okay all you Meyers-Briggs brigands....

[butters]

bring it on. who are you and how accurate, in all honesty, do you feel your type is reflected in your true nature?

i'm an INFJ or an ENFJ, depending on the test site and which day i take it reading through, there does seem to be a lot of stuff that speaks to me about me. i found some indepth reading here: http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--FJ.HTM

you can take a good look at your own types and what it says about them there. how true does it ring to you?

 

[Black13]

I regularly get ENTP or INTP. I'm generally dead even on the E/I ratio. I can swing to the J side, but that's generally just when my job rubs off on me. It's pretty accurate, I think.

 

[vrosej10]

bring it on. who are you and how accurate, in all honesty, do you feel your type is reflected in your true nature?

i'm an INFJ or an ENFJ, depending on the test site and which day i take it reading through, there does seem to be a lot of stuff that speaks to me about me. i found some indepth reading here: http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--FJ.HTM

you can take a good look at your own types and what it says about them there. how true does it ring to you?

Mine's pretty close to bang on. I am more creative though than is usually considered possible with my personality type but this is probably down to education; I went to a very liberal primary school and 95% of the people in my class went on to be artists of some sort.

 

[greenmountaineer]

As I wrote in another thread, I used to train this stuff quite a bit. I'm an INFJ, no question about it.

All 3 posts allude to an important principle, strength of preference. Some extroverts, for example, are much more extroverted than other extroverts. The idea behind type development is to "move towards the middle" of the two scales, given the situation. It's not surprising that there are more intuitive (N) poets than sensing (S), citing another scale, but that's not say there aren't poets who prefer sensing over intuition, and a preference for one over another does not imply competence.

You know you're a diehard extrovert, BTW, if you take your dog to the bathroom with you, just to have someone to talk to.

 

[vrosej10]

As I wrote in another thread, I used to train this stuff quite a bit. I'm an INFJ, no question about it.

All 3 posts allude to an important principle, strength of preference. Some extroverts, for example, are much more extroverted than other extroverts. The idea behind type development is to "move towards the middle" of the two scales, given the situation. It's not surprising that there are more intuitive (N) poets than sensing (S), citing another scale, but that's not say there aren't poets who prefer sensing over intuition, and a preference for one over another does not imply competence.

You know you're a diehard extrovert, BTW, if you take your dog to the bathroom with you, just to have someone to talk to.

I actually belong to an uncommon personality group called the bubbly introvert, basically an introvert with social skills. I am good in social situations but don't really enjoy it and they exhaust me. I spend a lot of time alone.

I read this cool book a while back called Writing Dangerous Poetry which used the Myer-Briggs to discuss our poetry styles and I am the typical sensing poet in that I tend to go for objective, imagistic stuff. This book is really worth a look.

 

[butters]

As I wrote in another thread, I used to train this stuff quite a bit. I'm an INFJ, no question about it.

All 3 posts allude to an important principle, strength of preference. Some extroverts, for example, are much more extroverted than other extroverts. The idea behind type development is to "move towards the middle" of the two scales, given the situation. It's not surprising that there are more intuitive (N) poets than sensing (S), citing another scale, but that's not say there aren't poets who prefer sensing over intuition, and a preference for one over another does not imply competence.

You know you're a diehard extrovert, BTW, if you take your dog to the bathroom with you, just to have someone to talk to.

i think there's a debate, or at least a 'frank exchange of views' to be had here between yourself and twelvio ... he's calling 'phooey' over the whole shebang and lumping it in with astrology. personally, i don't see the two as remotely connected.
as for the part of your text i highlighted in bold, i just want to say "precisely".

 

[twelveoone]

i think there's a debate, or at least a 'frank exchange of views' to be had here between yourself and twelvio ... he's calling 'phooey' over the whole shebang and lumping it in with astrology. personally, i don't see the two as remotely connected.
as for the part of your text i highlighted in bold, i just want to say "precisely".

depends on where your moon is...

 

[butters]

Mates

The oracular INFJ may opt for the inventive ENTP, but also may go for a different kind of contrary, namely the ESTP. The ESTP and ENTP, to the casual observer, look pretty much alike. Charming, suave, urbane, humorous, witty, fantastically easy to approach, venturesome, even reckless. But one is out to invent, the other to promote; this is no small difference. It takes an inventor to make a mousetrap, it takes a promoter to make an enterprise. To succeed, the promoter has to be, in the best sense of the word, a con artist. He must be able to get people's confidence. Now why would a meaning-giver INFJ be intrigued by an entrepreneur ESTP? Because he wants to help the entrepreneur find his soul and his significance in the scheme of things. Similarly, why is the INFJ attracted to ENTP? Because he wishes to rescue this iconoclast from his seeming folly (and let's face it, most inventions are abortive, or still-born).

and i would say that absolutely sums up my second marriage - he was a con-artist, and not in the best sense. i, stupidly enough, on finding out some of his double-dealings and still loving him, felt my place was to help him become a more decent person through encouraging him to be the best person he could be. the art i would watch him create, and the way he had with hard landscaping, attracted me to his creative, inventive side.

shame he used so much of the inventive to affect all our lives, and the lives of all those he touched, so much and so shamefully!

 

[twelveoone]

I actually belong to an uncommon personality group called the bubbly introvert, basically an introvert with social skills. I am good in social situations but don't really enjoy it and they exhaust me. I spend a lot of time alone.

I read this cool book a while back called Writing Dangerous Poetry which used the Myer-Briggs to discuss our poetry styles and I am the typical sensing poet in that I tend to go for objective, imagistic stuff. This book is really worth a look.

Hey, this is cool. You should recommend this to Tzara. people that bought this bought...Kenneth Koch.

 

[butters]

depends on where your moon is...

how abouts here?

"M-O-O-N, that spells (insert anything you want)". Laws, yes."-Tom Cullen, at any point in The Stand.

 

[greenmountaineer]

i think there's a debate, or at least a 'frank exchange of views' to be had here between yourself and twelvio ... he's calling 'phooey' over the whole shebang and lumping it in with astrology. personally, i don't see the two as remotely connected.
as for the part of your text i highlighted in bold, i just want to say "precisely".

For the record, MBTI is based on Jung's Theory of Psychological Type.

Then again, he could have been star gazing when he thought of it.

 

[PoetGuy]

bring it on. who are you and how accurate, in all honesty, do you feel your type is reflected in your true nature?

i'm an INFJ or an ENFJ, depending on the test site and which day i take it reading through, there does seem to be a lot of stuff that speaks to me about me. i found some indepth reading here: http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--FJ.HTM

you can take a good look at your own types and what it says about them there. how true does it ring to you?

PoetGuy always tests out as INTJ, with very strong I and very strong T. Apparently this explains his sitting in corners at parties and making unfeeling comments about others. To himself, of course.

It perhaps also explains his tendency to want to get a rag and wipe the mess off the floor when someone gushes about how his or her poem was written because feelings just swelled up in them and they had to write them down.

He is fairly confident of the reliability of MBTI assessments, but rather less confident of their predictive validity. Not his area of expertise, though.

 

[twelveoone]

It perhaps also explains his tendency to want to get a rag and wipe the mess off the floor when someone gushes about how his or her poem was written because feelings just swelled up in them and they had to write them down.

You know,

we do think alike

I can't figure that one out.

 

[bronzeage]

bring it on. who are you and how accurate, in all honesty, do you feel your type is reflected in your true nature?

i'm an INFJ or an ENFJ, depending on the test site and which day i take it reading through, there does seem to be a lot of stuff that speaks to me about me. i found some indepth reading here: http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--FJ.HTM

you can take a good look at your own types and what it says about them there. how true does it ring to you?

I am ENTJ.

Being an ENTJ, I recognized the nature of the questions and could have custom trimmed my profile.

However, I answered sincerely and the profile is dead on.

 

[Angeline]

bring it on. who are you and how accurate, in all honesty, do you feel your type is reflected in your true nature?

i'm an INFJ or an ENFJ, depending on the test site and which day i take it reading through, there does seem to be a lot of stuff that speaks to me about me. i found some indepth reading here: http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--FJ.HTM

you can take a good look at your own types and what it says about them there. how true does it ring to you?

I have taken the Myers-Briggs a bunch of times. I always come out INFJ. Maybe it should be a requirement for moderating the pobo.

 

[butters]

For the record, MBTI is based on Jung's Theory of Psychological Type.

Then again, he could have been star gazing when he thought of it.

thanks for setting the record straighter in its groove, gm.
and star-gazing can be a most rewarding pastime. you see more than when peering into the navel, at least.

PoetGuy always tests out as INTJ, with very strong I and very strong T. Apparently this explains his sitting in corners at parties and making unfeeling comments about others. To himself, of course.

It perhaps also explains his tendency to want to get a rag and wipe the mess off the floor when someone gushes about how his or her poem was written because feelings just swelled up in them and they had to write them down.

He is fairly confident of the reliability of MBTI assessments, but rather less confident of their predictive validity. Not his area of expertise, though.

but at least you have the social skills to keep your conversation private *nods*

just a rag? often a mop and bucket seem ... called for.

i would doubt most, if not all, predictive testings. life has a habit of proving unpredictable.

You know,

we do think alike

I can't figure that one out.

separated at birth?

I am ENTJ.

Being an ENTJ, I recognized the nature of the questions and could have custom trimmed my profile.

However, I answered sincerely and the profile is dead on.

i think anyone with any of 'teh smarts' are able to perceive and manipulate this sort of test ... it'd be a measure of the lengths one would go to to lie to oneself if a person chose to manipulate the MB tests when trying to discover their own type.

of course, if one was an adept machiavellian and a certain 'type' was more likely to get a job by dint of specific personality traits being looked for, then it's a moot point as to how far that someone will go to achieve the desired result.

I have taken the Myers-Briggs a bunch of times. I always come out INFJ. Maybe it should be a requirement for moderating the pobo.

it's our laid back, giving, empathic natures that help fer sho', angeline (removes tongue from cheek)

 

[bronzeage]

i think anyone with any of 'teh smarts' are able to perceive and manipulate this sort of test ... it'd be a measure of the lengths one would go to to lie to oneself if a person chose to manipulate the MB tests when trying to discover their own type.

of course, if one was an adept machiavellian and a certain 'type' was more likely to get a job by dint of specific personality traits being looked for, then it's a moot point as to how far that someone will go to achieve the desired result.

The once famous Timothy Leary was a psychology professor at Harvard University. He got in a lot of trouble for advocating recreational and therapeutic use of LSD. When he was finally run to ground and sentenced to Federal Prison, he went through the standard prison system evaluations, which included a personality profile test. It just so happened, he was the author of this particular test. He skewed his answers to make himself appear docile and easily led. Once he was assigned to an minimum security facility, he waited for the right moment and walked out the door to a waiting car.

 

[butters]

The once famous Timothy Leary was a psychology professor at Harvard University. He got in a lot of trouble for advocating recreational and therapeutic use of LSD. When he was finally run to ground and sentenced to Federal Prison, he went through the standard prison system evaluations, which included a personality profile test. It just so happened, he was the author of this particular test. He skewed his answers to make himself appear docile and easily led. Once he was assigned to an minimum security facility, he waited for the right moment and walked out the door to a waiting car.

exactly.

they should have been up on that. *tsk tsk*

 

[twelveoone]

The once famous Timothy Leary was a psychology professor at Harvard University. He got in a lot of trouble for advocating recreational and therapeutic use of LSD. When he was finally run to ground and sentenced to Federal Prison, he went through the standard prison system evaluations, which included a personality profile test. It just so happened, he was the author of this particular test. He skewed his answers to make himself appear docile and easily led. Once he was assigned to an minimum security facility, he waited for the right moment and walked out the door to a waiting car.

that's 'cause HE WAS an ELSD easily led 'scapin dude.
Besides it was never conclusively the car was really there. Or the door, for that matter.

 

[butters]

that's 'cause HE WAS an ELSD easily led 'scapin dude.
Besides it was never conclusively the car was really there. Or the door, for that matter.

and we won't even mention the cat or the box...

 

[twelveoone]

and we won't even mention the cat or the box...

or Heisenberg

I think they had a contest here about Schrödinger's cat. I'm sure if you looked there maybe about 20 of them left. Which is strange considering only ten were submitted.

 

[butters]

or Heisenberg

I think they had a contest here about Schrödinger's cat. I'm sure if you looked there maybe about 20 of them left. Which is strange considering only ten were submitted.

or WW11

and *smirk*

and now i'm gone again. got to read some chapters before bed. Mistress of the Art of Death by Ariana Franklin. 12th century child murderer, Cambridge a drawn bowstring, the jews in the castle for protection and a lady doctor from Italy having to pretend not to be a lady doctor here to secretly examine the children's corpses and so on... but it's pretty good so far.

night!

 

[bronzeage]

exactly.

they should have been up on that. *tsk tsk*

that's 'cause HE WAS an ELSD easily led 'scapin dude.
Besides it was never conclusively the car was really there. Or the door, for that matter.

Whatever his personality traits may have been, he made a lot of friends and when he decide to live outside the system, he had plenty of help.

In the end, that is what really matters in life; who your friends are and what use you make of them.

 

[EroticOrogeny]

I took the test there and came out as INTJ - no surprises there.
I think I asnwered each question, but it was a poorly coded test -
shouldn;t have filled in an aswer on each. Similar tests require a response or at least inform ou if you failed to answer a question.

 

[serpentwrap]

How do you take the test? Is there a website? I guess you need to pay to take the test, right?