NCIS new episode, Abby, the Turkey Trot!

[amicus]

Just had to share this...although the screening is dark, perhaps someone can fight a better one or change the contrast...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uICUBmg5Bs

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/ncis/100320

Pauley Perrette plays that role so well...I can't think of another actress in the right age category who could even touch her.

Sorry, Perverts, she is not underage.

amicus

 

[Bebeslut]

I love Abby -- she's reason I started watching that show -- but she's got serious daddy issues with Gibbs!

 

[Carnevil9]

Funny thing about NCIS - I usually remember the character issues (Abby and the Turkey Trot; Tony being all serious, etc.) far better than I remember the actual mystery! Not that that is a bad thing, of course.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Part of my work is forensics, so I really only watch for the characters and the humour.

 

[Bebeslut]

Funny thing about NCIS - I usually remember the character issues (Abby and the Turkey Trot; Tony being all serious, etc.) far better than I remember the actual mystery! Not that that is a bad thing, of course.

Their plots and techniques are absurd; the characters are the ONLY thing about the show that's worthwhile.

Abby was the hook; the interplay between DiNozzo and David was next; then the interplay between DiNozzo and all the other characters.

And, of course, I'm so old, I remember David McCallum as Ilya Kuryakin from The Man from U.N.C.L.E.!

 

[Stella_Omega]

My fanfic friends produce a varitable outpouring of Gibbs/Tony slash. And Abbey/Tony, and Abby/Gibbs, and some enlightened pens offer Abby/Tony/Gibbs.

Gotta agree with Carney, the show is unusually Character-dev heavy!

 

[JackLuis]

Characters make the show, the plots are okay, some are good, but the character interaction is what makes it great.

A lesson to all of us.

 

[amicus]

Sheesh....(izzat a woid?) Everyone I have ever known, including my offspring, slap me uplongside da head when I diagnose a movie they and I, are watching.

From what has been commented so far, youse guys don't have a clue about NCIS.

The writing, humor and plots are par excellance, hands down the best written and acted serial shows on television.

As I just wrote on another thread, 'plot, plot, plot', is the quintessential ingredient for any successful story. Only those not concurrent with world affairs could judge the 'plots' of NCIS as inconsequential: just as "24", the plot is the theme and the reason and purpose that gives life to the characters.

Beyond that, there is the magic of the producers and directors, and yes, the writers, who, like in Mash, Northern Exposure, The West Wing, StarTrek Tng, have written and brought together, a family of actors and actresses, that become an existent entity all to themselves.

It is a shame to see otherwise intelligent commentators on this forum, fail to see the brilliance of the plots because they reflect current Islamic Terrorism, Military and Intelligence corruption and espionage as the themes because of your political persuasions.

Just like Jack Bauer of "24", and Leroy Jethro Gibbs of NCIS, those heroic characters are All American, and you don't have the intestinal fortitude, (Guts) to acknowledge that the PLOT of both series, by their overwhelming popularity, are the antithesis' of your convictions.

I detest the Dinozzo(sp) character, I pity the geekster, Mc. 'Proby' who takes the brunt of the comedic humor, I smile at the feminist embodiment of the Power Puff girls in Ziva David, the changing 'Directors' from Lauren Holly to the Black Dude was well crafted and co-incided with the inception of NCIS LA, and that tiny little broad, ...damn...her name won't pop at the moment...director....that is a real stretch of the imagination.

I have written plays before, I have been on stage before, I have directed and produced plays before, so fuck you; your politics befuddles whatever sense or artistic integrity you may have had.

But 'Gibbs', is my kinda man...fuck you again.

Amicus

 

[Bebeslut]

Huh?

BTW, you haven't the foggiest notion of my politics, aside from the fact that I hate demogogues such as O'Reilly and Gingrich.

Sheesh....(izzat a woid?) Everyone I have ever known, including my offspring, slap me uplongside da head when I diagnose a movie they and I, are watching.

From what has been commented so far, youse guys don't have a clue about NCIS.

The writing, humor and plots are par excellance, hands down the best written and acted serial shows on television.

As I just wrote on another thread, 'plot, plot, plot', is the quintessential ingredient for any successful story. Only those not concurrent with world affairs could judge the 'plots' of NCIS as inconsequential: just as "24", the plot is the theme and the reason and purpose that gives life to the characters.

Beyond that, there is the magic of the producers and directors, and yes, the writers, who, like in Mash, Northern Exposure, The West Wing, StarTrek Tng, have written and brought together, a family of actors and actresses, that become an existent entity all to themselves.

It is a shame to see otherwise intelligent commentators on this forum, fail to see the brilliance of the plots because they reflect current Islamic Terrorism, Military and Intelligence corruption and espionage as the themes because of your political persuasions.

Just like Jack Bauer of "24", and Leroy Jethro Gibbs of NCIS, those heroic characters are All American, and you don't have the intestinal fortitude, (Guts) to acknowledge that the PLOT of both series, by their overwhelming popularity, are the antithesis' of your convictions.

I detest the Dinozzo(sp) character, I pity the geekster, Mc. 'Proby' who takes the brunt of the comedic humor, I smile at the feminist embodiment of the Power Puff girls in Ziva David, the changing 'Directors' from Lauren Holly to the Black Dude was well crafted and co-incided with the inception of NCIS LA, and that tiny little broad, ...damn...her name won't pop at the moment...director....that is a real stretch of the imagination.

I have written plays before, I have been on stage before, I have directed and produced plays before, so fuck you; your politics befuddles whatever sense or artistic integrity you may have had.

But 'Gibbs', is my kinda man...fuck you again.

Amicus

 

[Zobor]

I love Abby -- she's reason I started watching that show -- but she's got serious daddy issues with Gibbs!

Same reason I got hooked on it.

 

[sr71plt]

Stopped watching. The plots got boring and unbelievable. And NCIS LA has started out at the nadir point of the original.

 

[DeeZire]

....I have written plays before, I have been on stage before, I have directed and produced plays before, so fuck you; your politics befuddles whatever sense or artistic integrity you may have had.

But 'Gibbs', is my kinda man...fuck you again.

Amicus

Is that why you didn't pay your taxes for 40 years, because you were too busy acting and directing and producing and writing plays? Or is it because you lived below the poverty line for 40 years, acting and directing and producing plays for free? I would commend you if it was the latter, although the fact that you could never rise above the level of free local community theater does reflect poorly on your abilities as an actor, directer, producer and playwright.

It does not surprise me that Gibbs is your hero, Ami. Gibbs is indeed a true man's man - a guy who goes around slapping people on the back of the head to assert his manliness. The only problem is, he's asserting his manliness like a girl. Plus, he's got a freakin' sailboat in his basement. I thought only rich liberals rode around in sailboats. No wait, there was that CEO guy from BP with the sailboat, and he's far from a liberal, although he is quite rich, so perhaps having a sailboat in your basement is acceptable with the Manly Conservative Man's Man crowd - as long as it's made of wood and there's a bottle of bourbon hidden in it.

For my money, the best writing on network TV is 30 Rock. NCIS is, indeed clever, with clever character development, and clever dialogue, and clever plot twists, and Abby, the cleverist of all, but clever only gets me so far before I grow tired of "clever" and start yearning for Tina Fey pulling her pants down so she can piss in a flower vase and make her roommate move out.

 

[Carnevil9]

I do like NCIS, and watch it religiously (oops! is that a bad word hereabouts?), but I do have a quibble: I think that Mark Harmon is too much of a pretty-boy for the character of Gibbs.

Don't get me wrong! I love the character of Gibbs, and I think Harmon does a great job with it, as far as he can. But I think the character would be even better rendered with a more grizzled, ugly, street-scarred actor, like maybe Sam Elliot or Brian Dennehy or Lance Henrickson. Just a thought! YMMV!!......Carney

 

[amicus]

Gotta disagree, Carney, Harmon is, in my eyes, the perfect fit for the role. Sam Eliot...hmmm...maybe...Tom Berringer...nah, Gibbs is somewhat tempered by his mentor, Franks, (forgot his first name), and Gibbs, facing down the Director, time after time, even bucking policy maker's at MTAC, I miss "24", but that was a one-man show centered around Jack Bauer; NCIS is a 'family', and yeah, I suppose Gibbs is the 'daddy', but in terms of the guiding force and the unemotional intellect that naturally places him in the role of 'leader' of the pack.

Gibbs, with his penchant for Redheads and his 'boat in the basement', hook, is just delightful.

I would probably have Gibbs being a 'smoker', like Franks, but the fucking PC left would have a hissy fit.



ami

 

[Loring2]

A good one huh?

Sheesh....(izzat a woid?) Everyone I have ever known, including my offspring, slap me uplongside da head when I diagnose a movie they and I, are watching.

From what has been commented so far, youse guys don't have a clue about NCIS.

The writing, humor and plots are par excellance, hands down the best written and acted serial shows on television.

Beyond that, there is the magic of the producers and directors, and yes, the writers, who, like in Mash, Northern Exposure, The West Wing, StarTrek Tng, have written and brought together, a family of actors and actresses, that become an existent entity all to themselves.

It is a shame to see otherwise intelligent commentators on this forum, fail to see the brilliance of the plots because they reflect current Islamic Terrorism, Military and Intelligence corruption and espionage as the themes because of your political persuasions.

Just like Jack Bauer of "24", and Leroy Jethro Gibbs of NCIS, those heroic characters are All American, and you don't have the intestinal fortitude, (Guts) to acknowledge that the PLOT of both series, by their overwhelming popularity, are the antithesis' of your convictions.

I detest the Dinozzo(sp) character, I pity the geekster, Mc. 'Proby' who takes the brunt of the comedic humor, I smile at the feminist embodiment of the Power Puff girls in Ziva David, the changing 'Directors' from Lauren Holly to the Black Dude was well crafted and co-incided with the inception of NCIS LA, and that tiny little broad, ...damn...her name won't pop at the moment...director....that is a real stretch of the imagination.

I have written plays before, I have been on stage before, I have directed and produced plays before, so fuck you; your politics befuddles whatever sense or artistic integrity you may have had.

But 'Gibbs', is my kinda man...fuck you again.

Amicus

Aw Amicus ... you don't like Tony DiNozzo ... tsk tsk. He gets more fan mail than anyone else. He plays a tough role. Just try being a highly campetant smart ass some day.

Thanks for the praise though because I count mtself as one of the NCIS/Washington team. At least I was from iits nception until January of this year as a writer. I do dialogue better than anyone else you know.

We always strove to make it the best police procedural on the air. Yup that's all it is, a police procedural.

Somebody kills a sailor or a marine and NCIS has to find the killer. There is no plot and in a sense no mystery. It becomes a battle of wits, a protagonist and an antagonist with a number of false antagonists, red herrings if you will, to create an aura of mystery on the fly plot.

At least 1 person has mentioned that the techniques and methods used in the program are sloppy; to which I say: If you can do better, Hollywood is dying to hear from you.

I also recall some back casting here. This or that tough guy should be Gibbs but if he were then NCIS wouldn't be what it is and the producers have worked hard to make it almost exactly what it is.

In defense of Mark Harmon, who really doesn't need defense, he works harder than anyone else. He's a talented guy. QB at UCLA and in the NFL who at 60 can do the physical things reqjuired.

He also comes from great stock Ami, his dad was Tom Harmon, All-American tailback at the Univ. of Mich back in the late '30s and a WWII Ace fighter pilot and his Mommy was Eloise Knox. Mark never gives up on anything.

As for me, I often found it difficult to concentrate when Pablo deCote wore tight
pants.

David McCallum contends that she restores youth. David is 78, another trooper. Good cast good writers, great production staff.

How the hell else do you make Santa Clarita California look like Northern Virginia and make sense of the whole thing in 48 minutes.

Oh, by the way "that little broad" is named Linda Hunt

 

[amicus]

Aw Amicus ... you don't like Tony DiNozzo ... tsk tsk. He gets more fan mail than anyone else. He plays a tough role. Just try being a highly campetant smart ass some day.

Thanks for the praise though because I count mtself as one of the NCIS/Washington team. At least I was from iits nception until January of this year as a writer. I do dialogue better than anyone else you know.

We always strove to make it the best police procedural on the air. Yup that's all it is, a police procedural.

Somebody kills a sailor or a marine and NCIS has to find the killer. There is no plot and in a sense no mystery. It becomes a battle of wits, a protagonist and an antagonist with a number of false antagonists, red herrings if you will, to create an aura of mystery on the fly plot.

At least 1 person has mentioned that the techniques and methods used in the program are sloppy; to which I say: If you can do better, Hollywood is dying to hear from you.

I also recall some back casting here. This or that tough guy should be Gibbs but if he were then NCIS wouldn't be what it is and the producers have worked hard to make it almost exactly what it is.

In defense of Mark Harmon, who really doesn't need defense, he works harder than anyone else. He's a talented guy. QB at UCLA and in the NFL who at 60 can do the physical things reqjuired.

He also comes from great stock Ami, his dad was Tom Harmon, All-American tailback at the Univ. of Mich back in the late '30s and a WWII Ace fighter pilot and his Mommy was Eloise Knox. Mark never gives up on anything.

As for me, I often found it difficult to concentrate when Pablo deCote wore tight
pants.

David McCallum contends that she restores youth. David is 78, another trooper. Good cast good writers, great production staff.

How the hell else do you make Santa Clarita California look like Northern Virginia and make sense of the whole thing in 48 minutes.

Oh, by the way "that little broad" is named Linda Hunt

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God! I love this forum...where else can I converse with one of the writers from NCIS!

Thanks for the praise though because I count mtself as one of the NCIS/Washington team. At least I was from iits nception until January of this year as a writer. I do dialogue better than anyone else you know.

Hey! My dialogue don't suck either! smiles...

Loring, you da man!

I remembered Linda Hunts name after I posted...didn't bother to go back and fix it.

María José de Pablo Fernández better known as Coté de Pablo (born November 12, 1979) is a Chilean-American actress and recording artist. De Pablo has been nominated for the ALMA Award for her permanent role as the NCIS Federal Agent Ziva David in the television series, NCIS (formerly a liaison to NCIS for the Israeli Mossad). She has also embarked on a career as a songwriter and vocalist.[1]

I thought there was something wrong in the way you typed, 'Cote de Pablo', so I had to look...and yes, I watch her tight little ass as well...

Somebody kills a sailor or a marine and NCIS has to find the killer. There is no plot and in a sense no mystery. It becomes a battle of wits, a protagonist and an antagonist with a number of false antagonists, red herrings if you will, to create an aura of mystery on the fly plot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit!

You might also identify each episode as a 'morality play' and you would be right...but...and a BIG BUTT at that...Star Trek started out as all morality plays with liberal themes, it got better with TNG, I love the episode with Picard and the Flute (which sold for $40,000 at auction and it is only a prop, not a real instrument) didja know that?

Anyways....you could say what you said above about any dramatic presentation, but the bedrock of NCIS, admit it or not, is basic human values, honor, integrity and dignity and if you read any contemporary literature or watch Television, you already know that is a rarity.

Thas what fiction is all about, Loring, except that corrupted by the liberal/progressives, the good guys and the bad guys and overcoming obstacles in pursuit of.....?

I always tear up at the funeral scene for Lauren Holly, the Dixieland Wake, with Abby leading the way...that is/was such genius and so filled with emotion, I can only hope some of my stories evoke that....try my 'Harvest Moon' for a buck .99, see if I can drag an emontion out of you, ya ole shit!

smiles

Be well, take heart and I wish you the best Christmas ever...it won't be, of course, those are behind both of us...but you know what I mean...

regards...

Amicus

 

[Loring2]

Hollywood Report

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God! I love this forum...where else can I converse with one of the writers from NCIS!



Hey! My dialogue don't suck either! smiles...

Loring, you da man!

I remembered Linda Hunts name after I posted...didn't bother to go back and fix it.



I thought there was something wrong in the way you typed, 'Cote de Pablo', so I had to look...and yes, I watch her tight little ass as well...



Yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit!

You might also identify each episode as a 'morality play' and you would be right...but...and a BIG BUTT at that...Star Trek started out as all morality plays with liberal themes, it got better with TNG, I love the episode with Picard and the Flute (which sold for $40,000 at auction and it is only a prop, not a real instrument) didja know that?

Anyways....you could say what you said above about any dramatic presentation, but the bedrock of NCIS, admit it or not, is basic human values, honor, integrity and dignity and if you read any contemporary literature or watch Television, you already know that is a rarity.

Thas what fiction is all about, Loring, except that corrupted by the liberal/progressives, the good guys and the bad guys and overcoming obstacles in pursuit of.....?

I always tear up at the funeral scene for Lauren Holly, the Dixieland Wake, with Abby leading the way...that is/was such genius and so filled with emotion, I can only hope some of my stories evoke that....try my 'Harvest Moon' for a buck .99, see if I can drag an emontion out of you, ya ole shit!

smiles

Be well, take heart and I wish you the best Christmas ever...it won't be, of course, those are behind both of us...but you know what I mean...

regards...

Amicus

OK Amicus I concede that we do wind up with plots but you've got to realize that the plot is almost the same for each episode. You said it well yourself. This is crime and punishment; not crime and rehabilitation.

The most successful crime program franchise on TV, "Crime and Punishment, Special Victims" with Mariska Hargitay leading the way has headed in that direction, crime and rehab, that is, long ago . Mariska is one of the most beautiful women on Earth, no matter the age. She's 42 or so and extremely churchy by most reports. I wonder if Stella_Omega would like to meet her.

An aside here: It's estimated by totally biased and completely unreliable people that over one half of the men watching the show are masturbating as they watch Mariska walk... If they're home alone. of course.

She's from 'good stock' too, as they say. Mommy was Jane Mansfield, Daddy was Mickey Hargitay, a body builder. ... Tragic story behind that marriage.

Another aside Ami; This one most interesting in that Sean McGee who plays the nerd on NCIS/Washington is the son of Don Bellaserio. Don of course is the producer of NCIS and JAG and SNIPER and etc. etc. etc.

Would you believe it is I said that he's a fine actor.... no huh.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I'm just glad that they killed off Kate. I never liked her.

I never liked any of the directors either.

Everyone else has been great though.

 

[amicus]

OK Amicus I concede that we do wind up with plots but you've got to realize that the plot is almost the same for each episode. You said it well yourself. This is crime and punishment; not crime and rehabilitation.

The most successful crime program franchise on TV, "Crime and Punishment, Special Victims" with Mariska Hargitay leading the way has headed in that direction, crime and rehab, that is, long ago . Mariska is one of the most beautiful women on Earth, no matter the age. She's 42 or so and extremely churchy by most reports. I wonder if Stella_Omega would like to meet her.

An aside here: It's estimated by totally biased and completely unreliable people that over one half of the men watching the show are masturbating as they watch Mariska walk... If they're home alone. of course.

She's from 'good stock' too, as they say. Mommy was Jane Mansfield, Daddy was Mickey Hargitay, a body builder. ... Tragic story behind that marriage.

Another aside Ami; This one most interesting in that Sean McGee who plays the nerd on NCIS/Washington is the son of Don Bellaserio. Don of course is the producer of NCIS and JAG and SNIPER and etc. etc. etc.

Would you believe it is I said that he's a fine actor.... no huh.[/QUOTE]

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I think all the NCIS team are very fine actors, Loring, although there is again some 'genius' at work in Casting the show...McGee, 'looks' like a geek and DiNozzo 'looks' like a shallow, womanizing playboy. I watch all such shows with a 'writer's eye and ear;, if you will, and the NCIS productions make it easy for one to 'suspend judgment', if that is the proper term, when, knowing they are all on stage and before the cameras, they seems always to be 'in character', is if they were truly the personality they are acting.

I am suprised to learn that 'Crime and Punishment" is a top rated show, after a few attempts to watch it, the Liberal PC vantage point began to gag my sense of whatever the program held as thematic.

I also want to applaud the writers and directors for the continuing threads in NCIS, be it Gibbs reminders of his wife and child, his own covered up crime of assassinating the drug lord that killed his family, and the back story of Gibbs and Franks; they all together develop a 'continuity' to both the stories and the characters...

Thank you also for the background and parentage of Mariska Hargitay, I did not know that Jane Mansfield was her mother.

I have previously applauded Donald Bellesario when I first discovered NCIS and searched for the creator of the show...it came as no surprise as Bellesario seems connected to almost every television series I have ever enjoyed.

Season's Greetings, my friend...be well.

Amicus

 

[Handley_Page]

Abby was the hook; the interplay between DiNozzo and David was next; then the interplay between DiNozzo and all the other characters.

And, of course, I'm so old, I remember David McCallum as Ilya Kuryakin from The Man from U.N.C.L.E.!

Ah Mr Kuriakin; a competent agent with a dry delivery.
I just love the little in-jokes
DiNozo needs his head banging; (good performance there)
Abby is great.
Ziva is Gorgeous.
Lauren Holly looked damned good.
Rocky needs a bit of time to settle in.
McGee is real crafty and a very well-acted role.

I look forward to the new series with keen anticipation. It will happen after various lawyers have thrashed out a suitably remunerative deal, leaving the viewers bored to tears with the wait.

 

[Loring2]

HooRay

I'm just glad that they killed off Kate. I never liked her.

I never liked any of the directors either.

Everyone else has been great though.

I never liked any of the directors either TGP but they do a competent job at a difficult task.

The demise of Caitlan Todd was a good idea because she was a drag and not animated enough for the role. Shana Alexander is a fine actress but not suited for this particular role.

The third eye in the middle of her forehead as applied by a sniper rifle was a bit brutal perhaps but it served the purpose well.

 

[ishtat]

Surprised that Amicus detests the Di Nozzo character because I have always thought of him as very similar to Gibbs but 25 years younger. Behavior in Gibbs which is seen as acceptable is obnoxious in Di Nozzo because he lacks firstly authority and secondly acceptance by his peers. But Di Nozzo knows he is good and so does Gibbs.

It's DiNozzo's tragedy that he is going to end up like Gibbs one day and probably will report to the man or woman that reports to McGhee(sp?).



PS Sean Murray was brought up in country Australia on the north coast of New South Wales and has dual citizenship..

 

[amicus]

]Surprised that Amicus detests the Di Nozzo character because I have always thought of him as very similar to Gibbs but 25 years younger. Behavior in Gibbs which is seen as acceptable is obnoxious in Di Nozzo because he lacks firstly authority and secondly acceptance by his peers. But Di Nozzo knows he is good and so does Gibbs.

It's DiNozzo's tragedy that he is going to end up like Gibbs one day and probably will report to the man or woman that reports to McGhee(sp?).



PS Sean Murray was brought up in country Australia on the north coast of New South Wales and has dual citizenship..[/[/I]QUOTE]

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I didn't hear it in Sean's voice that he was brought up outside the US, I will now have to listen and see if I can pick it out.

Perceptions are strange...I don't see anything of Dinozzo in Gibbs at all. It may well be the age difference, but I perceive them as two entirely different personalities, young and old.

Gibbs and Dinozzo's screen 'fathers' are also totally different, which works for me as I see them as two very different personalities..

Still....love the show...

ah, more weather coming in from the west coast, one via the Pineapple Express in Socal, the other an arctic low just off the coast of Wadh. Ore, which will move into the mountain and midwest in the next two days with boku rain and snow up high and then, if those two systems merge, the east coast could have one helluva problem a few days from now...and then...at it moves across the Atlantic, Og will have to stand on top of his vehicle to shovel snow.

Amicus

 

[Loring2]

Not so Ish ...

Surprised that Amicus detests the Di Nozzo character because I have always thought of him as very similar to Gibbs but 25 years younger. Behavior in Gibbs which is seen as acceptable is obnoxious in Di Nozzo because he lacks firstly authority and secondly acceptance by his peers. But Di Nozzo knows he is good and so does Gibbs.

It's DiNozzo's tragedy that he is going to end up like Gibbs one day and probably will report to the man or woman that reports to McGhee(sp?).



PS Sean Murray was brought up in country Australia on the north coast of New South Wales and has dual citizenship..

This Sean Murray is from somewhere on the East Coast USA; Va.,MD maybe Delaware and his mother is married to Don Belasario, the producer of NCIS.
In other words this Sean Murray is the stepson of the Producer.

His mother works on site as do two of his sisters. All more than competent.

 

[ishtat]

This Sean Murray is from somewhere on the East Coast USA; Va.,MD maybe Delaware and his mother is married to Don Belasario, the producer of NCIS.
In other words this Sean Murray is the stepson of the Producer.

His mother works on site as do two of his sisters. All more than competent.

Noted, but do you know why almost all internet sources say he was born in Bethesda Maryland, child hood in Coffs Harbour NSW before returning to Junior HS in California.