Advice on possible online D/S relationship

[volvin]

I did something 5 days ago that with out defending my self only a asshole will do so lets get that out of the way. i was bored so i decided to log on to World of warcraft which i don't play hardly at all anymore, i entered a PVP Realm (you can kill people you meet) took my character to a place called Tanaris.

I sat around for a bit then spied a Female Human Rogue in town followed them out and killed them, again and again... you get the idea. using a friends account (am honesty very well liked : ) even if am a bit of a ass lol) i made a Lv1 on there faction side to talk to them( for the un-gaming inclined there are two factions that can kill each other at will but we cant talk to each other hence the 2nd account to by pass that rule).

For the sake of my entertainment i told them to either log off and go play something else or play 200 gold pieces and i would leave them alone. we talked back and forth for a bit they asked me to join them on there Vent i thought it would be fun so i joined up, was dragged in to there channel i noticed by the Vents info it belonged to her(at that point i found out if was a her) and she was a Officer in her guild.

Anyway at this point it became a lot more interesting she, Threatened, Pleaded. Begged all the while i maintained a cool head and voice while keeping to my demands i was also recording what she said i wont bore you with the details of this chat since i have already used three paragraphs on trivial gaming details but at some point i got her to say i will suck your cock.

she argued with me for about a hour before giving up and crying on head set. she left the channel to join a one above it which had 10 people in it ( i gussed a ICC raid) i did a Sloppy job on the editing of are chat jumped in to the channel and became a asshole cyber stereotype implying we had a relationship
and i wanted her again i used edited bits of her voice to get the group laughing for about 10mins or so figured it was a job well done and called it that.


3 days latter i get mail from her on my toons asking if she can talk to me i joined her again on vent in a private channel and at first she wanted to have a go at me but her attitude and words just didn't add up, come to find out she was turned on but the group humiliation and wanted more took me hours to figure out that was why she was talking to me but we got there i gave her a few tests she is submissive and heavy in to humiliation which i like.




Ok, Now here are my problems

One, if i start to view her as a submissive (more to the point my submissive) she has more rights then a nameless i used to amuse my self on the internet. and am not sure how that will effect both of us in the long run.

Two. The first Act we did together was one of None content which i hate even in play so am worried she will want play that leans towards fake Consent or worse expect me to randomly do horrible shit to her even if it is hot its different once she becomes a sub

Three and primary i did something pretty mean to her i got no idea how deep in to BDSM she is or what her living situation is so its hard to form a opinion of her as of yet, But once she gets passed her new (i assume there new) Desires is she going to resent me for the way i entered her life.


i find my self confused on how to proceed here a welcome any and all views ( even if you want to call me a ass)

 

[where]

what? you can do bdsm stuff on WoW?

 

[Netzach]

just tell me, everyone -

...Is this going to replace the munch?

 

[CarnageSIS]

what? you can do bdsm stuff on WoW?

You can do anything on WoW

I've personally had some fun with Vent private channels in the middle of raids.

 

[volvin]

just tell me, everyone -

...Is this going to replace the munch?

I seriously doubt it, If you want a Solid example look at second Life the entire game is about living out fantasy's online in group settings (more or less). you can be a vampire. Gor slave or dead body while people rape you ( creepy room that was).

The problem is these people (not all but alot) get sucked in to there own fantasy world and have no grip on reality, Psychical reality anyway.

The only reason WOW works for this or any MMO is that you need to be semi responsible on a daily base's in order to progress. in the case of my may be submissive i humiliated her in front of 10 people she plays with on a daily base's. but its the not the same as say friends on a forum or even second life (where log on to that game would be the point). She has most likely commanded these people in raids lasting 2-6 hours. she has there respect it brings it to a whole other level because she has to work with these people.

 

[volvin]

what? you can do bdsm stuff on WoW?

If a dominant can go to dinner with a bunch of friends but puts all kinds of nasty toys in side his submissive just so he knows she is suffering while every one eats and talks and debates.

take the same setting to a World of warcraft activity, your a healer in a 25man raid on a vent server your scared how your voice might sound since there is a vibrating toy inside you. its the last boss of the night and you just ran in to a corner and died the GM screams at you asking Wtf did you do that for while a masculine voice Laughs deeply in the back round.

Closest thing to real life you can get ( in terms of online)

And for anyone that has played WOW you know raiding as DPS is boring as hell i have to find some ways to amuse my self. but it

PS... i hope i dont sound to nerdy with all this lol

 

[volvin]

This reminds me of a old personal argument why i personal think online dating sites are 80% bullshit clouding down by 20% real people. the reason being it takes no effort what so ever to be a complete ass online

Its why i think fetish games and BDSM dating tools are not as effect as say a Munch because at the first meeting of a munch the people there have already gone out of there way to be real. where online its far to easy to be fake

MMOs like WOW are the exception to the rule namely because you have to invest time and effort to get any where. just looking at another persons in such a setting tells you a great deal about them. this is there hobby they invest time and effort in to the world Via people.. they will have a reputation a standing among there friends just like in RL. you can have 50 guys in a chat room telling everyone there a pathietic little bicth (what ever floats your boat) but if that same person says that in a vent server among his peers the effect is insanely diffrent. not sure if am getting my point across here meh

 

[KoPilot]

This reminds me of a old personal argument why i personal think online dating sites are 80% bullshit clouding down by 20% real people. the reason being it takes no effort what so ever to be a complete ass online

Its why i think fetish games and BDSM dating tools are not as effect as say a Munch because at the first meeting of a munch the people there have already gone out of there way to be real. where online its far to easy to be fake

MMOs like WOW are the exception to the rule namely because you have to invest time and effort to get any where. just looking at another persons in such a setting tells you a great deal about them. this is there hobby they invest time and effort in to the world Via people.. they will have a reputation a standing among there friends just like in RL. you can have 50 guys in a chat room telling everyone there a pathietic little bicth (what ever floats your boat) but if that same person says that in a vent server among his peers the effect is insanely diffrent. not sure if am getting my point across here meh

I had a friend on WoW who pretended to be a girl to get things out of the male players. He kept up the charade for probably 4-5 years, and despite being very popular and well-known on his server, only his best IRL friend knew about his alter-ego.

Tbh, WoW requires just as much honesty as any other means of internet communication: little to none.

 

[midwestyankee]

Is there some kind of rule against using punctuation in this odd virtual world you populate? If so, I suggest that you take on the culture here and start using some.

It's entirely possible that your post was interesting, perhaps even insightful or at least a potential inspiration for good dialog between peers. But I'll never know because there's no way I'm going to make myself edit your work in my head in order to comprehend it.

tl;bg;dnr

 

[volvin]

Is there some kind of rule against using punctuation in this odd virtual world you populate? If so, I suggest that you take on the culture here and start using some.

It's entirely possible that your post was interesting, perhaps even insightful or at least a potential inspiration for good dialog between peers. But I'll never know because there's no way I'm going to make myself edit your work in my head in order to comprehend it.

tl;bg;dnr

then obviously you aren't my intended audience.

 

[volvin]

I had a friend on WoW who pretended to be a girl to get things out of the male players. He kept up the charade for probably 4-5 years, and despite being very popular and well-known on his server, only his best IRL friend knew about his alter-ego.

Tbh, WoW requires just as much honesty as any other means of internet communication: little to none.

That's a old song and dance, also i don't see how he went 4-5 years with out talking on a ventrio service. Also that was not my point at all i was trying to say that because WOW is a multitude of different activity's and people going about different tasks that "IMHO ONLY" if i ask a Zone full of people "hey who likes getting there ass slapped" i feel i have a better chance at connecting with people there then on say ALT.com this is just my view and experience



I think i jacked my own thread i had a couple questions about people not bloody world of warcraft.

 

[Keroin]

then doubtlessly you aren't my intended audience.

"doubtless"

 

[volvin]

error

 

[KoPilot]

That's a old song and dance, also i don't see how he went 4-5 years with out talking on a ventrio service.

He got the aforementioned IRL best friend to do all of his talking for him. He even had a fake myspace set up, with another one of his friends supplying a constant stream of photos for him to use.

Trust me, it was insanely elaborate. He got hundreds of dollars worth of merch and gifts in the mail from the guys he seduced. Not saying it's right, but it does happen.

Gulluck with alla this~

 

[volvin]

He got the aforementioned IRL best friend to do all of his talking for him. He even had a fake myspace set up, with another one of his friends supplying a constant stream of photos for him to use.

Trust me, it was insanely elaborate. He got hundreds of dollars worth of merch and gifts in the mail from the guys he seduced. Not saying it's right, but it does happen.

Gulluck with alla this~

Makes senses, delightfully creepy story too. guess that's why i prefer voice chat if am gonna be used it may as well be mutual.

 

[vintage63]

I played online. Met my Master on SL then met in real life... I love SL even though there are jerks there. There are also amazing people.
Go slow wherever and have a great time.

 

[chy_girl]

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i find my self confused on how to proceed here a welcome any and all views ( even if you want to call me a ass)

Is there some kind of rule against using punctuation in this odd virtual world you populate? If so, I suggest that you take on the culture here and start using some.

It's entirely possible that your post was interesting, perhaps even insightful or at least a potential inspiration for good dialog between peers. But I'll never know because there's no way I'm going to make myself edit your work in my head in order to comprehend it.

tl;bg;dnr

then obviously you aren't my intended audience.

Dude. You're an ass.

And I don't say that based on the original post, because I didn't understand a damned thing out of it either.

Readability - It's the poster's responsibility, not the audience's.

just tell me, everyone -

...Is this going to replace the munch?

I'd like to call red at the mere concept of that, please.

"doubtless"

Keroin, dearest, you always manage to say so, so much while saying so little.

 

[MisterSir]

i find my self confused on how to proceed here a welcome any and all views ( even if you want to call me a ass)

That story is pathetic and sad.

 

[Etoile]

Makes senses, delightfully creepy story too. guess that's why i prefer voice chat if am gonna be used it may as well be mutual.

Then you will miss out on my absolute wonderfulness, because as a deaf person I only use text when chatting online.

 

[volvin]

I agree, though I muscled through your post, so I'm calling you an ass for the very reason you suspected others might.

My opinion is based on the sophomoric antics you spelled out in gramatically horrific detail. Harrasment, extortion, coersion, non-consensual humiliation, not to mention grief play and cross factional exploitation on a PVP server (both against the EULA), and to top it all off you either don't know or don't care to mention this girls age? You could probably be arrested for some of that, let alone permanently banned.

Contrary to what you may think, wow accounts are not annonymous, and when illegal activity is discovered in connection with an account, the GMs have the authority to hand all your account information; billing, e-mail, even IP address, directly to the police.

Some friend you'd turn out to be if you got your buddy into legal trouble with your childish schenanigans on their account. Get your own second account for that crap, or better yet, get a life and let other people enjoy their stupid old game.

Firstr off Vent servers are paid and listed under full names so yes she is "of age" second PVP servers exist so opposite factions can kill each other. I did nothing illegal. She had the power to Ban me at any moment she decided not to. (her vent remember)

Spend a hour in a Collarme.com Chat room move up to a voice chat fool around get your jolly's off. and no one questions it.

IF i threatened her life.. IF i used curse words IF.. i did a number of other things like threaten to blow something up THEN they have to cotact the police

What i did does not fall under that. GMs would punish her not me which is funny (because she cursed up a storm)

 

[volvin]

Then you will miss out on my absolute wonderfulness, because as a deaf person I only use text when chatting online.

Hardly in context he was referring to the practice of using a implied female form to goad over sex adolescences of there gold.

and i meant strictly in the context of World of warcraft many of the higher tier activity's require split second communication voice chat is demanded by 100% of the time by all large group activity's unfair by true


if i offended you i did not mean too sorry

 

[volvin]

I played online. Met my Master on SL then met in real life... I love SL even though there are jerks there. There are also amazing people.
Go slow wherever and have a great time.

My experience with second life consists large of making my character flying around landing on some bizare farm then being enslaved by a "gor" Master and being completely unable to figure out how to break this net thing i was in.

but i did have a more pleasant experience in the more civil rooms lol

 

[volvin]

That story is pathetic and sad.

its sad and pathetic because i seek advice so i don't truly hurt this person?

i freely admit i used them with out any thought or concern for there well being
at that point they were a thing.
I admit it was a ass move but who has not done something they are a little ashamed of.
i came here to ask advice on how to help her but if you prefer to judge thats what a open forum is for 50% of the time


A guess a little more information is warranted after speaking to her at length she has no concept of what BDSM she left her marriage 2 years ago from a controlling guy (go figure). every vibe i get from her confirms a solid submissive.

I have spelled out concepts of trust respect and limits to her i wont even try if i cant have her trust and respect . What i did was a ass move but unlike a cinema a single action does not dictate a characters moral center

 

[catalina_francisco]

Anyone can do anything they want, but personally I don't see much which makes me think this is a start to a wonderful BDSM or D/s relationship. Possibly 2 confused people playing games online, but doesn't feel a good basis. Perhaps if you see yourself as a PYL, you are the one who needs to decide what this is and where it should go.

Catalina

 

[volvin]

Anyone can do anything they want, but personally I don't see much which makes me think this is a start to a wonderful BDSM or D/s relationship. Possibly 2 confused people playing games online, but doesn't feel a good basis. Perhaps if you see yourself as a PYL, you are the one who needs to decide what this is and where it should go.

Catalina

i have been in several RL D/S relationships over the years am not confused at all but i have absolutely no idea how she will respond in the long run thats all this post was meant for.

thanks btw for being the first to post a opinion