A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme. See Communism, Fourierism, Saint-Simonianism, forms of socialism.

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/words/so/socialism221254.html#ixzz1KTkyap3P

 

[lustatopia]

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

- Thomas Jefferson

 

[eyer]

“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.”

--Karl Marx

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Matt 10:34

 

[lustatopia]

Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

CARACAS (Reuters) - Capitalism may be to blame for the lack of life on the planet Mars, Venezuela's socialist President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday.

"I have always said, heard, that it would not be strange that there had been civilization on Mars, but maybe capitalism arrived there, imperialism arrived and finished off the planet," Chavez said in speech to mark World Water Day.

Chavez, who also holds capitalism responsible for many of the world's problems, warned that water supplies on Earth were drying up.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Chavez-says-capitalism-may-rb-3915449179.html?x=0&.v=1

 

[Liar]

Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Chavez-says-capitalism-may-rb-3915449179.html?x=0&.v=1

That was delightfully random. What were you specifically trying to say with this post?

 

[lustatopia]

King Orefo is right. The National Socialists hated Communists.

The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.

The party's last leader, Adolf Hitler, was appointed Chancellor of Germany by president Paul von Hindenburg in 1933. Hitler rapidly established a totalitarian regime known as the Third Reich.

Nazi ideology stressed the failures of laissez-faire capitalism, communism, economic liberalism, and democracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

The Nazi were just one of Irezumi's "57 varieties of socialism." Of course, that's not what they are best remembered for it.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

King Orefo is right. The National Socialists hated Communists.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

The Nazi were just one of Irezumi's "57 varieties of socialism." Of course, that's not what they are best remembered for it.

You seriously need to work on your backhanded compliment game, guy. Putting my name in all your cutesy non-sequitur painted half-blurts ain't going to make you look like you dressed for church on Sunday when you're wearing Pro-Keds and cutoffs.

http://herd.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451e1dc69e2010535e7c365970c-800wi

 

[lustatopia]

http://herd.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451e1dc69e2010535e7c365970c-800wi

So Jesus WAS a Socialist? I wonder what Christ is now? Perhaps he didn't like the company socialists tend to keep.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of todays capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

---Adolf Hitler, Leader of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, Speech on May 1 1927

 

[Sean Renaud]

Jesus is dead now so it's not anything. If you think he'd be anything but a radical leftist if he was alive today you're insane.

 

[JenAltArmy]

yes, and I'm sure this worked out great.

until 1950's....

Socialism is dead
(just like your sex life)

Here's a technical definition.

Definition of Socialism

Socialism

A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme. See Communism, Fourierism, Saint-Simonianism, forms of socialism.

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/words/so/socialism221254.html#ixzz1KTkyap3P

 

[JenAltArmy]

Jesus is dead now so it's not anything. If you think he'd be anything but a radical leftist if he was alive today you're insane.

summary, socialism is dead, long live the king (obama)

 

[JenAltArmy]

thank god that the only people you meet, are in the unemployment line. as your views on life, will not harm others

You're an idiot.