Elton John had a BABY

Elton John didn't have the baby. A surrogate mother had the baby - in California.

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Yeah. yeah, yeah, I know, Ogg, the Ukraine turned them down for an adoption, but if two guys raising a baby doesn't curdle your buttermilk, then nothing will.

By the way, some of Elton Johns songs are fantastic and in my music files...so what?

ami
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Two men raising a baby doesn't bother me. Two women raising a baby doesn't bother. A man and a woman raising a baby doesn't bother me. A man, woman, grandparents, aunts and uncles raising a baby doesn't other me.

Is the child loved? Fed, clothed, sheltered, nurtured, taught, and supported? Is the child praised and rewarded for doing right, corrected for doing wrong? Do they know their family loves them, and is there to support them?

I don't care who raises a child, as long as they raise the child. I'm a whole lot more disturbed by the children who go to bed hungry, who are neglected, abused, starved for affection and love, left out on the streets like feral animals.

Stop worrying about what someone has in their bed, and start worrying about what's in their hearts, and this country might actually improve to civilized standards.
 
Poor Ami! What a string of helpless ranting!

Are we seeing dementia setting in?

If so, how long will he retain his typing skills? We can only hope not for too much longer...
 
Yeah. yeah, yeah, I know, Ogg, the Ukraine turned them down for an adoption, but if two guys raising a baby doesn't curdle your buttermilk, then nothing will.

By the way, some of Elton Johns songs are fantastic and in my music files...so what?

ami
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Two dudes raising a baby happens daily in divorced North American families. I was raised by my dad and also my step-dad. What's the problem? :p
 
Come on Stella...

Poor Ami! What a string of helpless ranting!

Are we seeing dementia setting in?

If so, how long will he retain his typing skills? We can only hope not for too much longer...

... can't you see Ami and his friend (James?) changing diapers on a 2 month old baby girl ?

Come visualize with me Stel.. James turns to Ami or vice versa ..."where the hell is the instruction manual on this model?"












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Damn, internet explorer shut down in the middle of composing a Post...

Let me see if I can repeat it....Ah, Loring, sheesh...by the way, I left you a note on the Abby, 'Turkey Trot' thread...

Being the oldest of six, I was changing diapers when I was ten and cooking for the family when my mother was ill. I will admit that when cloth diapers and safety pins were replaced by the disposables, that I put a few on backwards, or so my daughter said, looked fine to me..ain't velcro neat?

So...siblings, children and grandchildren, thousands and thousands of changes, go suck a sour pickle.

:)

Ami, the guy Heinlein was writing about....
 
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Ami, Heinlein was writing about himself.

You have the same fat ego as the self-aggrandising writers you love, but your biggest talent is for piggy-backing yourself onto someone with more fame than you.
 
Damn, internet explorer shut down in the middle of composing a Post...

Let me see if I can repeat it....Ah, Loring, sheesh...by the way, I left you a note on the Abby, 'Turkey Trot' thread...

Being the oldest of six, I was changing diapers when I was ten and cooking for the family when my mother was ill. I will admit that when cloth diapers and safety pins were replaced by the disposables, that I put a few on backwards, or so my daughter said, looked fine to me..ain't velcro neat?\

So...siblings, children and grandchildren, thousands and thousands of changes, go suck a pickle.\

:)

Ami, the guy Heinlein was writing about....

Here you are, raised on buttermilk in a heterosexual household and look how you turned out.

Could too gay guys do worse?
 
Well, well, well...most of you are so blindered with your moral perceptions or lack of them\, carved in stone, that you won't even acknowledge that this is a complex issue with many sides and even one dead opposite of yours.

Yet you continue to pillory and pummel anyone with an opposing opinion to the degree that few will even contest your ignorant supercilious attitude that you have an 'absolute' moral answer, even when you deny there are any moral absolutes.

I raised that little girl up there on the left, sitting on my arm, from the time she was born until about three years of age. I walked her to sleep at night a hundred times, bottle fed her, burped her and changed her and she used to pull on my beard as she fell off to sleep to Sergio Mendes and Herby Mann playing on my computer.

That little girl knows, and learned from the beginning that I am a man; I'm not all soft and squishy like a woman, I smell different, gee, even my voice is lower than her mother's.

If you are so blinded by your faith and so dependent on your belief as to not see my side of the argument, then I indeed pity the children you are going to destroy, by definition, and leave them, at best, gender uncertain and marked for life.

And don't even offer the bullshit about 'extended family', you don't have one and don't believe in one and would reject them anyway in your arrogant and narcissistic self indulgence.

A new grand-daughter came into this world at 7:45 this morning, they are calling her, Maisey...I think....egads....

But she has a mom and a dad, who are actually married and live together, god forbid; heresy!

You folks are sick, real sick. Get help.

Amicus
 
I think it is fantastic news...oh, and the Ukraine turning them down on adopting a HIV baby was based on stereotypical and discriminatory grounds, and after all that, Elton andDavid are financially supporting that child and his brother so they will be sure they have food, clothing, medicine, and education and whatever else they may need in life. Sounds to me like they will make much better parents than many who procreate without thought but hide behind a marriage licence and heterosexuality as grounds for good parenting.

Catalina:cattail:
 
Two men raising a baby doesn't bother me. Two women raising a baby doesn't bother. A man and a woman raising a baby doesn't bother me. A man, woman, grandparents, aunts and uncles raising a baby doesn't other me.

Is the child loved? Fed, clothed, sheltered, nurtured, taught, and supported? Is the child praised and rewarded for doing right, corrected for doing wrong? Do they know their family loves them, and is there to support them?

I don't care who raises a child, as long as they raise the child. I'm a whole lot more disturbed by the children who go to bed hungry, who are neglected, abused, starved for affection and love, left out on the streets like feral animals.

Stop worrying about what someone has in their bed, and start worrying about what's in their hearts, and this country might actually improve to civilized standards.

You used the words I or me some half a dozen times in this short post. Your point of view might be better received if you always put the child first.

Both heterosexual and homosexual parents are too I and me by far.
 
Well, well, well...most of you are so blindered with your moral perceptions or lack of them\, carved in stone, that you won't even acknowledge that this is a complex issue with many sides and even one dead opposite of yours.
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I raised that little girl up there on the left, sitting on my arm, from the time she was born until about three years of age. I walked her to sleep at night a hundred times, bottle fed her, burped her and changed her and she used to pull on my beard as she fell off to sleep to Sergio Mendes and Herby Mann playing on my computer.

...
You folks are sick, real sick. Get help.

Amicus

Another example of just how bad the influences can be and still have a positive outcome.
 
What? You don't like Herbie Mann?

;)

ami

oops, Herbie Mann
 
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I raised that little girl up there on the left, sitting on my arm, from the time she was born until about three years of age. I walked her to sleep at night a hundred times, bottle fed her, burped her and changed her and she used to pull on my beard as she fell off to sleep to Sergio Mendes and Herby Mann playing on my computer.

That little girl knows, and learned from the beginning that I am a man; I'm not all soft and squishy like a woman, I smell different, gee, even my voice is lower than her mother's.
You better not have fucked her, you sick bastard.
I am so blinded by my faith and so dependent on my belief as to not see any other side of the argument, then you should pity the children I am going to destroy, by definition, and leave them, at best, gender uncertain and marked for life.
I don't think you have to worry about your kids, honey. You've said yourself that most of them barely listen to you. Your fucked up mind can be an object lesson for them-- a good example of how to avoid misery, by not being you.
And don't even offer the bullshit about 'extended family', I don't have one and don't believe in one and would reject them anyway in my arrogant and narcissistic self indulgence.
You don't have a Lear Jet either, or mental health, But those things exist anyway. The world is not defined by you.
A new grand-daughter came into this world at 7:45 this morning, they are calling her, Maisey...I think....egads....

But she has a mom and a dad, who are actually married and live together, god forbid; heresy!
What's wrong with a married family raising their own children? Happens all the time.
You folks are sick, real sick. Get help.

Amicus
says the pedophile.
 
When is that sweet girl on your lap going to learn you are a pedophile, Ami? I hope later rather than sooner (or already). You're disgusting. And using her in an avatar on a porn discussion board. Just disgusting.
 
Colddiesel, I do believe Ami wanted to know what we, as individuals, felt on the issue. I have three kids- love them to death. Their father is sitting over in his recliner right now. How my children are raised by us is not the question here- the question is, what's wrong with the world when people are more concerend about what kind of genitalia the parents have, rather than what kind of parents they are?

I'm pretty sure a child would rather have a family that loves and supports and cares for their needs than a family that is dysfunctional and doesn't love, support or care for them. And I don't think that child would care if it was Dad and Dad, Mom and Mom, or Mom and Dad.
 
When is that sweet girl on your lap going to learn you are a pedophile, Ami? I hope later rather than sooner (or already). You're disgusting. And using her in an avatar on a porn discussion board. Just disgusting.
I agree, utterly inappropriate to compromise one's children's privacy by showing their faces on literotica.

Dementia. Gotta be.
 
The only thing that bothers me is his age. Is someone 63 years old ready to take care of a baby? I'll give you Elton is most likely in better shape than me, But I would hate to think of raising a baby now at 52. Maybe my reasoning is off because I raised my child when I was younger and now helping with Grandchildren. As long as the child is truley Loved what more could you ask for?.
 
The only thing that bothers me is his age. Is someone 63 years old ready to take care of a baby? I'll give you Elton is most likely in better shape than me, But I would hate to think of raising a baby now at 52. Maybe my reasoning is off because I raised my child when I was younger and now helping with Grandchildren. As long as the child is truley Loved what more could you ask for?.

Inheriting $40 million at age 20?
 
Colddiesel, I do believe Ami wanted to know what we, as individuals, felt on the issue. I have three kids- love them to death. Their father is sitting over in his recliner right now. How my children are raised by us is not the question here- the question is, what's wrong with the world when people are more concerend about what kind of genitalia the parents have, rather than what kind of parents they are?

I'm pretty sure a child would rather have a family that loves and supports and cares for their needs than a family that is dysfunctional and doesn't love, support or care for them. And I don't think that child would care if it was Dad and Dad, Mom and Mom, or Mom and Dad.[/
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My keyboard doesn't spell as well as it used to and, believe it or not, some of the keys have faded from use...egads...a new keyboard perhaps?

It isn't the genitalia, FallingToFly, it is human psychology, hard wired into male and female with homosexuality being classified a mental disorder until the Hippy generation corrupted the discipline. (see 1973, DSM IV, I think).

I once decked a fat woman in a supermarket because she was pulling a screaming child down the aisle by the hair, so yes, dysfunctional people exist and are not just limited to the heterosexual world.

Homosexuality has been around forever, I question why you are so intent on destroying traditional marriage, when all of history is against you?

Amicus
 
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