Your take on the King hearings...

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

"The largest single source of tips about Islamic terror attacks (48 out of 120) come from the Muslim community."

So Mr King, happy to support the blowing up of British babies, is just a liar stirring shit for political gain?

And the single largest source of people failing to connect the dots (Hassan, for example) was the party insisting upon complete political correctness in all matters with cries of racism if one does so much as ask for proof of citizenship...

What do you have against inquiries and attempts at knowledge and getting some facts into the light of day? It's not like the Democrats aren't going to get their chance to pontificate and obstruct reality during the hearings.

Nobody screamed bloody murder when they held them. Maybe it was the way that they held them...

 

[Sean]

And the single largest source of people failing to connect the dots (Hassan, for example) was the party insisting upon complete political correctness in all matters with cries of racism if one does so much as ask for proof of citizenship...

What do you have against inquiries and attempts at knowledge and getting some facts into the light of day? It's not like the Democrats aren't going to get their chance to pontificate and obstruct reality during the hearings.

Nobody screamed bloody murder when they held them. Maybe it was the way that they held them...

So I assume you were vociferous in condemning Catholic priests during the IRA bombing campaigns?

 

[busybody..]

: Islamic radicalism: The questions that Rep. Peter King is right to ask. “To ignore the religious nature of the terrorist threat is to succumb to politically correct delusion. To ignore the homegrown religious nature of the terrorist threat is to succumb even further.”

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Decades ago Marshall McLuhan observed, "The medium is the message." As the print and electronic media penetrate more and more every aspect of life, their influence increases greatly in shaping views and the behavior of the public. The power of the media is a mixed blessing. On one hand, it can serve to expose injustices, wrongdoings, and flaws. On the other hand, it is able to propagate misinformation and outright disinformation.

Manipulation and control of the media is of critical importance to the rule of totalitarian states. Free societies, although less subject to laundered information, are still at considerable risk of being selectively informed or misinformed outright. The overlords of the media can deceive the public more easily when political correctness is used as a subterfuge for the promotion of certain ideas.

A case in point is the media's portrayal of Islam, articulated by politicians and pundits -- the talking heads on television and radio, as well as the analysts who write for newspapers and magazines. Time and again we hear and read that Islam is a religion of peace, in spite of the fact that Islam has been a religion of violence from its inception to the present. This mantra, "Islam is a religion of peace" is repeated so often that it has become an indisputable statement of fact in the minds of many.

Even a cursory examination of Islam's history and Islamic texts conclusively proves the exact opposite. Islam was, and continues to be, a movement of unbridled violence.

...

The pundits, the analysts and the politicians are doing a great disservice to the public, each segment for its own expedient reasons, by parroting the mantra regarding the peaceful nature of Islam. As a matter of fact, the so-called small band of Islamic extremists is the true face of Islam. Admittedly, from time to time and place to place, Muslims have shown a degree of tolerance for non-Muslims. This tolerance dates back to the very early years of Muhammad himself. Early on Muhammad was meek and proclaimed, "For you, your religion, and for me, my religion." This assertion lasted but a few years until Muhammad's movement gathered strength and Islam became the only alternative to death or heavy taxation. The imposition of 'jizya' was a clever ploy for filling the Islamic coffer to support its armies and to finance its further conquests.

The liberal media and pundits engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits them. Terms such as "Political Islam," or "Radical Islam," for instance, are contributions of this group. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter -- the Quran -- is a radical political movement. It is the liberal media and politicians who sanitize Islam and misguide the populace by saying that "real Islam" constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non-political and moderate.

Regrettably, a large segment of the population goes along with these nonsensical euphemisms depicting Islam because it prefers to believe them. It is less threatening to believe that only a hijacked small segment of Islam is radical or politically driven and that the main body of Islam is indeed moderate and non-political.

We must recognize that Islam is political to the core. In Islam the mosque and State are one and the same -- the mosque is the State. This arrangement goes back to the days of Muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even "moderate" Islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds. Muslims believe that all non-Muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well deserve being maltreated compared to believers.

Amil Imani
The American Thinker
Saying what the Leftist press dares not, and connecting all the dots...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

So I assume you were vociferous in condemning Catholic priests during the IRA bombing campaigns?

Red Herring

Not worthy of rebuttal.

Ex: Were you busy blasting Protestant clergy when the Klan was burning crosses?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

: Islamic radicalism: The questions that Rep. Peter King is right to ask. “To ignore the religious nature of the terrorist threat is to succumb to politically correct delusion. To ignore the homegrown religious nature of the terrorist threat is to succumb even further.”

Overcoming the willful ignorance of ignoring that which intrudes upon the illusion of "peace" with a quote.

 

[busybody..]

Nidal SCREAMS

ALLAH AKBAR as he kills

Writes PAPERS talking about BEHEADING INFIDELS

ETC ETC

We STILL dont know his MOTIVE

We MUST not PRE JUDGE

Tea party is RACIST!

 

[RobDownSouth]

They're just a hapless, secular, happy-go-lucky group of community organizers...

England has worked with them...

RED HERRING
__________________
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Or are you just hateful, angry rhetoric?
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Throb thread:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=745068

Not a red herring at all. It's entirely relevant to the hearings. King has singled out Muslims for the the "treatment", essentially holding all Muslims responsible for the actions of their fringe brethren, when King in fact supported the fringe brethren of Christianity in the I.R.A.

I'm pointing out the utter hypocrisy of Peter King, but this doesn't fit your predetermined "narrative of the morning", so you're trying to discredit my point by claiming "red herring".

S'okay, though, we're used to you doing that.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Nidal SCREAMS

ALLAH AKBAR as he kills

Writes PAPERS talking about BEHEADING INFIDELS

ETC ETC

We STILL dont know his MOTIVE

We MUST not PRE JUDGE

Tea party is RACIST!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Not a red herring at all. It's entirely relevant to the hearings. King has singled out Muslims for the the "treatment", essentially holding all Muslims responsible for the actions of their fringe brethren, when King in fact supported the fringe brethren of Christianity in the I.R.A.

I'm pointing out the utter hypocrisy of Peter King, but this doesn't fit your predetermined "narrative of the morning", so you're trying to discredit my point by claiming "red herring".

S'okay, though, we're used to you doing that.

Yeah, we have learned that when one cannot argue factually, or logically, one begins hurling that serious charge of "HYPOCRISY."

Like the HYPOCRISY of announcing the closing of Gitmo, and then arguing how necessary it is to keep it open...



Then again, hypocrisy always seems to be a one-way street and the favored epithet of the fleebagger....

Now, lay some more of your naked enthusiastic racism on us...
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Throb thread:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=745068

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Now, for those of us who don't get our marching orders from the NY Times and The New Republic:

Howard Kudler who is opposing Congressman Peter King, on Long Island, has launched an astonishing attack on King calling him a terrorist collaborator because of his links with Sinn Féin.

Kudler has about as much chance as the local dogcatcher has of taking King’s seat and this last second broadside is a pathetic attempt to blacken King.

It is a classic low blow, expressed without any knowledge whatever of King’s significant role in bringing Sinn Féin to the negotiating table, and an attempt to smear him with the terrorist label.

Let me be clear on this, Peter King for well over two decades was the only significant American political figure to deal with Sinn Féin and to understand the complexity of the situation in Northern Ireland.

King played an absolutely huge role in getting the Clinton White House involved in the Irish peace negotiations and he never shirked the hard task of making Sinn Féin completely aware of what America needed from them.

Far from encouraging terrorism King helped end Europe's longest war of the twentieth century and can stand up and be very proud of his achievement.

Niall O'Dowd
http://www.irishcentral.com/story/n...-king-over-ira-links-will-fail-105846888.html

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yeah, we have learned that when one cannot argue factually, or logically, one begins hurling that serious charge of "HYPOCRISY." Like the HYPOCRISY of announcing the closing of Gitmo, and then arguing how necessary it is to keep it open...

Then again, hypocrisy always seems to be a one-way street and the favored epithet of the fleebagger....
Now, lay some more of your naked enthusiastic racism on us...
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Or are you just hateful, angry rhetoric?
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Throb thread:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=745068

Oh dear, It would appear I have struck a rather sensitive nerve with you this morning.

That's okay, you just pretend like what I said about Peter King's obvious hypocrisy doesn't matter. Like you said earlier, King was justified pallin' around with I.R.A. and Sinn Fein terrorists because the situation was "complex"...it's an altogether different story when we're demonizin' Muslims, right? Black and white, no shades of gray here, nossir. Classic Ayn Rand "either/or" scenario: "Either you're a Muslim and you support terra-ism, or you're not and you don't".

So very much different from the nuances of proper white English terrorism!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

So, when present with facts, you just turn up the sputter...





Wipe your chin there racist.

 

[Wok]

Hearings start 9:30 AM ET on C-Span 3.

I got my popcorn.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Hearings start 9:30 AM ET on C-Span 3.

I got my popcorn.

I got popcorn, but I'll be watching the roundball...

 

[Wok]

I got popcorn, but I'll be watching the roundball...

I see.

 

[busybody..]

NYT’s Nicholas Kristof Concerned King Hearings May Offend Muslims In “Radical Mosques”…

So not only does the existence of radical mosques in America not concern Kristof, he’s actually worried about offending them.

I’m sure that at mosques around this country, especially the more radical mosques, this is going to be seen as one more evidence that people are picking on us.

 

[busybody..]

MEANWHILE


CAIR Caught On Tape Warning Muslims Against Cooperating with FBI at Same Mosque Obama Spokesman Visited March 6

In a concerted attempt to stay on message in attacking the Homeland Security Committee hearings on radicalization of Muslims, on March 6 the White House put out the same message being pushed by radical leftist Max Blumenthal, pseudo-conservative Muslim Brotherhood associate Suhail Khan, and others in the red-green alliance. They sent Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough to speak at the ADAMS (All Dulles Area Muslim Society) mosque in Sterling, Virginia to politicize and undermine the Committee’s hearings. Sticking to the script, McDonough argued against linking Islamic Jihad doctrine with Jihadist terrorism: “For example, we know there are many different reasons why individuals – from many different faiths – succumb to terrorist ideologies… we risk feeding the very feelings of disenchantment that may push some members of that community to violent extremism.” In other words merely thinking and speaking about the threat of Jihad is itself the cause of the rising tide of Jihadist “violent extremism.”

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

NYT’s Nicholas Kristof Concerned King Hearings May Offend Muslims In “Radical Mosques”…

So not only does the existence of radical mosques in America not concern Kristof, he’s actually worried about offending them.

I’m sure that at mosques around this country, especially the more radical mosques, this is going to be seen as one more evidence that people are picking on us.

So very typical of the Left's inherent logical conflicts in denying that Muslims can be anything other than Baptists...




... even though the Baptists are an evil lot that want to impose their values on us...

 

[busybody..]

So very typical of the Left's inherent logical conflicts in denying that Muslims can be anything other than Baptists...




... even though the Baptists are an evil lot that want to impose their values on us...

what he is saying is that THERE ARE RADICAL MOOSEFUCK HOUSES and WE CANT PISS EM OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How bout rounding them up and JAILING EM???????????????

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

MEANWHILE


CAIR Caught On Tape Warning Muslims Against Cooperating with FBI at Same Mosque Obama Spokesman Visited March 6

In a concerted attempt to stay on message in attacking the Homeland Security Committee hearings on radicalization of Muslims, on March 6 the White House put out the same message being pushed by radical leftist Max Blumenthal, pseudo-conservative Muslim Brotherhood associate Suhail Khan, and others in the red-green alliance. They sent Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough to speak at the ADAMS (All Dulles Area Muslim Society) mosque in Sterling, Virginia to politicize and undermine the Committee’s hearings. Sticking to the script, McDonough argued against linking Islamic Jihad doctrine with Jihadist terrorism: “For example, we know there are many different reasons why individuals – from many different faiths – succumb to terrorist ideologies… we risk feeding the very feelings of disenchantment that may push some members of that community to violent extremism.” In other words merely thinking and speaking about the threat of Jihad is itself the cause of the rising tide of Jihadist “violent extremism.”

They must be behind Sean's curve as related to the valuable tips coming out of the Islamic community...

 

[RobDownSouth]

So, when present with facts, you just turn up the sputter...Wipe your chin there racist.

The "fact" you continue to conveniently overlook is Peter King's support of the I.R.A.

Who knew that there were "good terrorists" and "bad terrorists"?

 

[JoeRockStar]

King has bent over backwards to show that he's NOT going after peaceful Muslims in the US. This NEEDS to be done, radical Islam is without a doubt THE BIGGEST threat to the US. 53% of the country and most cops & feds are 100% in favor of these hearings.

I simply cannot comprehend why liberals constantly defend a radical group that wants nothing more than for ANYONE with an opposing view to DIE? I'm speaking of RADICALS, NOT peaceful Muslims. Not to mention they are the WORST human rights violators in the world.

 

[busybody..]

I simply cannot comprehend why liberals constantly defend a radical group that wants nothing more than for ANYONE with an opposing view to DIE? I'm speaking of RADICALS, NOT peaceful Muslims. Not to mention they are the WORST human rights violators in the world.

indeed

 

[Liar]

King has bent over backwards to show that he's NOT going after peaceful Muslims in the US. This NEEDS to be done, radical Islam is without a doubt THE BIGGEST threat to the US. 53% of the country and most cops & feds are 100% in favor of these hearings.

I simply cannot comprehend why liberals constantly defend a radical group that wants nothing more than for ANYONE with an opposing view to DIE? I'm speaking of RADICALS, NOT peaceful Muslims. Not to mention they are the WORST human rights violators in the world.

So there will not be any argument or insinuation in the hearings along the lines that peaceful non-radical muslims have a resposibility to prove they're not radical, denounce radicalism and take the lead in fighting terrorists and terrorist sympathisers?

...you know, on account of them also praying to Mecca. Or something.

We'll see about that. I'll believe it when I hear it. Or rather, not hear it.

King has bent over backwards to claim that he's not going after peaceful Muslims in the US. But he is after all a politician. So I trust him as far as I can throw his disctrict.