Trump for president?

Would you vote for Donald Trump for POTUS in 2012?


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include on option along the lines of "it aint gonna happen" or you can feel free to go fuck yourself.
 
I am going to support and vote for Donald Trump.
 
There is no doubt he is a great businessman but I still think there is a huge difference between being President of the United States and an excellent businessman. Business and crunching numbers is only part of the job of President. Just my opinion.
 
There is no doubt he is a great businessman but I still think there is a huge difference between being President of the United States and an excellent businessman. Business and crunching numbers is only part of the job of President. Just my opinion.

He says that he's a great business man, but does anyone know if it's true?
 
I don't think I could vote for someone I felt was not compassionate. The Donald's idea of compassion is throwing money to someone, not actually doing things himself. While this is not the sole reason I would not support him, I just could not imagine him consoling the mother of a service member killed in the line of duty. One feels that he thinks that our military is just for saps who cannot find a "real" job. Seems an unpatriotic trait. I think he might be a good advisor in his area of expertise, but let someone else be the leader.
 
Why or why not? Make your case here.

Poll also. Wait for it.

what has obama created? Name any organization that obama started? Name any organization that obama has run?

Being an attorney and chasing ambulances only says that obama knows how to take other people’s money

At least with Trump, he has built something. He knows about profit/loss. Trump knows about cutting cost (something government people have no clue on). He knows about CASH FLOW

Yes obama knows about cash flow, he watches it flow out to China
 
There is no doubt he is a great businessman but I still think there is a huge difference between being President of the United States and an excellent businessman. Business and crunching numbers is only part of the job of President. Just my opinion.

what makes obama qualified then? okay so obama can give a good speach, and Monica can give good....
 
He says that he's a great business man, but does anyone know if it's true?

what makes trump appealing, his company was on the verge of going under. He saved it. Obama is still trying to gain traction to push this car over the cliff (and by car I mean the country of the United States)

obama is a pimp, working for the highest bidder
 
The world is mad enough so no surprise if the great american unwashed voted him in.

Obama walked in well with help of all of his corruption and where bush left us. But obama even did far more damage so now someone needs to fix all of the damage that obama has done.


There is no doubt he is a great businessman but I still think there is a huge difference between being President of the United States and an excellent businessman. Business and crunching numbers is only part of the job of President. Just my opinion.

Kinda like Ross Perot awhile back...

They know how to make money but they lack in other interests. But look at obama.. He just lied about everything just to get in.... And he doesn't know shit about anything.



what makes trump appealing, his company was on the verge of going under. He saved it. Obama is still trying to gain traction to push this car over the cliff (and by car I mean the country of the United States)

obama is a pimp, working for the highest bidder


You are very right.... But how many people are bidding? Muslims,China,Soros....etc
 
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Obama walked in well with help of all of his corruption and where bush left us. But obama even did far more damage so now someone needs to fix all of the damage that obama has done.




Kinda like Ross Perot awhile back...

They know how to make money but they lack in other interests. But look at obama.. He just lied about everything just to get in.... And he doesn't know shit about anything.


can't forget how much obama just paid (OFF) the union. obama has the AFL-CIO communist organization vote
 
what has obama created? Name any organization that obama started? Name any organization that obama has run?

from wiki....


Two years after graduating, Obama was hired in Chicago as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. He worked there as a community organizer from June 1985 to May 1988.[27][28] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from one to thirteen. He helped set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[29] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[30] In mid-1988, he traveled for the first time in Europe for three weeks and then for five weeks in Kenya, where he met many of his paternal relatives for the first time.[31] He returned in August 2006 for a visit to his father's birthplace, a village near Kisumu in rural western Kenya.[32]

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[33] and president of the journal in his second year.[29][34] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[35] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[36] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago.[33] Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention[29][34] and led to a publishing contract and advance for a book about race relations,[37] which evolved into a personal memoir. The manuscript was published in mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.[37]
University of Chicago Law School and civil rights attorney

In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book.[37][38] He then served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.[39]

From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[40] In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[41]


From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation.[27] He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999

At least with Trump, he has built something. He knows about profit/loss. Trump knows about cutting cost (something government people have no clue on). He knows about CASH FLOW


Actually Trump earned his money the old fashioned way.,....he inherited it...funny how you dont mention his series of crushing bankruptcies in your high praise for him , nor do you mention the bailouts he recieved in the 90's... wird huh?


from the wiki



By 1989, the effects of recession left Trump unable to meet loan payments. Trump financed the construction of his third casino, the $1 billion Taj Mahal, primarily with high-interest junk bonds. Although he shored up his businesses with additional loans and postponed interest payments, by 1991 increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy[13] and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal re-emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50% ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.[27]

On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel was forced to file a prepackaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection plan after being unable to make its debt payments. Under the plan, Trump agreed to give up a 49% stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders. In return Trump would receive more favorable terms on the remaining $550+ million owed to the lenders and retain his position as chief executive, though he would not be paid and would not have a role in day-to-day operations.[28]

By 1994, Trump had eliminated a large portion of his $900 million personal debt[29] and reduced significantly his nearly $3.5 billion in business debt. While he was forced to relinquish the Trump Shuttle (which he had bought in 1989), he managed to retain Trump Tower in New York City and control of his three casinos in Atlantic City. Chase Manhattan Bank, which lent Trump the money to buy the West Side yards, his biggest Manhattan parcel, forced the sale of a parcel to Asian developers. According to former members of the Trump Organization, Trump did not retain any ownership of the site's real estate - the owners merely promised to give him about 30 percent of the profits once the site was completely developed or sold. Until that time, the owners wanted to keep Trump on to do what he did best: build things. They gave him a modest construction fee and a management fee to oversee the development. The new owners also allowed him to put his name on the buildings that eventually rose on the yards because his well-known moniker allowed them to charge a premium for their condos.[30]

Trump was elected to the Gaming Hall of Fame in 1995.[31]

In 1995, he combined his casino holdings into the publicly held Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. Wall Street drove its stock above $35 in 1996, but by 1998 it had fallen into single digits as the company remained profitless and struggled to pay just the interest on its nearly $3 billion in debt. Under such financial pressure, the properties were unable to make the improvements necessary for keeping up with their flashier competitors.
Legal Developments 2002-2005

In January 2002, the Securities and Exchange Commission brought a financial-reporting case against Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc., alleging that it had committed several "misleading statements in the company's third-quarter 1999 earnings release." The matter was settled with the defendant neither admitting nor denying the charge. [32].

Finally, on October 21, 2004, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts announced a restructuring of its debt.[33] The plan called for Trump's individual ownership to be reduced from 56 percent to 27 percent, with bondholders receiving stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. Since then, Trump Hotels has been forced to seek voluntary bankruptcy protection to stay afloat. After the company applied for Chapter 11 Protection in November 2004, Trump relinquished his CEO position but retained a role as Chairman of the Board. In May 2005[34] the company re-emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings.[35]
Resurgence (1997–2007)

Trump has several projects under way. The level of success of the progress of the projects varies. The Trump International Hotel and Tower - Honolulu seems to be a success. According to Trump, buyers paid non-refundable deposits to commit to purchase every unit on the first day they were made available. Construction of the Trump International Hotel and Tower - Chicago seems to be proceeding as planned although 30% of the units remain unsold. The Trump International Hotel and Tower - Toronto has had a series of delays and a height reduction. The Trump Tower - Tampa has been quite controversial because the initial sales were so successful that all deposits were returned to charge a higher price. Three years after construction of this controversial development began, construction has delayed and lawsuits have been filed. In Fort Lauderdale, Florida one Trump construction project was put on hold in favor of another (Trump International Hotel and Tower - Fort Lauderdale). Meanwhile, Trump Towers - Atlanta is being developed in a housing market which has the nation's second-highest inventory of unsold homes.[36]
2008 financial crisis

Trump has been caught in the 2008 financial crisis as sales for his Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago have been lagging. Lender Deutsche Bank refused to let Trump lower the prices on the units to spur sales. [37] Arguing that the crisis is an Act of God, he invoked a clause in the contract to not pay the loan and initiated a suit asserting his image had been damaged.[37] Deutsche Bank has in turn noted in court that 'Trump is no stranger to overdue debt' and that he has twice previously filed for bankruptcy with respect to his casino operations.[37] Both parties have since agreed to drop their suits, and sales of the units is nearly complete.[citation needed]

On February 17, 2009 Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy; Trump having stated on February 13 that he would resign from the board.[38] Trump Entertainment Resorts has three properties in Atlantic City.


learning is fun!!!
 
Nothing wrong with Trump. He says a lot of things I like... for instance, the US has to stop making one-sided trade deals that hurt America. Too may pros to list.
 
I just want Trump to keep doing what he is doing. If others follow his lead if he does not make it past the gate, the better. Please, please, please, run on that platform.

Everybody will be a winner for it.
 
Who would be the ideal running mate for The Donald? What are his weaknesses that need to be plugged?

That I cannot say. Michele Bachmann? As for weaknesses, there are none. It is a winning team.
 
I voted for Obama, and about every Democrat but it's funny, neither side put any extra money in my pocket.
 
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